posted February 12, 2013 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Gemini Venus in the 9th.... Cancer Sun....

I've never cheated on anyone in my life, although I have been attracted to others while in a relationship. I flirt but never cross the line into physical or even emotional cheating. It's usually a quick flirtation here and there. Luckily, I've never really had jealous partners. I'm very devoted to my boyfriends.

I do get easily bored... The reason I love my current boyfriend is because I'm always trying to figure him out. He has so many complexities... and we play mind games with each other. Nothing crazy, but he'll purposefully be ambiguous with his opinions on politics or current events just to see how I would counteract. He likes to watch me figure him out, and I like analyzing him. We've been really close friends for years, which helps.

I'm quick to get into a relationship. I'm also quick to get out of it.

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posted February 12, 2013 06:29 PM              

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As i said it depends on the complexity of the individual but here are my steps that you should follow if you don't want to get burned in the future:
---try to look at the ruler of the 9th house of your partner,its position and all the aspects it can get.If you see squares and opposition there---then you have a problem because that individual cannot and does not understand what is really going on in his mind.The flow of information is distorted and moving randomly from here to there and the person cannot express clearly what he wants in life.
---if somehow venus falls on "killer" stars in gemini,then you have another problem.
---if the ruler of his 7 and 9 is debil and conjunct malefic stars,you have even a bigger problem.
For a clear expression of personality you cannot have squares and oppositions of all kinds from all angles,because that is a big nonsense,the person does not know what to do and how to express that"venus in gemini" placement.
---it also depends what planet falls as a ruler of the 9th house as it can get really ugly sometimes.
For the most complex individuals things are very different,venus in gemini has a complete different value,love has a different manifestation in the individual's mind.But then again it depends what aspects are pushing venus from behind,what planets are constricting venus to act in such way.
Another thing to take in consideration is the fact that you might not get a husband or wife that has this complexities and a venus in gemini.If you are using the tropical system to look for positions,you can go very wrong.
You have to use the sidereal system as it truly reflects your inner core.
People get deluded sometimes and they do not fully understand "why" and "how",the real mechanics and at the end they get a wrong conclusion,but i never judge the tropical system,only the sidereal.
There is much more to write about this but these are the general rules to get a better grip on your partner "understanding of life"...
P.S. I think you can sense that behind "Inquisitor" is a man.

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Interesting, well I use tropical, and at least for the guy I like right now, his 9th house ruler is his Cancer sun conjunct Jupiter and Chiron in 8th house, trine Pluto, square Moon, opposite Saturn, widely opposite Neptune, and widely square Mars (out of sign)

I consider him a very intelligent and spiritually evolved person, and some people may find him to be a bit of an extremist, but I find his viewpoints on life fascinating, and I think the respect is mutual.. that's the thing that's held us together the strongest, we get lost in conversation talking for hours about things I would probably not talk to anyone else about..

Of course there are things I don't agree with him on, and vice versa, and there are things we've vastly changed our viewpoints on over the years, but that's all part of the fun

Anyway in sidereal his Venus is actually 29 degrees Taurus (interestingly conjunct my Mars in tropical), and his 9th house ruler would be his Pisces moon sextile Venus, square Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune. So yeah definitely afflicted lol

7th house is a whole other story but he has a ton of squares and oppositions in his chart in general. As for me, Aqua rules my 9th house (which I believe is co-ruled by Uranus and Saturn??) in both tropical and sidereal. Uranus is in my 6th house conjunct Neptune, quincunx Jupiter. Saturn is in my 7th conjunct my Cap Sun and NN, trine Mars. 7th house is ruled by Saturn in tropical, sidereal it's ruled by Jupiter which is in my 2nd house trine moon, square Pluto and opp Venus.

Anyway that's an interesting perspective..

