posted June 26, 2012 11:30 AM            

I had strong neptune in 12th and venus stuff with my ex. It felt magical and amazing but it was all a foggy illusion. Caught up so much in ideal of it all, I didn't answer questions when the red flags came up, chose instead to believe in fantasy. The feelings were real but it was so intangible and not able to last.

I loved him, truly did. But was happy to move on (has been a year now) and looking forward to a relationship that is not shrouded in a magical cloud.

posted June 26, 2012 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Yes, I have a strong personality. But those who like me will like me regardless and those who don't like me... Well ...

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How can they not like you when you are all sweetness and light?

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Hell, one "expert" even prophesized that I'm headed towards divorce, being so damn sure that the aspects said so. Well, I call out BS! Dittos for this aspect here.

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It's just confusing because you and your wife don't have the aspect in question.
Anyway I came up with a jingle about your comment, it goes like this:

Your wife loves you
This we know
Cuz you always tell us so
We can talk smack all day long
But you know that we are wrong
Yes your wife loves you
Yes your wife loves you
Yes your wife loves you
The smack we talk is wrong

I hope you like it.

posted June 26, 2012 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hahaha I know I'm often criticized for taking things too seriously and being overly sensitive, but when astrology is often held in high regard, and when the talk about certain aspects almost gives one the ability to form conclusions akin to gospel truth, I strike back. Hell, one "expert" even prophesized that I'm headed towards divorce, being so damn sure that the aspects said so. Well, I call out BS! Dittos for this aspect here. Regardless of what is liked here or whatever mantra is spouted, I will always give my honest opinion based on practical reality, not some theoretical handbook. Yes, I have a strong personality. But those who like me will like me regardless and those who don't like me... Well ...

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posted June 26, 2012 03:23 PM            

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O this is v.compatible, v.steamy, i can def see the attraction here (!) and YAY for Capricorn Neptune you likely idealize strength of purpose and solid intentions, dreams that are water tight and making the commitment to achieve them, knowing the industry inside out. You know I have Venus Cap and it *is* conj the Nept of a family friend (I'm not Neptune Cap), I see him as quite talented and when we talk at gatherings we always make a beeline for each other to discuss his new work, we'll just sit going over his portfolio for an hour oblivious to anyone else, and I always encourage him in his pursuits. We have a gentle manner of interacting and it's always pleasant. So maybe there's an element of the Neptune person seeing Venus as someone who would cheer them on in their successes and Venus feels flattered when Neptune shares their goals and visions with them? Maybe one even acts as inspiration for the other.[/B]

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Haha yes, my neptune in capricorn conj his venus in capricorn (He himself is a venus conjunct neptune in capricorn, in his 3rd house). We've spent many times talking about work and career..and yesterday he just gave me a nice long lecture about managing finances...but you know what, I'm glad someone can talk about these things with me. We are still young and these are the things we look forward to as we start our life together.

posted June 26, 2012 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Oracle:
You are so right, Thefish. It does depend on how the Neptunian person uses their Neptune energy for evil or for good.

How many Neptunian aspects do you have in your chart?

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Mercury Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Taurus
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Virgo
North Node Aquarius
Midheaven Pisces
Vertex Scorpio

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Well, I've got neptune in Sag retrograge which is sextile to mercury in a fairly tight orb. It's also sextile pluto but inconjunct saturn and the moon. It's pretty busy in my chart not to mention that it's ruler, Pisces, houses my sun, venus, jupiter, lillith, and pallas

posted June 28, 2012 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Thefish:
Well, I've got neptune in Sag retrograge which is sextile to mercury in a fairly tight orb. It's also sextile pluto but inconjunct saturn and the moon. It's pretty busy in my chart not to mention that it's ruler, Pisces, houses my sun, venus, jupiter, lillith, and pallas

oh and my neptune widely conjuncts (5 deg 42') my north node

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Hi Thefish:

