posted July 02, 2012 10:25 PM            

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Right now Pluto is transiting almost exactly conjunct sun, Uranus is squaring his sun, and his older son needs constant medical attention.

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That and he has pMars conjunct pSun. Excerpts:...

Your ego energies are high. You have great confidence and will not easily allow someone to take advantage of you. Unfortunately this may also mean that you will get into fights and arguments. Try to remember that other people have egos too...

You have a great deal of physical energy, which mean to you can work hard and long. Physical work is preferred over mental work because is uses your energy more completely.

After extensive mental work you may still feel very restless and in turn irritable.

If you suppress this energy it is most likely to come out negatively in arguments, fights, accidents or injuries.

Knowflakes, can you be sure YTA's account hasn't been hacked??

posted July 02, 2012 10:27 PM            

But I really really feel the need to chim in here....
So Im going to get in on this one..

YTA/Linda/Faith....
I say all of this to everyone with everyone's feelings in mind, with as much respect to each person as possible...

YTA's demeanor comes across very rudely. To the point I personally stopped reading anything he has to say.. I wont even comment on a legit post of his, because a few posts down the line, he starts making rude remarks when he disagree's.

There is no problem disagreeing.. Hey we are not all going to agree... But at the same time, one can disagree in a respectful way.

Telling people and I quote

QUOTE]Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hey,

I have Venus quincunx or inconjunct Mrs Y's Neptune by less than 0.25 degrees, which is worse.

Stop listening to the smack talk. It's a crock of manure. Bottom line is if I were so disillusioned after 20 years, I wouldn't know my head from my buttocks.

You know me as a straight talker. Do I seem like I'm a whacked out dreamer in love with the concept of love??

I have Venus Conjunct Neptune with you too. What the hell is so bad with this aspect?!?

People who smack talk can't hold down a relationship, so they'll do best to stop talking sh1t[/QUOTE]

Is just a terrible way to speak to people.. Who wouldnt get offended? Its just down right rude and disrespectful, not only to the person but to everyone on the board.. I come on read ooo venus/Neptune.. They the entire thread goes in another direction of people arguing.. No one wins here...

No one is personally attacking you or your wife.. No one was even speaking about you.. They were talking about 1 aspect..
Anyone that comes on here, knows that other factors are to be considered, plus energy plays out differently for different people.
Softer aspects have and easier flow, than harder aspects...

@YTA, Im not saying not to say your opinion, everyones opinion is valuable... But it can be done with respect and dignity.
Stating your personal experience is also a valuable learning tool for each person that reads the post... Verse it "being a crock of **** "..
That defeats the purpose of this entire website.
No- one is questioning your relationship with your wife.. Your happy.. Thats great!! Thats all that matters...

@ Faith
We all have problems, issues, and trauma.. Its no excuse to disrespect others..

We all desire companionship, but being rude has the opposite effect..

Thats my 2cents

thats all I have to say on the matter..

posted July 02, 2012 10:32 PM            

I like YTA even though he grumps. I think Linda stated her case pretty strongly, and for everyone else to pile on the criticism just seems excessive.

posted July 02, 2012 10:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:

Telling people and I quote
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Is just a terrible way to speak to people.. Who wouldnt get offended? Its just down right rude and disrespectful, not only to the person but to everyone on the board.

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Lioness, I understand. I was also offended by that remark, especially since I felt that it was intended for me (I contributed a lot at the beginning of this thread.)

No, I don't mean to excuse anything.

But I did want to say that I had some good times talking with YTA, many of us have, and because of that I hate to see him "on trial" without anyone to defend him at all.

posted July 02, 2012 10:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Lioness, I understand. I was also offended by that remark, especially since I felt that it was intended for me (I contributed a lot at the beginning of this thread.)

No, I don't mean to excuse anything.

But I did want to say that I had some good times talking with YTA, many of us have, and because of that I hate to see him "on trial" without anyone to defend him at all.

Aquaguy, where are you?

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I feel ya... There is nothing wrong with liking him.. Thats good.. Im glad.. (honestly)
My intention was not to be rude in any way to your or YTA..
But He's upsetting the "board" which is why so many people are reacting badly to him...
Its not my place to say anything to him, really.. But I wanted to say how he was coming off, and I wanted to do it respectfully..
@ YTA..
I mean no disrespect towards you at all..
But I did want to say how you are coming across and why people or back lashing towards you...
Sometimes it gets to the point where people just feel the need to lash back.

posted July 02, 2012 10:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
No one is personally attacking you or your wife.. No one was even speaking about you.. They were talking about 1 aspect..
Anyone that comes on here, knows that other factors are to be considered, plus energy plays out differently for different people.
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No- one is questioning your relationship with your wife.. Your happy.. Thats great!! Thats all that matters...