P.S. I didn't want to jump to any conclusions since women can be "inquisitors" as well

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Originally posted by Inquisitor:
Elizabeth,if you are open to "interactions" with others,there is always a possibility there that things can get realy hot with someone else.You did not found the right person to flip your world upside down yet.When you will,you will say---???wow what was that ???
One day you will discover the "end" of your partner's mind what will you do then ???
When you will,another will appear and you will be grateful for that...its just the way it is...reality is not objective,it just appears that way,its experience based...

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I really do get what you're saying, when the real thing happens it just happens there's no controlling that..

But this is what makes me insecure about Gem Venus, even if you find that one *amazing* person who rocks your world.. Doesn't everyone's mind have an "end" that you will discover at some point?? Aside from the fact that we're all growing and changing at all times? Is there really such a thing as a relationship that is constantly intriguing?

posted February 12, 2013 07:14 PM              

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Ugh!! I never ask for a relationship or sth like that, I keep quiet, hehe barely talking at all :P

Yeah, with the first guy I agree totally with what you said. He was very much into music so the fact that I liked the same stuff, helped a lot! About the second, oh god, still trying to figure out what to do
Funny thing is that I'm an Aqua with a Venus in Aqua, so I was supposed to be less emotional or relationship material than Cancer guys (according to stereotypes).

But see, I'm Capricorn + Scorpio dominant, and all these games after a while really tire me! When I get involved with someone is because I like them a lot, therefore I want them only for myself!

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Aw yeah I understand Cancer guys (especially young/immature ones) can be emotionally... complicated. Aqua can be detached, but it's also rational (and fixed), so knowing where things stand eventually becomes important.

I'm also Cap dominant and definitely get where you're coming from! Anyway don't be too discouraged, maybe you'll meet someone new soon

posted February 12, 2013 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Inquisitor:
Elizabeth,if you are open to "interactions" with others,there is always a possibility there that things can get realy hot with someone else.You did not found the right person to flip your world upside down yet.When you will,you will say---???wow what was that ???
One day you will discover the "end" of your partner's mind what will you do then ???
When you will,another will appear and you will be grateful for that...its just the way it is...reality is not objective,it just appears that way,its experience based...

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My interactions with others are purely from a mental standpoint. The measurable amount of emotional response I feel when lightly flirting with anyone (and it never goes beyond a quick exchange of whits) is comparable to when I play a board game or sudoku - I'm amused by the novelty of the moment but by no means does the experience sweep me off my figurative feet.

I don't believe in the "end" of the mind. Our minds are a constantly evolving ethos of complexities. Some more than others, and those others are the people to whom I am most attracted.

posted February 12, 2013 09:13 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I really do get what you're saying, when the real thing happens it just happens there's no controlling that..

But this is what makes me insecure about Gem Venus, even if you find that one *amazing* person who rocks your world.. Doesn't everyone's mind have an "end" that you will discover at some point?? Aside from the fact that we're all growing and changing at all times? Is there really such a thing as a relationship that is constantly intriguing?

And if you're not with this amazing person (whom you've never met), does that mean you don't value the relationships you are in and it's ok to just keep looking for the next best thing? Again I get that if it happens it happens, but at some point I think it comes down to making a choice.. If you're going to hold everyone up to a list of ideal criteria that's fine, everyone has a right to have standards, but why even bother making a commitment to someone or bringing emotions into it if you know you may not be faithful if something "better" comes along?

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Like I said above, I believe that there is no "end" to the mind.

Intrigue is difficult to maintain in a relationship with a Gemini Venus, which is why it's very important for anyone who wants to get involved with us to understand the value of novelty.

posted February 12, 2013 11:22 PM              

Thanks for your response though, I agree with you that looking for something better while committed to someone is already crossing the line, and also that novelty is important, but there's never an "ending" to the mind..

posted February 13, 2013 12:01 AM            

OK, i will do my best to answer all your questions but after that i would like you to try to answer to what i have asked yesterday on my personal topic about venus in gemini. DEAL ???
It is important for me that you try to describe what i have asked there, as it gives me a clear understanding about your perspective ( i will tell you more after that...)