My Neptune is pretty busy too and she resides in my 6th House. The 6th House not ony rules work and daily living, but it also rules clothing and rituals! Got that ladies? She accompanies Venus, Jupiter and Vesta all in my 6th House and then she get's to work. In my chart, Neptune squares Moon in 9th House, Neptune conjunct Venus and Neptune conjunct Jupiter and Vesta in 6th House, Neptune Sextile Pluto in 4th House, Neptune trine Chiron in 10th House, Neptune conjunct Descendant (wide orb) and Neptune does just the opposite with my North Node in 9th House: it squares my North Node. My extra-sensory perception is working overtime. I have Neptune sextile Mercury transit. This is a long term transit.

Thefish do you experience deception, lie and trickery in your relationships with other people or people do not seem to be who they really are? Everyone on the planet experiences this, however, has your experience been life altering, traumatizing or even painful especially in regards to trusting pivotal persons in your life? I can attest to this.

It is said that many smokers have Neptune retrograde? Do you smoke?

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Mercury Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Taurus
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Virgo
North Node Aquarius
Midheaven Pisces
Vertex Scorpio

posted June 28, 2012 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Oracle:
Hi Thefish:
It is said that many smokers have Neptune retrograde? Do you smoke? [\quote]

Interesting...i smoke and i have neptune retrograde...what accounts for this?

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Mercury Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Taurus
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Virgo
North Node Aquarius
Midheaven Pisces
Vertex Scorpio

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posted June 28, 2012 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Pennylane:
How would it play out if person A has venus conjunct neptune natally, and their venus conjuncts person B's neptune, who has venus quincunx neptune natally?

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posted June 29, 2012 12:52 AM            

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I smoked off and on for about 6 years and quit smoking (cold turkey) 3 1/2 years ago and never looked back. My Neptune is not
Retrograde.

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Mercury Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Taurus
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Virgo
North Node Aquarius
Midheaven Pisces
Vertex Scorpio

posted June 29, 2012 05:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Pennylane:
So just to clarify, you have a perfect wife who youre crazy about? Is that right?

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posted June 29, 2012 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have no idea what is perfection because I don't think I've seen it, but we do very well for a couple married for 19 years. Thank you.

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posted June 29, 2012 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Pennylane:
I was just confused as to why you seemed so defensive and you seemed to take this whole neptune being a bad aspect very personally.

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This is because the concept of a DISCUSSION is completely lost on some people. They just don't get it that some ideas will be for and some against the topic being discussed.

The minute an expressed idea/thought/personal experience goes against what they believe in, it immediately gets labeled as "smack talk," and they become reactionary as though something very personal is being threatened. And under the pretext of "straight talk," and being "frank" they then bemoan that they are not "liked."

Imo this is just another way to attract attention to oneself and to also vent anger which seems to be constantly simmering.

Hmm ... way too much aggression for such a simple discussion as the one going on. Perhaps it makes them feel more manly to be so overly aggressive among a predominantly female board? IDK. *shrug*

It sure introduces unpleasantness, though.

For example--

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I know that nobody has meant to annoy me, but those are just my frank sentiments about the forum in general.

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I wasn't aware that the forum was being forced upon anyone.

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I do question myself why I'm hanging out in here when I'm so irritated.

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posted June 29, 2012 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I know that nobody has meant to annoy me, but those are just my frank sentiments about the forum in general. I do question myself why I'm hanging out in here when I'm so irritated.

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The dislike for the forum has been shown previously also, not only on other thread discussions by the same poster YTA while expressing his general dissatisfaction, but also more seriously when he said on a previous thread about a month ago, that he would bring down the entire site through a law suit against the site.

Those of us who are loyal to the site and to Randall, and truly appreciate and want to learn astrology, do NOT appreciate these type of statements.

So perhaps ...

"I do question myself why I'm hanging out in here when I'm so irritated."

posted June 29, 2012 03:39 PM            

And I don't care tuppence whether you like me or not, or whether you want me to go.

