posted March 22, 2012 11:24 AM              

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Originally posted by Charlotte_E:

I do not have harmonious relationship with women -- mostly I have male friends.

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posted March 22, 2012 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
hard to say,both genders have their pros and cons equally. though as a man i have envied womens power over us,and how ya'll are the ones who whether you want to admit or not have all the power in relationships,we as guys have to prove ourselves and jump through hoops to win your affections,we have to cross the room and face rejection, i think this an area women can say think god i am a woman.

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I feel this way, totally. I think it is the passive Cancer moon, mostly unaspected so no hard aspects like Saturn which makes it uptight. I think this kind of moon likes being a woman and having the man come after her

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posted March 22, 2012 01:00 PM            

Much recognition in feeling with the words of RegardesPlatero on the first page of this thread.

posted March 22, 2012 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
While I certainly do have issues with that weird concept of having a body and physicality (though a very intriguing and fascinating concept nevertheless), I feel "right" as a woman, even though I donīt do the girly stuff and am probably different than most women in what I do or don`t do, but it still just feels "right".

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I tend to be the same way. I do some of the girly stuff, occasionally. I like taking care of my skin, my hair, exercising, etc, for myself - although I tend to forget, and keep forgetting to moisturize lately (not a good age to be forgetting that :/ ). When it's expected of me, just because I'm a woman.. nah, I don't go along with that.

I also don't obsess over most men. I occasionally flip, or have felt very lonely at times, but unless certain things just really changed me as a kid, I've never remembered being programmed to go out and meet boys/men. For the most part, I could take them or leave them, although they can make nice friends. My mother admitted that she was impressed that I could just be friends with a guy.

posted March 22, 2012 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I have a capricorn moon, and I am okay being a woman, I don't honestly value one gender more than the others, or think that men or women have it easier than the other... I'm glad to be a woman though. I love taking care of children, cooking, listening to people's probles and help them out with it or just be there for them. At least that's what I love about being a woman, I love how women can be sensitive, caring being and are not afraid to show it. But then again that might just be my cancer ascendant talking. However I've never felt at ease with being a "sexy" woman. I do not care much about being the most beautiful using things such as make up and such.. but other aspects might explain this.
Funny enough, my mom is a moon in leo, and she is always saying how she should have been a man. She sometimes even considered herself a she male, some sort of super powered being who can be both a man and a woman. she doesn't neglect her feminity apparence wise but she does sort f shut it down emotionnally, and kind of hates being a woman in the society nowadays.

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posted March 22, 2012 02:25 PM            

my moon sign is Sagittarius square Saturn
and conjuct Jupiter (other little aspects )

posted March 22, 2012 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I feel the same way! My Moon - as you know is in Cappy in the 7th house.

The problem is - Do you know what some 'good samaritan' will come in and tell you now?
They will tell you that you are brainwashed by this patriarchial society and you THINK that you are not being harassed and oppressed because that is what "they" (read: the men of the world) want you to think.. and it is all a big misogynistic conspiracy.

Oh Brother.. Don't get me started.

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posted March 22, 2012 07:43 PM            

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This probably a bit off topic.... but.......

I think most girls (or at least the ones who have gone on to higher education) go through a phase in their lives - when they read feminist writings, journal articles, books etc. I think this is very normal and very common. I did a gender studies subject at one point and went through this phase as well.

But later in life, in my experience - you also go through a phase where you begin to have a mind of your own and criticise all the things you read.. or at least -assess- them analytically - rather then simply accept what you are reading as though you are being spoon-fed the information.

The truth is there are radical views in all areas.. as well as feminism. Just like there are radical religious fundamentalists. There are also radical feminists out there. There's a saying in a different language that "not everything sold at the market - is edible".. and the point of the saying is that - basically you can't consume everything you see.. You have to figure out whether it is actually *edible* first. I think this also applies to the things we read.

One thing that bothers me is when a person (male or female) reads a paper on a particular topic, whether it is gender-related or something entirely different - historical or astrological... whatever! (The topic is besides the point!) -- and after having read the paper.. they somehow immediately acquire the view that "WOWWWW I am now enlightened!! This paper is so true... It is 100% true.. It's explains *everything*!!!!".

posted March 22, 2012 08:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have been thinking about how a woman feels about being a female. I have Moon in Cancer, its domicile, and I have always been very comfortable in the female body. I have thought about this, at times, when I would see woman who expressed wanting to be men or thinking that men got the better deal in life. I have always loved being a woman. I think it is because the moon is how one relates to being female.

I have Mars in Cancer, in the Fall. I have a very hard time with aggression and anger. I attribute this to the Fall position. I say this only to say that I wonder if a woman's comfort level with her gender and female self is related to her moon sign( and aspects too)

Thanks for your help.Please add details, if you care to, so I can feel out your Moon position. One only has one's own placement to draw from unless one gets experiences from others.

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posted March 22, 2012 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I have a Cancer Moon too but I don't feel very feminine at all. I don't feel uncomfotable but I'm a bit awkward at times. I never wanted to be a man or anyone else for that matter. But I also don't feel womanly. I always feel I must be strong...I don't cry in front of others if I can avoid it and I don't want anyone to know my weaknesses. Not even my mother or best friends.

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Does your Moon touch Saturn SH?

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posted March 22, 2012 08:04 PM            

What does that mean?

posted March 22, 2012 08:14 PM            

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Does your Moon touch Saturn SH?

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posted March 22, 2012 08:32 PM            

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posted March 22, 2012 08:33 PM            

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Yes, it is in opposition.
I also have Chiron conjunct.

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That is the reason. Chiron is a huge Ouch.

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posted March 22, 2012 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
I'd like to be a guy! If I could have some magic lamp i'd wish for that. Well i'd wish that i could change my sex at will whenever i wanted so i could be both in case i didn't like one over the other sometimes. I feel like i'd be so much better if i were a guy. I want people to take me seriously! I want to make the moves. I don't like having periods its an inconvenience! I think about this quite a bit when im in a bad mood (being a guy). I like guys they are easier to talk to about random stuff. Girls make faces at what i like or don't understand me. Even if guys don't understand me i can get away with it easier cos i am a girl though. hm... I want to be friends with girls but i hardly meet any who are compatible
scorpio moon feminine and my sun is feminine too. Oh but i don't feel comfortable with being a 'woman' sometimes. Mostly i feel awkward. I think its just me and not anything to do with my moon and planets though.

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What are your placements. Do you have Mars sq venus?

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posted March 22, 2012 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That is the reason. Chiron is a huge Ouch.

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posted March 22, 2012 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Yes, it isn't the most comfortable aspect.
What is funny though is that everytime I look in a mirror I am shocked at how feminine I look. It's the Venus conj Asc. I don't feel it but it looks womanly. So I have no idea if I might be percieved as feminine by others.

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Yes Chiron is a very weird planet.It has a strange orbit which may account for it. IT just does all sorts of strange things. Watch it in synastry and you will see SH.

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posted March 22, 2012 09:13 PM            

As for relationship power, I'm not sure how that plays out but my attitude is don't talk to me if you don't want to. It's perfectly alright.

I'm not sure I ever felt pressured to approach women when I was single. My attitude was that they either liked me or they didn't. I wasn't going to change anyone's mind. Plus I was fortunate that I had a steady flow of interest in my direction. Oh well.