Some of your placements are really easy to understand,so here they follow:
---If you have Saturn in 7 which is the ruler on 9th in fact in sideral,your life partener will be a foreigner,either you will find him in your country or you will move to another country.It will be a older person with much more experience than you,10 years or more older than you(maybe this answers why you are intrigued by mind conection,in fact it is the experience and maturity you are looking for,its just you esprese it differently in your words)...
If your Jupiter is in second(which i am not so sure that you have used the right house system)but if its there i can say that it will be a well established individual.
If you have Sun in trine with Mars than you have drive and potential in your life,which is very good(between me and you i could sense this without seeing it,for the very simple reason that you are writing to me in a certain way which means you are interested to get the sense of things...)

Now at your age,what i said here it might be too alien to accept and understand but if you contemplate deeply,eventualy you will agree with me.
Why the person will be older than you,its also easy to understand---its because structure is required in your life to be able to progress properly,so who else can give you that if not someone who has a lot of experince and a clear understanding---you have to think in that way...also from the other side it means you are a valuable person ,with some karma behind you,as not many can get the chance to taste the things you will have in life...
From the way you write to me i get the feeling that there is more to your personality that one may notice,there is more under the surface its just you are not expresing your full potential yet...

Few words about your boyfriend are necesary but i think you understood already how it will be...the realtionships people have when they are young are not of much value in themselves from the big picture perspective.Its just important to the individual,so it can get a bit of experice in dealing with facts of life,so do not stress yourelsef now with your friend,your time will come...
Your "poor" boyfriend will have to be just a page from the history one day.It might be dificult for you to underastand why and how it will really happen,but its only for your own growth---so as long as its there you can enjoy what you have left as it will not last forever.Specialy if he has squares there.The more squares and opposition you have the more conflictual that person is and it will be very dificult close to imposible to assimilate knowledge properly.You can imagine yourself in a sphere which is filtering your understanding based on those squares you have there---so how can someone see things clearly if the information is disorted in the first place ???
Now that i told you that how will you look in his eyes ???
I am sure i made your mind spin a little faster,right ???

Now, few words about sideral and tropical.I believe you are able to develop a better understanding in the variations of this systems if you try to learn the constelation from the sky direcly,at least the most important ones.Then try to see where the planets are in reality and you will see they are exactly in their sideral position.
If i am wrong in this i will give you like a gift my colection of almost 2000 books about ancient astrology and systems of magic---try if for your self,i trust you can do it !!!
You have to start and study astrology in a professional way if you want to understand the real celestial mechanics and their interactions.You have to get yourself at least 10 books about medieval astrology and strat from there...i can guide you if you need my help...

If you are an inteligent person,which i can sense you are,you will understand that relationships you are in now they are necesary for you to be able to incorporate some learning into your system of values.So the way you are looking at them now,its not the same you will percieve them in 10 years from now.
As for how deep the mind can go---that depends what aspects you get on the ruler of your ninth house.(thats why i want you to answer to my question from the topic from yesterday about venus...)
There are some aspects that can be realy disturbing in the sense that an extreme depth of thought is sensed by the individual and much much more...
Those who do not have aspects with their pluto and the ruler of ninth---there is not much there as far as the structural analisys goes.They are mostly traped into beliefs of all kinds and they will not have a great value as far as their understanding goes---they just think they understand but they don't.Most of the time they cannot reproduce abstract concepts,forget about trying to understand and describe them...

Somehow i can sense that i got you very curious and i sense the heat coming from your mind, am i wrong ???
Assuming i am not wrong,ask yourself how do i know all this ???

P.S.send me your birth data and location so i can have a clear look at your chart...

posted February 13, 2013 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Like I said above, I believe that there is no "end" to the mind.

Intrigue is difficult to maintain in a relationship with a Gemini Venus, which is why it's very important for anyone who wants to get involved with us to understand the value of novelty.

