posted March 22, 2012 07:43 AM            

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posted March 22, 2012 07:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK--Mars is masculine energy and the moon is feminine energy I think one could say although Venus could be said to be feminine energy but I think the moon would be one's female side

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Moon and Venus are both aspects of your feminine side. Moon in more general, emotional terms, shaping your identity (emotional), while Venus is your feminity as in relation to others, how you express your feminity in relating contexts.
Moon is kind of intrapersonal, Venus is more interpersonal.

And of course Venus tells us about what we find beautiful, lovely, wh at we are attracted to, how we connect to others in relationships, while Moon is deeper.
Venus tells you what you want and are attracted to; moon tells you what you need.
(there was a great articly by Jeff Jawer on this)

posted March 22, 2012 07:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Capricorn is a feminine sign, so it can still work! All the earth & water signs are feminine. But Taurus and Cancer are extra feminine because they are also ruled by feminine planets.

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Sorry, I did not see you had replied to that yet.
And yes on the Taurus and Cancer.

posted March 22, 2012 07:51 AM            

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posted March 22, 2012 07:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am with you, Aquaguy. I appreciate a man thinking I am attractive. I can tell a man No without it being weird as I try to handle any situation so that both people can retain their sense of dignity to the best of my ability.

If a man is interested in me and I am not, I can let him know where he does not feel like a fool. I would want the same respect for my feelings from someone. "Do unto others as you want them to do unto you" is what I try to live by.

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It very much depends on what experiences you make. If the men respect your boundaries after they tell you they find you attractive, you might be very cool with compliments.

if on the other hand someone tells you you are beautiful and then lock you up in his room, until you agree to marry him one day, THEN the "Ice queen" or "scratching and biting"-routine might seem more fitting. (of course the boy was only maybe 6 or 7 years old then. )

But there are serious hurtful experiences one can make and those of course shape the way one reacts in further interaction.

posted March 22, 2012 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
and @regardesplatero,just to clear things up, i am not judging you,i understand why you have the feelings you do, if i was in your shoes i would protect myself to, i was just giving the male perspective on this,and it upsets me that pitiful excuses of men have made you feel this way, but i just want you to know there are lots of good men in the world who dont have bad intentions

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posted March 22, 2012 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you want to put the article up Ceri? I see what you mean about the moon.I have moon trine moon with someone and it is heart to heart--that simple. It is not a "finding beautiful". It is shared hearts. A finding beautiful must be Venus trine Venus for example. Do you agree with all this Ceri?

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I think we may the same thing, though for me I term the Moon- soul to soul, and Venus: heart to heart.
It is simply a different understandting of the words I think.

soul is imo the deepest and most compelling connection. There is no way to get deeper than this, it is like the people are sitting RIGHT IN YOUR CORE.

Heart for me is more that what makes your heart beat faster, open up, that lovely spring like feeling,w hich can lead to something deeper, but doesn´t have to. It is the falling in love scenario, romance, flowers, compliments, admiration etc. -Venus for me.

posted March 22, 2012 08:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It very much depends on what experiences you make. If the men respect your boundaries after they tell you they find you attractive, you might be very cool with compliments.

if on the other hand someone tells you you are beautiful and then lock you up in his room, until you agree to marry him one day, THEN the "Ice queen" or "scratching and biting"-routine might seem more fitting. (of course the boy was only maybe 6 or 7 years old then. )

But there are serious hurtful experiences one can make and those of course shape the way one reacts in further interaction.

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posted March 22, 2012 08:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think we may the same thing, though for me I term the Moon- soul to soul, and Venus: heart to heart.
It is simply a different understandting of the words I think.

soul is imo the deepest and most compelling connection. There is no way to get deeper than this, it is like the people are sitting RIGHT IN YOUR CORE.

Heart for me is more that what makes your heart beat faster, open up, that lovely spring like feeling,w hich can lead to something deeper, but doesn´t have to. It is the falling in love scenario, romance, flowers, compliments, admiration etc. -Venus for me.

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Our words are different Ceri but we mean the same thing!

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posted March 22, 2012 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
and i agree totally, if a guy is a creep than by all means the woman has every right to be creeped out and protect herself,however i dont think it is fair to label every gent who tries to talk to a woman at a coffee shop or bookstore or where ever it may be is a pig who only wants into your pants or wants to harm you. i understand womens concern and think they have every right to be hesitant, if i were a woman i wouldnt be alone with a man until there was a certain amount of trust, i would pay close attention to his actions and what he says and maybe get a background check,and carry pepper spray,these are ways women could protect themselves without writing off an entire gender

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We`re on the same page here.
I just wanted to say that I can understand how different experiences colour different approaches and perspectives on things.
I think if you cumulate on bad experience after the other, it is really hard to NOT become defensive.

Personally my "bad" experiences have been in the normal range (or the other ones are so well suppressed that I do not really know about them anymore), so I tend to be quite balanced most of the times, though I do have a tendency to be a bit cool-detached in order to prevent anything to evolve that I might not be able to stop at a certain point.

