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vickymadness
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posted March 29, 2012 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting thread

*Roles
Mars in Gemini 5th
Saturn in Aqua 12th

*Ritual
Moon in Gemini 4th
Venus in taurus 3rd

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RedScorp
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posted March 30, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanna know how I did.

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tautomer4314
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posted March 30, 2012 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I don't follow you around stalking your posts so my assessment may not be correct, but this response is one of the more vulnerable I have seen. I am acclimated to the mentally-oriented styles of tautomer, and admit to pleasant surprise when you discuss you Cancer Mars. I think both your assessments sound very accurate and can relate a bit with my own chart. My Cancer Jupiter and Capricorn Mercury directly oppose in the 3rd and 9th houses. I find frequent struggle involving the things I think/observe and the things I feel/resonate with, as they apply to my greater evolution. Though the planets are different the flavor of the struggle seems similar to me.

Where Capricorn is determined to gain command of its role, Cancer seeks direction. Where Cancer wants immerse their self in care for their loved one, Capricorn will not respect a person who is incapable if self sufficiency. Good luck on your path for finding a good partner. I agree that being gay can feel like a disadvantage when seeking meaningful relationships (especially of the Tauran variety). If I may, I would add that (contrary to popular belief) love relationships generally require a few scrapes, and failure tends to be invaluable for sculpting one's capacity for attracting the "right" partner. What we desire and what ends up being the best partner can turn out very different. I had always been attracted to Aquarians and idealized the energy in others, until I dated Aquarians with heavy water influences. It helped me realize my reasons for liking Aquarius, was based on an assumption that I could remain emotionally unavailable and we could still pretend, without all the hurt feelings. After two long-term attempts failed, exceedingly charming and apparently unemotional Aquarians stopped being attractive to me.

As you stated, you have a lot of opportunity ahead of you at 22. I'm positive you will figure it all out.

PS: I have experienced your fantasy and it is pretty amazing. Try it sober first though, sex on brain candy can be a lot like eating while frying. It starts out as a good idea, but an hour later your hands feel grimy, distraction has abandoned you to the back yard, and something sticky has made its home in your hair. Though a bit glamorous sounding it has potential for yuck. There is nothing more odd than two fry-babies trying to figure out what goes where while their partner's head keeps melting into the couch. LOL



I'm not all mental logic. I often come across that way because I see so much utility to it. The major reason though is it minimizes error (something I strive for in everything that I do). I am actually quite an emotional and sensitive person, I just don't readily let it out. I can not control what I feel, but I can control how I express it.

You definitely are very right here. The idea of needing a few bumps to forge a strong relationship is not unknown to me. It's tricky because I try so (too) hard to remove any and all bumps when I meet someone, and I wonder if thats why things always flatline in that regard. I don't know what sign I need. It's to the point where I am just going to let it happen. Although, I would prefer it if I don't get stuck with a virgo moon or mercury, lol. They seem to love me, but I often don't share the sentiment. Try as toast at some point. Even then, we shall see how it goes.

Heh, I do know first hand that drug experiences never turn out as you imagine in your minds eye. I have mars opposing neptune exact, so drugs are in many ways completely off limits to me. I react to them poorly in one way or another. I wish it weren't that way but it's how it is.

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Xiiro
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posted April 26, 2012 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
F!ckit, I'll go with Whole Signs.

[b]Roles // Leo Mars H12 + Pisces Saturn H7

I really want to actively have fun and to covertly, playfully dominate through personal dissociation and intrapersonal understanding. Alas, I must act within the confines of blurred boundaries and limits through intimate relating in order to achieve what I want.

Rituals // Scorpio Venus H3 + Capricorn Moon H5

I really appreciate control and self-change in communication and sensations, but in order for me to accept someone into my comfort zone, they must detachedly understand to ease insecurities and help construct in spheres of creativity and physical affection.

Xii-ii-iiro, how did I do? Is there something you'd add? TAKE AWAY?[/B]



Sorry for the delayed response Scorpy. I have been in Hawaii since I wrote this topic and made little effort to get to a computer while I was there.

Let's see...

Roles // Leo Mars H12 + Pisces Saturn H7

I really want to actively have fun and to covertly, playfully dominate through personal dissociation and intrapersonal understanding. Alas, I must act within the confines of blurred boundaries and limits through intimate relating in order to achieve what I want.

