posted March 26, 2012 12:14 PM            

I do not see why you find Saggi's comments offensive. Before you react violently, perhaps you can open your mind a little more to what I am saying.

I honestly do not know how this feud between you people have started, so pardon me if I seem ignorant. But based on what I see, I think Saggi is doing everyone a favor by being honest with his views. Not everyone is a Libra and prefers decorum and mild manners above else. In fact, this kind of system can be even disastrous sometimes, especially when ill feelings or hurts are forced to be kept inside. How can we truly understand astrology if the natures of each person are forced into this somewhat-Libran system?

I personally prefer, as an Aries, that I be told straight to my face what people think of me, without censorship. If I find the person offensive and am hurt, then we will argue it out until we reach a conclusion.

I do understand the need to ban obscene language or offensive words -- but I honestly do not think that Saggi has been obscene or offensive. In fact, he has only been incredibly honest.

To declare that honesty should be banned is like favoring a particular energy over another -- say, 7th house or 12th house energy (no offense to these folks, just citing).

What is wrong with "incestuous"? If you have any inkling at all of what 8th housers are like, "incestuous" is mild in comparison. As one example, 8th housers can keep talking about torture, death, pain, and abuse at length -- are you going to be "offended" by that as well? What if Arians or first housers start a topic about the thoughts that they keep whenever they are angry -- and mind you, these thoughts can be violent -- are they to be censored too?

Shall our study be confined to the prison of "decorum, proper manners, and politeness?"

What is wrong with people fighting here every now and then? No one is saying "**** you, die in hell" *excuse me* or anything to that magnitude. People are just being honest with their views. In fact, the wonder is that these conflicts can even give us more insight into astrology itself. We will have Geminis argue against Sagittarians, or Cancers against Librans, and all that. These interactions would provide great insight into the workings of the nature of each.

Isn't the main lesson of Astrology that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. NOT EVERYONE WOULD GET ALONG.

Why are we hindering this law?

If there are any Libra moons whose balance is offended by such honest talk, then sure, they should be free to declare so, with all the gusto they can muster if need be. But why must the more blunt or honest or angry of the signs suffer censorship (Actually, it's not censorship at all, because as I notice they are still holding back a lot -- it is mild in comparison) and withhold their entire natures?

Wasn't it Linda Goodman herself who declared, "Be true to your Sun sign, or else lose the birthright the Universe has given to you."

How can we be true to our selves if we are forced into this system? Can you talk about the murderous rage of a betrayed Scorpio by being "nice and mild mannered"? Or, say, what if there are those with some awkwardly planets who DO desire incest, necrophilia, bestiality? Are we to censor those people as well? Where will they belong, then?

Is this to be some kind of watered-down astrology friendship site?

This is not astrology, folks. There are things about astrology that cannot be explored without being "sensitive" and "violent" or whatever it's called.

I say, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Quite simple. But don't wreck the opportunities of those who like the heat. Some of us are BORN to love the heat.

I think Linda, if she was still alive, being an Aries, would say a very similar thing.

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posted March 26, 2012 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Nope, not this site. There is a way to be honest and still respectful of others. If a person is "less cooperative" as you put it, they won't last long here. Why should a few trouble makers ruin things for everyone else? That's not watered down Astrology--it's just making excuses for bad behavior. So, no, the rules will not be modified for the two or three people a year who cannot play well with others.

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I agree.

Thank you Randall and Ami for your patience and efforts to keep it peaceful here.

Feeling safe is very important if we want to share our experiences/observations without being judged.

posted March 26, 2012 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I agree.

Thank you Randall and Ami for your patience and efforts to keep it peaceful here.

Feeling safe is very important if we want to share our experiences/observations without being judged.

It truly is a community, not just a public place to vent one's anger on other people.

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So well said, Doux! You have such a peaceful way about you

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posted March 26, 2012 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

Feeling safe is very important if we want to share our experiences/observations without being judged.

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posted December 01, 2016 12:02 PM            

One of my exes said I was clingy when he rarely spoke to me at all. Now I get complaints from my current boyfriend about not being attentive enough.

Anyway, we all knows how toxic Tumblr is. However, in my case, it caused me to become aware of how problematic some of my early beliefs were and I finally realized that I was behaving like women can't want to be feminine on their own. Additionally, by treating women as if they can't possess feminine qualities and still be valid as women, I was pretty much just as bad as any man I could criticize for treating women poorly.

I've learned to respect women for being women instead of being angry at feminine qualities. As a result, I'm more in touch with my feminine side and I'm a lot more accepting of women that happen to be more feminine.

The only downside is I'm more angry that feminine qualities aren't as valued in men. Men that are more feminine are considered weaker and less "masculine," which kind of bothers me a bit. I'm more attracted to men with feminine qualities.

Contrary to how all this may sound, I actually love being a woman. It just feels right, and no, I don't feel like women got the short end of the stick. I'm comfortable with my body. Personality-wise, I'm equally masculine and feminine. Sometimes I may come across as more masculine, but I think that has more to do with cultural expectations.

Unfortunately, I do have a few issues with my emotions. It's just because my emotional side hasn't always been as strong as it is now. When I was much younger, my emotional side was less active and I was less sensitive. I think I was born with a developmental disorder that affected how emotional I was as a kid. This isn't to say I didn't have feelings. I just wasn't as emotionally expressive until much recently. I'm having to adjust to having stronger emotions, and as a Gemini Moon, I definitely tend to lean toward thinking rather than feeling. Probably not a good thing, but I'm working on this.

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posted December 02, 2016 12:34 AM            

Although, I wouldn't consider myself a girly girl or a tomboy. I love feeling feminine, but I need some kind of an edge (probably due to my Aries Ascendant). I never wear a lot of makeup and I hate wearing dresses and heels (I have an athletic build so I look weird in them and I've never actually worn any heels higher than 2 inches).

posted December 03, 2016 11:22 AM            

My theory is that, having Moon conjunct Mars (as I have) might make someone more androgynous, and when I say that, I mean someone who doesn't feel like having predominantly male or female energy. It's not that I am not expressing these energies, is just that I don't feel that I can say I'm feminine or I'm masculine.

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Originally posted by leo_moon:
I always wanted to be born male. Leo is the Sun. Solar energy is masculine. I idolized male figures. I think I would've been better as a male. My dad's moon is Cancer. He's a sensitive man, a nurturing parent. I asked him if he was homosexual. He always seemed effeminate to me. Water moons are feminine to me regardless of gender.

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This is super interesting to me. The chart would show why and I would love to really understand. There are asteroids for gender, per se.I got interested in this subject because my mother always wanted to be a guy lol
She was not feminine. She was a fix it upper kind of woman. She could fix anything in the house. My father was more like a woman lol
I, on the other hand, loved being feminine, I loved everything about being female and I still do.I wonder if it is mainly the Moon that is in charge of this. Leo is a masculine Moon.

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posted December 05, 2016 07:30 AM            

how the degrees fit in.

because i'm a cap moon in the 8th house so you'd think i'd be all stoic and gloom with the whole cap and scorpio thing but at the same time my cap moon is at 2 degrees and i find that the sagittarius moon description suits me quite a bit

and they say that the moon in the chart of the female shows up more than the sun and i usually get people saying i'm either a sagittarius or a cancer

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posted December 10, 2016 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
interesting that you should post this because i have noticed women with masculine moons have a resentment towards men, however i am not trying to say that includes all masculine moon women, just most of the ones i have observed.

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I too noticed men with masculine moons tend to create more female friendships and get along with females better.

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