I'm never looking for something "better" to come along. It's not my mentality. If your focus is not completely on your partner and you are still looking out for something "better" to come along, that in itself is being unfaithful. I believe in devotion and commitment. Of course, I am a Cancer Sun. Having a Libra Moon goes a long way as well.

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Elizabeth i will do my best to explain it to you differently.Please follow me carefully here:

posted February 13, 2013 09:23 AM            

Thanks for your response though, I agree with you that looking for something better while committed to someone is already crossing the line, and also that novelty is important, but there's never an "ending" to the mind..

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No, it does not work in that way ---you are not really looking for something else while you are in a relationship,because you are not suposed to know you will have another husband in the first place,unless you can find out.In that case you take everything as it comes as there is nothing else you can do.
Example:
If you are designed to have 3 husbands and 2 lovers outside of your mariages,do you really think you can do something else ???
You are not a phisical body experiencing life---you are life experiencing a temporary phisical body ---there is a big diference there.Your purpose is to increase the quality of your consciousness or soul,which word you like better.You are an individuated unit of consciousness trying to improve itself.The "you" that you see when you look into the mirror is not really the most fundamental YOU.
The one from the mirror is but a pale reflection of what is really going on.You have a "higher self" which is the real you,but for most of the people that is outside of their perception.Your life is set up and descending from there."You",the one from the mirror all has to do is live in this life,experience everything that is necesary,gather the data and upload it to your higher self.This the right order.In other words,the one that you see as being yourself here in this life is not of much value from the big picture perspective,because there will be many others and you will not remember.
You are a part from The Larger Consciousness System which is aparently infinite but finite by its laws of definition...yes i know the mind starts to get burned when it gets close to these concepts,but its just the way it is...

As the potential of growth with your first husband gets close to 0 value,you will be removed from it and eventualy you will divorce.In the same time or probably after that, the second husband will apear and so on...This a a fractal patern Firemoon,you have to look at it in this way.
All you do in life,since the very second you wake up in the morning its just following your plan that you had set before you are born...
For those who will have only a wife or husband,you can consider they learn a bit slower,so for them having only one life partner will be enough.But as i said it depends on the individual.

As for the end of the mind---that is a very simple thing to understand,people for most of the time they are just fantasizing and deluding themselves their mind has no end but trust me its not like that at all.
All you have to do is look around you,at your neighbors,city and country and you will understand what i mean.They are driven in life by the reflection of their mind and they act acordingly to it.Why do they go bankrupt,because they are smart ??? NO,but because they are not.
The majority of the pupulation defines the value of a country,so when a country goes bankrupt---there you have the clear answer,its inhabitants are clearly not the smartest creatures crawling on the face of the earth...
The same aplyes to businesses,they go dead not because their mind has no end,but because most of them cannot even see clearly what will happen next week and are very limited...
There are structures in the society,WHY ? because the mind is endless ?
No,but because the mind can sometimes barely function.
The one that cleans the toilets in a restaurant do you think he has a endless mind ???
NO he does not,he just deludes himself and fantasizing every day in his life. His work just reflects his level of understanding and his very limited mind...
A hard core scientist that deals with very precise sets of data and interactions between complex systems is a diferent story there as he can perceive things from a much higher level.
So in conclusion all you have to do is to get more and more and more experience in your life and eventualy you will become one of the top brains that run this world,but it does not mean you can acomplish that in the next 20 lives and i mean it.
If that is what you desire,than i can set you on that road,all you have to do is follow it...if you will have the strenght and passion to get to the end,i do not know,but i can guide you and you can see for yourself...
So in my case i express my Venus by sharing information with you freely,can you call that love ??? sure you can...it can take many ways of expression...

posted February 13, 2013 01:11 PM              

I will go back and respond to the questions on your thread, but wanted to say things here too

I actually always have wanted to learn more about sidereal astrology, but have really only looked online and haven't been able to find much info so books are a good suggestion..