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Originally posted by Lioness:
He's upsetting the "board" which is why so many people are reacting badly to him...
Its not my place to say anything to him, really.. But I wanted to say how he was coming off

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posted July 02, 2012 11:30 PM            

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Nine: Source?

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**Gasp**

Disclosure: With so little material out on progressed aspects, I substituted in a tMars conjunct nSun writeup.

Source: Robert Hand, Planets in Transit.

posted July 04, 2012 02:19 PM            

Hi Thefish:

You could not have said it any better. There are quite of few mentally ill people that will take advantage of you and don't care absolutely nothing about you. It is a shame we live in a society that we have to guard our kindness and prejudice is a virtue.

I like to use the term sociopath to describe such persons because that is exactly what they are. After they have used you up and made your life a living hell; dragging you down to their lowlife level they are on to their next victim!

"I use therefore, I am." --Capricorn legacy

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Vertex Scorpio

posted July 04, 2012 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
I really dont get myself involved in these internet disagreements. I keep to myself, and use this LL as a learning tool..

But I really really feel the need to chim in here....
So Im going to get in on this one..

YTA/Linda/Faith....
I say all of this to everyone with everyone's feelings in mind, with as much respect to each person as possible...

:
[b]Hey,

I have Venus quincunx or inconjunct Mrs Y's Neptune by less than 0.25 degrees, which is worse.

Stop listening to the smack talk. It's a crock of manure. Bottom line is if I were so disillusioned after 20 years, I wouldn't know my head from my buttocks.

You know me as a straight talker. Do I seem like I'm a whacked out dreamer in love with the concept of love??

I have Venus Conjunct Neptune with you too. What the hell is so bad with this aspect?!?

People who smack talk can't hold down a relationship, so they'll do best to stop talking sh1t

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Is just a terrible way to speak to people.. Who wouldnt get offended? Its just down right rude and disrespectful, not only to the person but to everyone on the board.. I come on read ooo venus/Neptune.. They the entire thread goes in another direction of people arguing.. No one wins here...

No one is personally attacking you or your wife.. No one was even speaking about you.. They were talking about 1 aspect..
Anyone that comes on here, knows that other factors are to be considered, plus energy plays out differently for different people.
Softer aspects have and easier flow, than harder aspects...

@YTA, Im not saying not to say your opinion, everyones opinion is valuable... But it can be done with respect and dignity.
Stating your personal experience is also a valuable learning tool for each person that reads the post... Verse it "being a crock of **** "..
That defeats the purpose of this entire website.
No- one is questioning your relationship with your wife.. Your happy.. Thats great!! Thats all that matters...

@ Faith
We all have problems, issues, and trauma.. Its no excuse to disrespect others..

We all desire companionship, but being rude has the opposite effect..

Thats my 2cents

thats all I have to say on the matter..

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Lioness:

Nicely said. I generally don't get involved with Internet arguments either because it' useless and defeats the purpose of the discussion. It takes the discussion nowhere and information is lost, no one benefits. Does it make sense to argument and fight with someone you've never even met, personally?

Some of the remarks that were made were made after I commented because I have this aspect natally with Saturn opposition Venus and Mars and Moon square Venus, so this aspect has had it's fair share of making my relationships some terrible. I even asked the question, "Are you referring to me?" Because I too felt a little uneasy and I was hoping that I did not offend anyone even though I speaking from my own personal experience and my little knowledge of astrology.

But any rate, it is not a good thing to make such comments or insult anyone. Like I said before that we will disagree all the time. Let's just implement astrology to back up our disagreements.

Someone said before to what degree and other hard aspects in one's chart has to do with how this aspect plays out too. I'm certain that psychological, environmental and cultural aspects play a role too in how this aspects effects the native/couple.

"I use therefore, I am." --Capricorn Legacy

posted July 04, 2012 02:56 PM            

With all due respect, it's alright to disagree with me. It's alright if 10,000 people disagree with me or dislike my conduct. Like I have always said, anyone and everyone is free to tune me out.

I am who I am, and I don't give two pennies for what anyone thinks in here, and so don't expect me to change one iota. Whether or not the masses like me matters not to me. I have developed some valuable friendships on here, and only those matter.

I will continue to express my opinion freely, and if I believe that what is said amounts to a crock of sh1t, I will express it each and every time.