BUT a harmless compliment is just that to me, probably an expression of niceness; I can accept it without feeling like I "owe" something.
And for anything else I listen to my intuition. And if I get the feeling that something is "off" about the guy, I get extra icy, and simply disappear.

But that is reserved for the extreme cases. There ARE nice men out there, I have met quite a few of them, and try to stay away from the others.

I have a Moon in Aquarius btw.

posted March 22, 2012 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Our words are different Ceri but we mean the same thing!

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Yes, I thought so.
That is why it usually is so important to elaborate on the meaning for oneself, or misunderstanding could ensue.

posted March 22, 2012 09:40 AM            

I also have BML exactly opposite my Sun.

posted March 22, 2012 09:50 AM              

I think I integrate the masculine and feminine parts of myself well. I enjoy my feminine wiles, curves, etc. but I'm not very "girly" in the sense that I don't go to get my nails done, don't wear jewellery or have earrings, I can be trusted with a credit card (lol) and I'd NEVER spend hundreds of dollars on a single pair of shoes. My one big indulgence from a feminine perspective is my hair. That's also a Leo rising thing, methinks. My mother has accused me more than once of being a tomboy, actually. But tomboys don't refuse to leave the house without at least a minimum of makeup on.

posted March 22, 2012 09:51 AM            

However, I have a negative vision of men, also (Sun and Mars square Saturn). Rationally I understand that my opinion is distorted, but emotionally I simply can't seem to accept the fact that some men can be good *and* suitable for me. I know there are good men out there but they don't catch my attention, somehow I only want to see the bad in men, and tend to dismiss the good.
I think I resent them because they can overpower me, and I don't like being so vulnerable. I don't want to be taken advantage of, and all I can see is how men abuse women emotionally and sometimes even physically, and it makes me sick.
That's why I have a hard time trusting men and I am never intimate with them, in any way, shape or form. I think I secretely fear men and what they can do to me. (My father was abusive towards my mother).

So.. yeah, sounds fun.

posted March 22, 2012 09:53 AM            

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Moon in Libra, Venus in Pisces. I can see acutely how women get stiffed in this society. We have periods, we have to pay more for health care, we get condescended to, we're often viewed as prey, the list goes on. I love my body, but if I had to choose, I'd choose to be male. That said, I don't think I'm a man trapped in a woman's body, I just don't mesh well with the ideal view of womanhood. Like, having children would be fun, but I don't ever want to be pregnant. I'm not domestic in the slightest. I'd rather spend my time philosophizing than cleaning up after people.

I also have BML exactly opposite my Sun.

(Sun in Aqua, Mars in Sag)

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posted March 22, 2012 10:05 AM            

At class we once had a sexuality test. I ranked highest on both masculinity and femininity amongst the girls.

The conflict between the extreme masculine and extreme feminine can make me very fluid in my love style, but can be quite awkward when I shift from one role to another.

I do not have harmonious relationship with women -- mostly I have male friends.

posted March 22, 2012 10:09 AM            

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lol being a man aint all its cracked up to be,as a matter of fact,there is a very good book about this,this woman who is a lesbian who wants to experience life as a man so she dresses and lives life as a man for a year,afterwards she said she was greatful to be a woman, its called self made man by norah vincent ,its a very fascinating read

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posted March 22, 2012 10:10 AM            

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My Moon is afflicted and I've never been really comfortable being a woman. I don't feel feminine at all, I feel like I simply don't fit. I find myself quite masculine and I used to fantasize about being a man, because I honestly think it's easier to be a man. My Moon squares Mars and Pluto, and opposes Saturn.

However, I have a negative vision of men, also (Sun and Mars square Saturn). Rationally I understand that my opinion is distorted, but emotionally I simply can't seem to accept the fact that some men can be good *and* suitable for me. I know there are good men out there but they don't catch my attention, somehow I only want to see the bad in men, and tend to dismiss the good.
I think I resent them because they can overpower me, and I don't like being so vulnerable. I don't want to be taken advantage of, and all I can see is how men abuse women emotionally and sometimes even physically, and it makes me sick.
That's why I have a hard time trusting men and I am never intimate with them, in any way, shape or form. I think I secretely fear men and what they can do to me. (My father was abusive towards my mother).

So.. yeah, sounds fun.

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posted March 22, 2012 10:12 AM            

However, my Sun has ALL positive aspects so maybe that is why I like men more than woman. I have a very very very hard time trusting woman.

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posted March 22, 2012 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
To add another wrinkle. I have all good aspects to my Sun(father). I have the "unaspected moon" I have discussed on here.It has an 8 deg conjunction with the Sun, a 9 degree conj with Mars and a 8 degree trine with Saturn.

However, my Sun has ALL positive aspects so maybe that is why I like men more than woman. I have a very very very hard time trusting woman.

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