posted April 07, 2012 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Starry~*:
I guess it's a hard question to answer with Venus-Neptune.

Is true love possible with this? Or is the concept an illusion?

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posted April 07, 2012 10:56 PM            

One of the people does anything to hold on, lie cheat, steal.. Anything so the person wont leave.. I just want to help you and be your everything!
Im so good for you.. See how great I am!

Then BAM.. One day the fog clears and you say what the flip was I Thinking DOH!!
How could I be so blind...

So I like the way neptune makes you feel, its such a great experience. I wouldnt want a relationship w/o some neptune.. Because its so dreamy and this person is just so right..

posted June 25, 2012 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Hmmmm...

nVenus conj nNeptune is the rarest aspect for me. In my little black book I've found only one, and it had a 15 degree orb.

By progression, however, there have been a couple.

In the first, it was a Scorpio-Sagittarius. This person first came to me in a dream, and first thought was - wow what a beauty, can't wait to meet them in the flesh. Of course when they showed up I didn't recognize 'em. They were eager to start something, but having just untangled myself from a Scorpio I wasn't too keen on going there again. After they'd exited my life & mercury went retro it hit me...that was the person I met in the dream...darn it. Worst of all, I'd sorta, kinda requested them.

In the second, we were colleagues who worked the graveyard shift. Again, this was someone I could see myself settling down with. So pretty so perfect, a Sagittarius-Scorpio. Shamefully, it went nowhere.

Those are my experiences with this aspect. Too short to give in depth feedback, but I find the aspect dreamy. I have Neptune oppose Sun.

This feeds into two pet theories of mine.

1. The conjunction is the only aspect strong enough to bring two people together. If you can't find it, you aren't looking at he right charts.

2. In this life, we only get to meet a few people, or "few original energies". The cut off point would be the first lunar return. All subsequent matchups are just repetitions or copies of those energies.

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Hello Nine:

You said that natal Venus conjunct natal Neptune is rare well I have it in my chart. My Venus conjunct Neptune in the 6th House ruled by Scorpio. I have Venus in Scorpio and Neptune in Sagittarius. I also have Jupiter conjunct Neptune in 6th House. Neptune square Moon in Aquarius with my Moon in my 9th House ruled by Uranus. Neptune is strongly aspected in my chart.

I can tell you Neptune conjunct Venus is probably not good. Relationships for me have been bad. I'm currently leaving my children's father after 12 years of being together, but never marrying, which is one of the reasons why I'm leaving him. I thought he was so wonderful until the truth was revealed. Pluto is transiting my Sun right now in the 7th House. So relationships at this time are changing for me in a profound way for the first time in my life. We all know what Pluto can do. I'm grateful though because now I can move on to something better. I wish my children's father the best, but we cannot stay together.

The gentleman I am interested in some of our strongest synastry aspects are include: my Venus in Scorpio 24' 6th House conjunct his Neptune in Scorpio 23' 7th House and his Venus in Aquarius 2' 10th House is in weak sextile to my Neptune in Sagittarius 1' 6th House. His Mars in Libra 17' 6th House conjunct my Uranus in Libra 13' 4th House, just to mention a few.

I was told by two astrologers that our composite chart indicated love at first sight, a romeo and juliet, with far too much energy flowing between us, we would possibly wear each other out and tire quickly from being around each other so much that we would want to end the relationship. What I found quite interesting that the astrologers mentioned was that the composite chart also indicated too much heightened sensitivity which would undoubtedly result in violence and not to be taken lightly, bewitching, trying to appear one way to the other, but that is not the way it is, the kindness or helping the other in need is done in disguise with intentions or ulterior motives, getting each other into a lot of trouble and one of us will get into serious karmic debt with the other and one of us will want to get out of the relationship, but will come to realize we're too far in to get out.

In synastry, Pluto and Saturn are in there dominating with Sun and Moon not too far behind! Don't let me start mentioning Mars and Venus too. Our midpoints are on fire with personal planets like Sun and Venus aspecting strong conjunctions to both our Sun/Moon midpoints. Our North Nodes and South Nodes are quite strongly conjuncting other planets and the Asc/Dcs axis, especially the South Nodes. Not to mention in synastry we have a truck load of apects for a marriage guaranteed.

I was warned, if we're not spiritually evolved and/or mature then this relationship is bound for violence to the core! People will begin to question if this relationship is ruled by the supernatural or is there some magic going on? I was also warned since natally Moon square Venus, Venus opposition Saturn, Mars opposition Saturn, Mars semisquare Pluto and Saturn Sesquaquidrate Pluto to use wise judgment! But knowing me, I know what I crave, if the relationship is not intense and powerful, then I do not want it! This man happens to be a Capricorn too with transiting Pluto aspecting Sun. Capricorns are just the way I like them.

Lastly, I was told that the natal Venus conjunct Neptune aspect causes a lot of pain for the native. They have painful relationships because they generally function in love from a spiritual perspective. They tend to look for the love of their life that is their soulmate who is almost always a homosexual or happily married with five kids. They are easy to fall in love with the wrong person who has taken them to hell and back again!