As for the guy, yes intellectually I understand that we were supposed to come together in this life to learn from one another, which we have, but that doesn't mean it's going to last or that it should.. Emotionally though part of me just feels like giving up honestly, mainly just because all of these "lessons" are getting really exhausting and the thought of moving forward into even more mistakes or heartbreak is something I don't know if I want to do. Although I do understand it's so much bigger than that and all these experiences are necessary for growth when looking at the larger perspective..

Also what you said about the information being "distorted" makes sense, sometimes I feel like we are so close to really breaking through to something but it's just slipping through our fingers..

As for what you said about my placements- what house system does sidereal use? You're right I didn't change it and I believe sidereal uses whole signs? If so, 9th house ruler is still Aqua, but Saturn is actually in my 8th house along with NN and Venus. Jupiter would still be in my 2nd house. Anyway, you are right about needing structure to progress smoothly, and what I'm drawn to in relationships..

Thanks for the compliments though, and for offering to help clarify things

My birthday is January 11th 1991, Minneapolis MN, 4:23 PM. I'd love to hear your thoughts on my chart

As for your second post..

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Originally posted by Inquisitor: If you are designed to have 3 husbands and 2 lovers outside of your mariages,do you really think you can do something else ???
You are not a phisical body experiencing life---you are life experiencing a temporary phisical body

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I see what you're saying, but I don't know if I believe that every action we take has already been planned out.. Maybe we all have pre-destined lessons we need to learn in order to evolve, and the universe will force us to experience things that get us there one way or another, but I'd like to think we have at least some choice as to which routes we take..

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Originally posted by Inquisitor: You are a part from The Larger Consciousness System which is aparently infinite but finite by its laws of definition

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I understand what you mean about having a "higher self", and being a part of this larger system, but could you elaborate on what you mean by infinite and finite at the same time?

And about the end of the mind- I do agree there is a huuuge difference between someone who cannot even retain complex information or comprehend abstract concepts and someone who spends their life analyzing such things.. My point was just that I wouldn't want to get into a relationship with someone who was already expecting to outgrow me someday. There's more to it than intellect and the mind.. It's the rest that I already have a hard enough time understanding

As for society, I believe that people are born into a system (mainly an economic one, which gives rise to political "power", and influences social conditions), that now has all parts of the world entangled in its web. It's a system built to fail, but that doesn't matter to those benefiting from it now, or those stuck in cycles of dependency

Yes, people are extremely ignorant, humans can be led like sheep without wanting to see what's really happening as long as they're content for the time being. But hegemonic discourses that benefit those in power trickle down into all parts of society, limiting the mobility of even those who do understand what's going on. It's human nature to try to find stability, and when people feel trapped they'll do what's necessary even if it will end up sabotaging them in the end (granted, many people don't even realize this) but it's like a person drowning who will eventually breath in water out of instinct even if it means death.. Just to throw in a dramatic analogy lol. If we all woke up at the same time yes maybe we could change things, but it would take a re-working of the entire structural framework of the power dynamics in place..