At the end of the day, I have a wife who loves me to death, and a few others who adore me, and that's all that I care.

I'll do anything to protect the honor of my wife and my marriage. This includes people smack talking the aspects I have with my wife. I take such matters rather personally and have no qualms about firing back.

posted July 05, 2012 12:44 PM            

You don't have Venus conjunct Neptune with your wife. So DEFINITELY, nothing on this thread pertains to your relationship.

For the sake of clarity, you ought to cough up examples of "smack talk" on this thread...no it's not apparent to us who you were targeting, even now. If you were talking to Starry all along, you should have said so to spare others from feeling like we were in your crosshairs.

Telling off a bunch of people at once, for nebulous reasons, and then bragging that you are not afraid to do so, is pretty bombastic. You are better than that. Take the high road.

Granted, everyone knows that it's possible to deliberately use astrology to irritate people. Any of us can target and insult others by repeatedly alluding to certain "bad" aspects and then pretending we have no one on this forum in mind when we are doing so. It's an option, sure.

But if anyone is trying to find flaws in your relationship with your wife or expose your marriage as a fraud, you've done a poor job presenting your case. In fact, it is built on hot air. What makes people wonder is your apparent hypochondria about it.

Unfortunately your behavior on this thread is more suggestive of actual marriage problems than anything astrology could tell us.

But so what? If you claim to have a perfect marriage, that is bullsh*t. No one does. Nothing you say can make us believe you are in "happily ever after" land because most of us are too smart to believe in it.

Even me, and I have Venus conjunct Neptune for cripe's sake.

You like straight talk and here it is.

From one Cap Rabbit to another.

posted July 05, 2012 01:49 PM            

to be straightforward and honest one doesn`t need to be rude and using vulgar language.

posted July 05, 2012 02:49 PM            

From one Cap Rabbit to another, I have too much respect for you to play straight talk.

That's where the gloves come off and the mouth fires, and I show zero mercy or restraint. I'm not going to go there with you.

Things will get hurtful from here on, and I don't mean just language, and I have no such inclinations.

Capriqquarius is gone. That's all that matters.

I never said I have a perfect marriage. Its great and wonderful to me. I don't know what perfection is. Do you?

As for the assertion that my marriage is unhappy, you guys just don't know about any of that. Ami knows. She is on all my personal pages. Lilithpluto knows. Hell, Starry knows. Ask those ladies.

posted July 05, 2012 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Lioness,

I really like the way you express yourself.

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posted July 05, 2012 10:16 PM            

Perhaps I should begin a new thread about Vertex in Scorpio 16 degrees in 5th House? And the rest of my many so-called Avataric aspects.

Boy, do I love Astrology!

"I use therefore, I am." --Capricorn legacy

posted July 19, 2012 02:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think Linda stated her case pretty strongly

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I needed to. It was getting to be really annoying to find that in practically every post he (YTA) made, he was aggressive and bullying. And because this board has members who are, for the most part, decent, civil, and polite, each time someone got bullied by him, they would back off.

When I first joined, I supported him a lot and he knows it. But then after 2 months I began to notice that he was becoming increasingly rude to everyone in general. Now I find his posts to be filled with self-importance, manipulative, narcissistic, bigoted, misogynistic, aggressively bullying, attention seeking and unintelligent.

Take this thread for example, where he just barges in and, without having anything constructive to offer, refers to the women posters as an "estrogen brigade" who don't understand the OP--page 2.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000725-2.html

Or this thread, where he presents a made up scenario just to get attention--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000738.html

I could go on ...

But the main thing is that it is important to stand up to bullies like him who manipulate others' kindness for their own agenda, i.e., to get attention.

Plus he doesn't have the graciousness to apologize, not even to Randall who corrected him when he cussed at the women members. YTA's response was to peevishly complain that he was unhappy and dissatisfied on this board. The same response he's shown on this thread at being corrected. There seems to be no accountability by him for his own actions ... so how can he be respected?

posted July 19, 2012 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Oracle:
Hi Linda:

Thank you for your statement. That is sad that the first couple had to end their relationship in such deception. But that is how it is with this placement. It is the same for synastry, composite and natal.

This aspect probably works best for evolved souls. People with this aspect don't realize the beauty of their own personality. It seems to call for a ripening of the personality. When the personality can use this aspect in perspective then the effects are remarkable. I know this may sound strange, but take for instance, perhaps the couple or native knowing when exactly to let this aspect take over, and maybe set boundaries. Being moderate, patient, having reverence and appreciation is also important and just simply enjoying yourself while being careful. I think prejudice should be applied in careful conideration. See being prejudice is not always a bad thing when choosing someone who is worthy of you letting this aspect take effect in your relationships. The native could also use this aspect for world peace or humanistic endeavors.