I'm planning to meet this gentlemen in October of this year.

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posted June 25, 2012 07:55 PM            

It can be out of this world but more often than not it's about intense valuation and devaluation as if you seem someone like they are flawless and they appear to be "the one" and you can fall for the illusion to a point of not noticing the massive flaws/red flags etc.

It really depends if the neptunian peson uses their neptune for evil or good.

posted June 25, 2012 08:26 PM            

I have Venus quincunx or inconjunct Mrs Y's Neptune by less than 0.25 degrees, which is worse.

Stop listening to the smack talk. It's a crock of manure. Bottom line is if I were so disillusioned after 20 years, I wouldn't know my head from my buttocks.

You know me as a straight talker. Do I seem like I'm a whacked out dreamer in love with the concept of love??

I have Venus Conjunct Neptune with you too. What the hell is so bad with this aspect?!?

posted June 25, 2012 09:18 PM            

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I have Venus quincunx or inconjunct Mrs Y's Neptune by less than 0.25 degrees, which is worse.

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Venus quincunx Neptune in synastry ain't the same as Venus conjunct Neptune in synastry, is it??

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Stop listening to the smack talk. It's a crock of manure. Bottom line is if I were so disillusioned after 20 years, I wouldn't know my head from my buttocks.

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okay.

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You know me as a straight talker. Do I seem like I'm a whacked out dreamer in love with the concept of love??

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Honestly. Listening to the way you gush poetic about Mrs. YTA, I'd say yes. Yes, you do.

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I have Venus Conjunct Neptune with you too. What the hell is so bad with this aspect?!?

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Easy. The dreamer don't know he's dreaming until he wakes up.

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People who smack talk can't hold down a relationship...

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a-ha

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...so they'll do best to stop talking sh1t

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posted June 25, 2012 09:29 PM            

Amazing Chart you've got there. Especially with all those Neptune contacts. I wonder how you do separate the Neptune conjunct Venus & the Jupiter conjunct Venus. I get the felling both make Venus exceedingly optimistic & blind to flaws in partners.

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You said that natal Venus conjunct natal Neptune is rare well I have it in my chart. My Venus conjunct Neptune in the 6th House ruled by Scorpio.

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posted June 25, 2012 09:48 PM            

You okay? You just sound mad and fed up. Nobody meant to annoy you.

posted June 25, 2012 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by crabbypatty:
In my case, dangerous. I was Venus, he was Neptune. I fell so hard for this man, nobody else could understand why. The red flags were there, and it's like I saw and heard, and yet ignored. Even messed up my relationship with my father, who knew I was deluded. Thirteen years later and my dream man and I are getting divorced. It is so sad. We have a child who loves his Daddy so, so much, and will now be separated from him because Mommy simply cannot live with Daddy any more. He has nothing that is in any way, shape or form what I need in a man. The delusion was complete. The sex (from my perspective) was finished by year three. When the Neptune fog cleared, and I saw what was there to be seen, I could no longer stomach him. At all. The thing is, he's not a bad person. Some woman will like him. Just not me, anymore. That's what Venus Neptune can do, if you ask me.

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posted June 26, 2012 12:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
YTA,

You okay? You just sound mad and fed up. Nobody meant to annoy you.

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Faith,

posted June 26, 2012 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Hi there, Oracle.

Amazing Chart you've got there. Especially with all those Neptune contacts. I wonder how you do separate the Neptune conjunct Venus & the Jupiter conjunct Venus. I get the felling both make Venus exceedingly optimistic & blind to flaws in partners.

Yes. But I meant in my synastry with others. I do get a lot of squares though. I have Neptune in Sagittarius.

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Hello Nine, how are you? Thanks for the chart compliment. You wouldn't believe how Saturn has tortured me! Astrologers say that Mercury is my chart ruler. I beg to differ, SATURN is my chart ruler! To answer your question, how do I separate the Jupiter conjunct Venus and the Venus conjunct Neptune aspects is a very interesting question. The Venus conjunct Jupiter is a little easier to distinguish because I'm faced with it more often than the other aspect. At least, I think I do. Venus conjunct Jupiter deals mostly with extravagances and over-indulgences. Like overeating and drinking. Over spending is also likely and losing self-control. Neptune in the 6th House makes the native having to be very careful with prescription drugs and recreational drug usage. It also indicates the native may suffer from an illness that is hard to diagnose.

Venus conjunct Neptune is just like you mentioned. You couldn't be more right! It is not nice, the native can be easily fooled into believing they have the perfect person. It is almost like in past lives you messed over, lied and deceived a lot of lovers and people who truted you. So in this life you are getting it all back. Depending on the native it can be pure hell like in my case. When in reality they have a sociopath that they think they are so in love with! Over time after the native has lost everything then finally wake up to reality, now then they see the truth (realizing you've been mistreated and a sucker!) The damage has already been done. You didn't get what you THOUGHT you were getting.

