posted April 03, 2012 11:10 PM            

NN SATURN:
Seems like conjunctions here are a push and pull nad is quite difficult to get teh r/s off the ground. The trines and squares/ oppositions are here oddly very helpful and bind people to a committed r/s.

NN PLUTO: This generally means the NN person is being shaped by the Pluto person.

NN VENUS: Shows the attraction, level of comfort. (I think it would be more of a NN and moon thing though.)

NN to NN: This propels you together. It's a more futuristic need or desire.

NN to SN: Hmmm dunno confused.

NN MARS: The mars person teaches you to harness your powers on helps you concentrate it. They help you spring ot action.

***Tell me if I'm wrong; I'm still learning. And I'm making these up as I go...

FOR THIS THREAD LET'S IGNORE THE SN. WE CAN MAKE A SEPERATE THREAD FOR THAT. OK?

posted April 04, 2012 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I thought the planet person "teaches" something to the NN person? Like with Venus, the NN person is attracted to them because they have what they "need", kind of.

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posted April 04, 2012 06:03 AM            

I have noticed that the NN person is *usually* the one who's more attracted, but not always.

What do the squares to the Nodal axis represent in synastry? I imagine they are difficult but how do they play out?

posted April 04, 2012 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I see, thanks.

I have noticed that the NN person is *usually* the one who's more attracted, but not always.

What do the squares to the Nodal axis represent in synastry? I imagine they are difficult but how do they play out?

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Squares means short living karma or no karma at all. The most important aspect is the conjunctions. Usually, squares have a less impact than conjuntions. Thats why people who have SN hitting our personal planets come in to our lives to make us to pay the debt we have with them those people with NN hitting our personal planets come to make us learn and to learn together with us what we refused to learn in our previous lives. Its not the person that counts in NN-SN contacts but the lesson we must learn.
Lets say we have a Moon-SN connection. In our previous life, we made our CHILD or MOTHER suffer very badly. Maybe we didnt show her our affection or simply we didnt care about her at all. The same thing goes with NN. If we refuse to learn our karmic lesson we're gonna reincarnate again and again until the lesson is learned.

posted April 04, 2012 09:42 AM            

Starry, I don't know what it means but it's probably karmic.

posted April 04, 2012 09:52 AM            

So...I was convinced that this certain fellow was my soul mate. His moon was close to my south node in Taurus.

Do you think this alone suggests anything about karmic lessons?

I had to cut him off eventually, because he was driving me crazy, but apparently this hurt him very badly. I wonder if I have incurred bad karma from how I handled it, OR if I have had to learn that sometimes romantic feelings have to be sacrificed to attain a higher good.

posted April 04, 2012 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Squares means short living karma or no karma at all. The most important aspect is the conjunctions. Usually, squares have a less impact than conjuntions. Thats why people who have SN hitting our personal planets come in to our lives to make us to pay the debt we have with them those people with NN hitting our personal planets come to make us learn and to learn together with us what we refused to learn in our previous lives. Its not the person that counts in NN-SN contacts but the lesson we must learn.
Lets say we have a Moon-SN connection. In our previous life, we made our CHILD or MOTHER suffer very badly. Maybe we didnt show her our affection or simply we didnt care about her at all. The same thing goes with NN. If we refuse to learn our karmic lesson we're gonna reincarnate again and again until the lesson is learned.

One of the reasons we cannot remember our previous lives its because we cannot avoid learning these lessons. Through mistakes, through good action, wise judgement or simply through a better attitude toward us and others we can say that lessons has been well learned.

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posted April 04, 2012 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Rosalind,

So...I was convinced that this certain fellow was my soul mate. His moon was close to my south node in Taurus.

Do you think this alone suggests anything about karmic lessons?

I had to cut him off eventually, because he was driving me crazy, but apparently this hurt him very badly. I wonder if I have incurred bad karma from how I handled it, OR if I have had to learn that sometimes romantic feelings have to be sacrificed to attain a higher good.

Any thoughts?

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posted April 04, 2012 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
What about chiron conjunct SN natally?

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posted April 04, 2012 01:48 PM            

"Venus conjunct, sextile, or trine other person's North Node

This pairing is a strong indication of a binding tie between you. You are likely to find it easy to cooperate with one another, perhaps even combining your talents successfully. A major focus of this relationship is romantic love, and in all likelihood the feelings for one another were instant. There is a true feeling of enjoyment and pleasure with one another. "

http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/aef86533-7d73-4ff1-ac76-c9200987d824

I did have an exact Venus - North Node conjunction with my Mother in my 6th house. It would have been in her 7th. Mum certainly had a powerful affect on me. But that was a Paternal relationship. I always knew if I was in trouble over something that I could turn to her.

North Node Aspects to Venus in Synastry:

“This would mean the Venus person pulls the North Node person towards their destiny, a higher-expression of themselves. But what does the Venus person get out of all this? It seems like it's all for the benefit of the North Node person. "

My good friend has his NN sextile my Venus and he's always saying how I am making him feel better about himself. His moon is also conjunct my Venus and Mars, however. ::shrugs::
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212422.html
http://darkstarastrology.com/best-synastry-aspects/

North Node Synastry Aspects

The North Node in synastry is hugely important because it shows where our soul needs to go to evolve. It is very sweet to see this feature in synastry between a couple, because it shows they are helping each other down the same spiritual path. The North Node conjunct Vertex is one of the top indicators for marriage. Other than the Vertex, then the Luminaries, Ascendant, Venus or Mars conjunct the North Node are going to be a winner as your relationship will be in line with your souls development. A square to the Nodes will be far more challenging and more likely to be a karmic contract type relationship where there is some excess baggage that is blocking you both and needs resolving once and for all.

posted April 04, 2012 02:00 PM            

I'm wondering if the Mars person would act as a trigger for the NN person though, if they'd be able to somehow stimulate the flow of spiritual energy and direct them positively.