I think this is a good description. This kind of Role would certainly utilize the lighter aspects of Leo Mars to thin out some of that thick Piscean energy. But the fixed nature of this Mars could also lend an energy of seriousness when Mars is challenged. Ultimately the energy of Pisces dominates in this Role, and the Leonine Mars may only get to truly play, when it feels safe. Otherwise, the play is merely strategy for exploring others in your environment. In that case I would also describe this role as "I want to master the deep parts of my self through introspection. I do that by skillfully dissolving boundaries in others and exploring what I uncover".

Rituals // Scorpio Venus H3 + Capricorn Moon H5

I really appreciate control and self-change in communication and sensations, but in order for me to accept someone into my comfort zone, they must detachedly understand to ease insecurities and help construct in spheres of creativity and physical affection.

I like this one too. Scorpio Venus in the 3rd would certainly be about transformation through our close communications and interactions. I appreciate how you described Capricorn Moon as "detachedly understanding". To reign it all in, I would add "I appreciate the idea of two people leaving deep and lasting impressions on each other through close communication, but in order for me to accept someone into my comfort zone, they must be reserved and methodical in how they are playful with me.

With this role and ritual, a lot of energy is spent looking at the self and making it acceptable for others. There is a deep desire to connect with others in a deep and playful way, but that connection will not happen gracefully if a person makes no effort to understand your quirks as deeply as you understand theirs. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't consider a PHD in Redscorpology a prerequisite for being your friend, you can be very lenient in the amount of abuse you can take from others. What makes a person special to you is them showing they are capable of knowing how to play with you, how to read your moods, and knowing what play is acceptable and what crosses the line. A friend proves they love you by showing they have made an equal effort to pay attention and be a friend. The same would go for sex. You have the capacity to rock someone's world, but are a bit of a sexual Goldilocks. If a person comes on too strong, they may overwhelm you and the whole situation could become a panic response of trying to make the other person happy. If a person comes on too weak, you may not think they are into you at all and overlook the situation altogether, or you may even lack interest, considering them a weak prospect. You need someone who will play with you in that "just right zone". Not too hot, and not too cold. =)

How's that?

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posted April 26, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Sorry for the delayed response Scorpy. I have been in Hawaii since I wrote this topic and made little effort to get to a computer while I was there.

Omg what wow! Hawaii! I was just planning on messaging you on FB when I got home, but I suppose that's not necessary now! Anyways, when I'll reply when I get off.

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posted April 26, 2012 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gemisagscorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow this is a really cool thread..

I have saturn conjunct mars in scorpio 11th house

and moon in scorpio 12th house
venus in gemini 7th house

I have always had a very complexed sex and love life

I seduce with my gemni venus, and the guy get shocked about how intense I am sexually

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FireMoon
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posted April 26, 2012 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting thread!

Roles
Mars: Taurus 11th house
Saturn: Capricorn 7th house

Rituals
Moon: Sagittarius 5th house
Venus: Aqua 8th house

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sweet-scorpion
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posted April 26, 2012 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a great concept! I really like it.

What do you think about mine? I'd love to hear your input if you have the time! What was tripping me up a little was how my H3 Saturn in Pisces plays into everything... does that make me a moody head case of a lover? 8'P

Role:

H3 Saturn in Pisces with H8 Mars in Cancer.

Rituals:

H9 Moon in Virgo with H11 Venus in Scorpio.

(I'd also like to mention that my Mars is pretty afflicted. It only makes a few positive aspects and it's a definite trouble maker, so I don't know how that plays into it... but I'm sure it makes the 8H energies even more intense.)

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posted April 26, 2012 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Omg what wow! Hawaii! I was just planning on messaging you on FB when I got home, but I suppose that's not necessary now! Anyways, when I'll reply when I get off.

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I am looking to buy a piece of rain forest there and live among the trees like a damned monkey.

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posted April 26, 2012 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
...Otherwise, the play is merely strategy for exploring others in your environment. In that case I would also describe this role as "I want to master the deep parts of my self through introspection. I do that by skillfully dissolving boundaries in others and exploring what I uncover"...

Yes yes omg that really resonated with me.

quote:
"I appreciate the idea of two people leaving deep and lasting impressions on each other through close communication, but in order for me to accept someone into my comfort zone, they must be reserved and methodical in how they are playful with me."

Getting too close or too deep kinda...scares me sometimes (retrograde Venus?). I feel like once you get too close/deep with someone, you might not be able to go back. Kinda like...I want to be able to flee if needed. Me = scared, ahahaha,

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Desiring Shadows
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posted April 26, 2012 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can ya checking out

Role: Mars in Scorpio in the 6th and Saturn in Pisces in the 10th.

Ritual: Moon in Sagittarius in 7th and Venus in Libra in the 5th.


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