These natives are beautiful, empathetic, compassionate, and very optimistic. But watch out they can and will be taken advantage of. Not all, but most. People often take their kindness for weakness. These native fall in love easily and look at the world through rose-colored glasses.

I love life with a passion, I believe strongly it is a precious gift and will always view from this perspective.
But there are people in the world who do not view life this way. Yes I fall in love easily, but do not marry easily--that is the Capricorn in me! I'm optimistic, jolly, gentle and loving (when I'm not stressed out), but I'm also very, very serious--again that is the Capricorn in me!

There are natives with this aspect that have met kind people and life is wonderful for them. How fortunate to have good karma? Of all my friends, family and associates none of them have this aspect. But they all realize that the world is no picnic and so do I! Maybe I just go a little overboard in my quest for profound happiness!

posted June 26, 2012 01:14 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hey,

I have Venus quincunx or inconjunct Mrs Y's Neptune by less than 0.25 degrees, which is worse.

Stop listening to the smack talk. It's a crock of manure. Bottom line is if I were so disillusioned after 20 years, I wouldn't know my head from my buttocks.

You know me as a straight talker. Do I seem like I'm a whacked out dreamer in love with the concept of love??

I have Venus Conjunct Neptune with you too. What the hell is so bad with this aspect?!?

People who smack talk can't hold down a relationship, so they'll do best to stop talking sh1t

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Are you referring to me?

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OracleOracle

Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Mercury Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Taurus
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Virgo
North Node Aquarius
Midheaven Pisces
Vertex Scorpio

posted June 26, 2012 01:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Thefish:
Venus conjunct neptune is quite dangerous.

It can be out of this world but more often than not it's about intense valuation and devaluation as if you seem someone like they are flawless and they appear to be "the one" and you can fall for the illusion to a point of not noticing the massive flaws/red flags etc.

It really depends if the neptunian peson uses their neptune for evil or good.

Neptune can be beautiful dreams/fantasies or it can be illusions and traps etc.

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You are so right, Thefish. It does depend on how the Neptunian person uses their Neptune energy for evil or for good.

How many Neptunian aspects do you have in your chart?

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Mercury Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Taurus
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Virgo
North Node Aquarius
Midheaven Pisces
Vertex Scorpio

posted June 26, 2012 01:58 AM            

I have Neptune conjunct Venus in Sagittarius with a female best friend of mine… This conjunction square her Moon in Virgo, and quincunx my Moon in Cancer (our Moons are sextile within 2 degrees).

We get along just fine. She is my cousin and we have known each other since childhood. One thing that we do have together is that we just naturally understand each other, and feel free to confide in each other more then we would with most other people…. Of course we have a sisters/friends relationship… Not an overly idealistic romance, as some have complained about.

posted June 26, 2012 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Faith,

I know that nobody has meant to annoy me, but those are just my frank sentiments about the forum in general. I do question myself why I'm hanging out in here when I'm so irritated. Some see it as myself being too sensitive. Nonetheless, at the end of the day, I do get irritated by the smack talk.

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Which "smack talk"?

I was saying here, I never did manage to hold down a Venus conjunct Neptune romantic relationship...but that's just me.

So I married a man whose Neptune is NOT conjunct my Venus, and now I can hold down a relationship just fine.

posted June 26, 2012 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

I have Neptune conjunct Venus in Sagittarius with a female best friend of mine… This conjunction square her Moon in Virgo, and quincunx my Moon in Cancer (our Moons are sextile within 2 degrees).

We get along just fine.

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Hi Lotis White,

I have Venus @ Sag 7, Neptune @ Sag 13.

Edit: ^ That is, rounded UP.

Many of my friends have Neptune in Sag... not tightly conjunct my Venus, since they are younger than me...but anyway, it's not a problem there.

Because I don't fall in love with them.

posted June 26, 2012 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Hi Starry~*

I've had this a few times, but I've only been Neptune. Neither dangerous nor most fulfilling for me, but Venus was [b]always quite enchanted. My natal Neptune is in the 5th so it works quite a spell on its own. No illusions there, really, I think that one is up to the people involved, how keen they are on deception. Wouldn't call this aspect "a sure sign of true love" on its own, at all. Also I'll mention that my Neptune is not afflicted/not receiving any hard aspects in the natal (even a conj), so the natal condition of each is another thing to consider.[/B]

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Thanks Lonake, that is a good point you've made

We have our venus conjunct neptune in Capricorn, he and I have always seen and say things the way it is. No smoke and mirror. If I detect smoke and mirror, I will get to the bottom of it cuz he knows I don't take half @$$-ness!! haha, but then again, I'm also a Venus conj Pluto in the 1st House person...and he, himself, is a Mars conjunct pluto in his 1st house.

posted June 26, 2012 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Oracle:
Are you referring to me?

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posted June 26, 2012 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Starry~*:
I'm also a Venus conj Pluto in the 1st House person...and he, himself, is a Mars conjunct pluto in his 1st house.

There's some UMPH for ya :P What neptune?

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posted June 26, 2012 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I know you often question why you are even here. It's because we are so fabulous despite the smack talk, IMHO.

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