It's the strongest link to the NN (yeah it seems weird but it beats venus, sun, moon).
It's the one that makes someone work for its better development.

It's rather unbreakable.

My mother's mars conjuncts my north node.

source:http://www.artcharts.com/catalog/samples/solar_synastry_ford.html

I'm curious about this aspect too, so I just Googled it and there was a synastry report for Calista Flockhart and Harrison Ford that says the following:

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Calista's Mars is Conjunct Harrison's North Node (Orb 3°43')
This combination of the planet Mars and the North Node indicates a fiery and fated relationship. This association makes a strong impact on both Calista and Harrison whether they are lovers or enemies. It is also possible that Calista and Harrison are involved in a dramatic or energetic project together. Whatever the path of this relationship, it is destined to change the course of their lives, in particular that of Harrison. Passion and an intense desire to relate may be central to this relationship. However, it is also possible that arguments and violence are at the core of this association. The challenge for both Calista and Harrison is to keep this association lively and positive so that fate can play its hand for the best possible outcome. In fact Harrison may benefit directly through the role that Calista plays in his life.

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What you said about development is ironic because I actually feel I had a strong impact on her since the early stages of interaction (I'm the Mars person.) She seems to be receptive to me and I noticed she changed significantly since we started communicating, I can practically see some of her facets developing and blooming. It's like the potential has always been there, but it needed to be nurtured.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090626015330AAv5zi8

posted April 04, 2012 02:01 PM            

They are supposed to represent "fated" encounters over which you have little control

Well, I would say that perhaps in a past life (if you can humour me for a minute ) you two probably had a love (affair) together

posted April 04, 2012 02:02 PM            

Saturn conjunct the Nodes can be a separative aspect. I am not as yet certain of exactly why this is the case, but I have seen it time and time again where Saturn conjunct the North or South Node in a composite chart or in synastry is present in romantic relationships that don't get off the ground properly.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/209057.html

Saturn on the NN: Saturn is about limitations, it is also about lessons to be learned, the great teacher! when I see saturn aspects or transits, I know that there are lessons to be learned, alot of times, hard lessons that have to do with restrictions. Like when it traveled through my 2nd house last summer, it was trying to teach me that I really misused alot of my resources, aka money. Once I realized how I was doing that, the pressure from saturn lessened greatly, and it has been an ally instead of an enemy. Saturn provides or can provide structure as well as limitations..So on the NN in synastry, it could play out that relationship would provide karmic lessons and structure to those in the relationships lives.. great lessons to be learned, and very likely hard at first...

Now Café Astrology state this aspect indicates relationships that just don’t get off the ground and my own experience would agree. We loved each other dearly, held similar values and goals yet we were the poster kids for Pursuer/Distancer relationships, and we did it for eight years.

I read the same comments in cafe astrology but then heard of people who has been married and have this aspect. it seems that there are lessons to learn, hard ones, but frankly, i wish i could see better.
I am the saturn person and have the impression that the NN person may avoid you even if interested because he/she suspect is going to be a hard journey. thay may explain the pull and push you describe.

My Saturn conjunct His North Node &
His Saturn sextile My North Node

I don't know the full meaning of these contacts yet, however we were very supportive of one another and the friendship really felt solid on many levels. I said were because we tended to be very drawn to one another and there was a lot of love between us as friends and at many times he would take steps forward to me to initiate an even deeper bond and when I responded to that he would run away for a while...then we went back to the friendship place and he would then begin to romance me and then I would start to cross the line of feeling like it was a friendship and then I would run away for a while from him...and so it went on.

There was also other things which stood in the way, but my feelings for him never waivered...if we could have got the timing right I would have happily gone into a full relationship with him. Whenever we got to an equal place where it seemed we could finally be honest with each other about how we felt an old boyfriend from my past would appear and this would make my NN/Satrun friend disappear on me again.

Very recently he deleted me from his friends list on FB without a word or reason and hasn't spoken to me since, although this happened not so long ago I am still totally confounded as to what happened. It doesn't even feel real to me as there was no reason that i knew about or anything I had done to him in any way that would make him sever the friendship...so I'm in the dark on that and don't know if he will even be back in touch with me again.

Even with saying all that I have really deep and committed feelings towards him and have no hard feelings at all...as to the Saturn/NN...maybe it demands that we face our maturity and allow for each others soul growth? But at the same time it seems that it triggers a huge feeling of this person being incredibly important and that there is a responsibility to be there for them throughout the good and hard times! That's how I felt anyway. And with that some hesitancy and inner fears rise to the surface to be looked at and overcome...but with him cutting me out of his life for absolutely no reason at all and we were always on good terms I'm still perplexed.

We also shared node wise

His North Node opposite My Sun
His Moon square My North Node
His North Node opposite My Neptune
His North Node conjunct My Chiron
His North Node conjunct My Vesta
His North Node sextile My Venus
aswell as the two contacts to Saturn.

Ive actually not seen any longlasting NN conj saturn relationship

know that Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward had a Saturn opposite North Node

North Node conjunct Saturn for Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.

Beyonce's NN squares Jay-Z's Saturn

Barack & Michelle obama have Saturn opposite NN double whammy (wide orbs 5)

Will smith's Saturn sextiles Jada's NN

Willam & Kate Middleton have Saturn square NN double whammy (wide orbs 7)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014906.html

posted April 04, 2012 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Thanks for explaining, Rosalind.

Starry, I don't know what it means but it's probably karmic.

How have you been, by the way? Haven't seen you in a while! How's it going with your boyfriend?

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