I think it could work well like I mentioned above if the native has matured and is evolved and has gone through the initiatory process or has through karmic retribution done some kind of human revolution.

It could be regarded as a gift that the native or the couple has the ability to take their relationships to a fantasy or utopian world and not be deceived by the other person! But used on the right person, I bet it can be beautiful. Everyone is not capable of taking their world to another place where they are the only ones that can go. Kind of like heaven at your finger tips!

This is my take on a more positive note. I mean we have heard this aspect go seriously wrong. I can surely relate. But there has to be a positive side. Astrology tells us what is there in our personality, but it is up to humans to utilize these gifts/aspects in ways we could never imagined. Based on what's in our hearts, our determination, and life force, these aspects can be used for the greater good. That is just my thought on this.

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Oracle

Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Vertex Scorpio

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Hi Oracle. Sorry I've taken long to reply. But I wanted to say that your post is a fantastic interpretation of what Neptune can do if used positively. In our composite we have 7H Neptune trine Venus on the IC, so I understand the beauty that it can bring to any relationship.

posted July 19, 2012 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Oracle:
Everyone, don't you all think we're getting off the subject here? NEPTUNE CONJUNCT VENUS SYNASTRY/NATAL

Perhaps I should begin a new thread about Vertex in Scorpio 16 degrees in 5th House? And the rest of my many so-called Avataric aspects.

Boy, do I love Astrology!

"I use therefore, I am." --Capricorn legacy

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Oracle
Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Vertex Scorpio

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Oracle, I'd done a thread on Planets at Avatar points--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213937.html

posted July 19, 2012 08:27 AM            

About YTA, personally I think he is a remarkably gifted and successful individual but in the last few weeks, his posts do not reflect his inner potential IMHO. He is far, far better than his recent posts.

We all know about the devastating challenges in his life and the sacrifices made by his genuinely amazing wife, and we wholeheartedly wish him the best but I sincerely request maintaining the decorum and conducting a civil discussion. Disagree politely. The moment you register here as a Knowflake, you are not the enemy of any other Knowflake. You become like family. Know that .

And a general note to all:
Anyone who ever makes any kind of legal threat on exposing IP Addresses and Identities in this forum, we moderators will recommend the threatener be banned.
Of course, offending posts that provoked the threatener will also be removed but the fact that a threatener with resources is about to bring in outsiders to threaten our Knowflake Family automatically disqualifies the person from being a member here. Every dispute must be taken up only with Moderators and with Randall to take the final call.

It is our sacred duty to protect your IP Addresses and identities so that you can have free and fearless discussion on the topics.

Keep up the good work everyone

About this topic: Indeed, Venus conjunct Neptune has been found in too many relationships that ended swiftly in heartbreak. Composite Neptune conjunct Venus in 7th House is an even worse manifestation.
Neptune quincunx Venus is actually a slighlty positive aspect as Neptune is very good in making adjustments.
Neptune square Venus will manifest as outright cheating. It has been found in abusive relationships where other afflictions too littered the chart.
With Neptune opposition Venus, the couple will instinctively know that things are too hazy and may not work out, still they may jump into the relationship, and break up without being too upset.
( And please note, a ton of good aspects can always help erase any negativity of Neptune-Venus aspects. )

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posted July 19, 2012 08:56 AM            

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the fact that a threatener with resources is about to bring in outsiders to threaten our Knowflake Family automatically disqualifies the person from being a member here.

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posted July 19, 2012 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Bullying is not tolerated in this forum. Straight talk is most welcome but rudeness is discouraged. If repeated rude comments are made against members, please feel free to report to our Mod Squad.

And a general note to all:
Anyone who ever makes any kind of legal threat on exposing IP Addresses and Identities in this forum, we moderators will recommend the threatener be banned.
Of course, offending posts that provoked the threatener will also be removed but the fact that a threatener with resources is about to bring in outsiders to threaten our Knowflake Family automatically disqualifies the person from being a member here. Every dispute must be taken up only with Moderators and with Randall to take the final call.

It is our sacred duty to protect your IP Addresses and identities so that you can have free and fearless discussion on the topics.

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Thank you, iQ for this very needed clarification on bullying, rudeness, and legal threats about exposing members' IP addresses.

"It is our sacred duty to protect your IP Addresses and identities so that you can have free and fearless discussion on the topics."