And anyone who doesn't think I would subpoena IP records and thus names and addresses would be sadly mistaken.

I will be as aggressive as I need to be, whenever and however I see fit. I snap heads off when I need to.

posted June 29, 2012 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Pennylane:
I was just confused as to why you seemed so defensive and you seemed to take this whole neptune being a bad aspect very personally. But hey if i can find someone whos venus conjuncts my neptune and hes gaga over me as you are ovet your wife, i will be one happy camper.

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posted June 29, 2012 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
And anyone who doesn't think I would subpoena IP records and thus names and addresses would be sadly mistaken.

I will be as aggressive as I need to be, whenever and however I see fit.

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posted June 29, 2012 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Is that a threat?

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No, it isn't a threat. It is fact. I don't intend to exercise any action if it is not necessary.

I don't issue empty threats. I take action.

posted June 29, 2012 03:52 PM            

Venus/Neptune - conjunction is neither inherently good nor bad.

Actually I like it a lot, as long as it doesn`t get harsh square aspects.

The one "problem" I can see with this is, that even though it is an aspect indicative of possibly a very dreamy love, almost "ideal" (whatever ideal means), sometimes Venus wants a more sensual personal relationship, while Neptune`s love is more of the allencompassing spiritual kind.

But it depends on the overall personality of both people of course, if that will manifest like this.

posted June 29, 2012 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Oracle:
Hi Thefish:

My Neptune is pretty busy too and she resides in my 6th House. The 6th House not ony rules work and daily living, but it also rules clothing and rituals! Got that ladies? She accompanies Venus, Jupiter and Vesta all in my 6th House and then she get's to work. In my chart, Neptune squares Moon in 9th House, Neptune conjunct Venus and Neptune conjunct Jupiter and Vesta in 6th House, Neptune Sextile Pluto in 4th House, Neptune trine Chiron in 10th House, Neptune conjunct Descendant (wide orb) and Neptune does just the opposite with my North Node in 9th House: it squares my North Node. My extra-sensory perception is working overtime. I have Neptune sextile Mercury transit. This is a long term transit.

Thefish do you experience deception, lie and trickery in your relationships with other people or people do not seem to be who they really are? Everyone on the planet experiences this, however, has your experience been life altering, traumatizing or even painful especially in regards to trusting pivotal persons in your life? I can attest to this.

It is said that many smokers have Neptune retrograde? Do you smoke?

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Mercury Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Taurus
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Virgo
North Node Aquarius
Midheaven Pisces
Vertex Scorpio

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Last serious relationship was with a Borderline/Histrionic disordered person. Of course I didn't know this ahead of time because I didn't know what it was and she was a master manipulator.

Relationship caused a lot of problems for me eventually it ended up as good thing as I learned exactly what to avoid and to quickly identify the bad behaviors.

It does seem to end up that way. I'm too honest and giving and people take advantage constantly.

No smoking unless you count the hippy lettuce and that's maybe once or twice a year now if at all.

posted June 29, 2012 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I will be here at a time and reason of my choosing. And yes, I will not stand for defamatory and libelous remarks. I will stand firm in my convictions, and yes, I will take whatever action I deem necessary, again at a time of my choosing.

And I don't care tuppence whether you like me or not, or whether you want me to go.

And anyone who doesn't think I would subpoena IP records and thus names and addresses would be sadly mistaken.

I will be as aggressive as I need to be, whenever and however I see fit. I snap heads off when I need to.

Don't like me? Feel free to ignore me. But step on my toes and I will retaliate.

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I do like how you use defamation and libel when you don't seem to grasp how they applied in the legal system.

It's kind of hard to file a defamation suit against someone who doesn't know your identity.

Not to mention that message boards are private domain ...

Or that you are encroaching on said private domain.

Then there's the whole subpoena concept which by the way would require a court order and you also need justifcation for said court order.

And to top it all off you're making threats on an internet message board to people whom you don't know.