posted February 13, 2013 11:38 PM            

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OK Firemoon i am back to you with some news ,i know you were waiting for me...
Honestly i do not even know what should i tell you first,the good news or the bad ones...
I will take the bad ones first and i will give you selective ideas of what you will encounter in your quest in this life.
I do not like to hide things from people,because i like to keep my consciousness very clean so i will tell you that the amount of troubles you will have in your life will be almost unbearable for you.
You have so many troubles in your chart that it will take me a long time to describe them to you,but i do not like to do this on a public internet forum,i hope you understand my reasons...
You will run exactly into the troubles you are afraid of as far as your family will be concerned in the future.You will find trouble where you do not expect.Your entire life will be centred around 5,6,7th house and just a bit on the first.
The reason is that you have very wrong placements of superior planets which they should not be below the horizon if you want them to be expressed properly.In your case all of them are below.You have a pluto in 5th which is something it will eat your life as far as the children are concerned.You will have children but you wish you never had them,they will make your life a living hell.
You will also have health troubles,some of them of the most obscure and bizare kind as your neptune is in 6th showing complications which are hard to discover and treat.
The rest is related to your 7th house.You will do exactly what you are afraid your husband will do---to look outside of your relationship/family.
There will be so much coloration and dicomfort that eventuly you will have to look out of it because it will stimultate you diferent.
Your income with be related with your partner and viceversa but at the end from his part you will not get much and that will be vary late in your late years of life.
Remeber one thing---relationships start always with flowers around and end up with a funeral.
Now,i do not judge you for things you will do in the future of finding comfort outside of you family,because i am more open minded than that,but i do have to tell you one thing---if you are looking to satisfy your curiosity,do that for your own growth and not comfort,look for something that will give you answers to your questions,not for somthing that will increase the amount of troubles and questions---remember,quality and then quantity.
Try not to harm those who you will encounter in your life trough your interaction because it will be very hard on your consciounsness to clean that after !!!
I can keep going like this but i will stop here because i know somehow you got the sense of it already...this is just a small paragraph ...

For books please look here and download what you can.Wait for them to load because they are big books...
http://www.astrologiamedieval.com/e-Books.htm

If you want a good software to work with please go here and download that one,which is free but very good in calculations.It make no sense for you to spend 1000 $ now just to get started,you can spend that later if you like...Just set it on sideral and equal houses.
http://www.zaytsev.com/

About infinity,sure i will develop that for you---infinity is an abstraction that does not belong to real systems,its a mathematical abstract,it has no roots in reality.
These kind of infinite ideas of love and peace and other similar ideas appeared from the minds of those who are not realy focused to bring arguments to their afirmations and through the histor the notion got very distorted.
Infiny cannot exist in reality in any kind of virtual of phisical reality or in any other world.
Infinite systems require infinite amount of time to be controled when you change their integral states.It requires infinite amount of control which cannot be provided out of nothing.
Infinity is mostly used by people who do not deal with real hard core science,mostly only fantasy from wonderland...
You can understand the concept of infinity in this way, by placing yourself between 2 mirrors that are facing each other,so either way you look you will never see the end---but that does not mean that is real,its an abstraction of the real you.
The larger counsciousness system is huge,beyond our comprehension.Our time is not fundamental,is a construct, placed upon this reality to conceal what lies beyond.Our Univers in its totality is but a small atom from something so big that you cannot possibly imagine.People that deal with the notion of infinity are not very well grounded and they are speculating mostly,religions to begin with...
The fundamental quanta of time is 10 at the power of 36 which is exactly this (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ) its also called undecillion ,so calculate that if you can---in 1 second from our time, the fundamental clock changes 1 undecillion faster,if you can understand what i said.It has to be like that so that this world can be controled from utside.Our reality is a sub set of a much bigger superset from the big totality.Our reality is a construct,a necesity of evolution,a learning school if you like.But its not fundamentaly of great value as far as the creation and the big picture is concerned.It may only look infinite because is beyond understanding but its not.Nothing real is infinite.Have a look at this video and if you like you can watch more from there...He is a friend of mine,we are exchanging ideas sometimes for another project i am working on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoqgeInmStw

If you can wrap your mind around that big number, you have a good chance to meet me one day... huh...its a good begening...

I gave you much info to think about in just 2 days so take your time and understand it properly...

I get the feeling that you started to like my Venus...that is a good thing.Its because a good converstation it comforts you...but take advantage of this as i will not be here for very long...

posted February 14, 2013 10:49 AM            

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Lol well I won't really respond in depth right now but that is all super comforting.. ^^ that is exactly why I've said most of my life I never want to get married or have a family, because I don't want to repeat any of the things I went through growing up or live through those fears.

Weird health problems, yes. I usually have no issues but out of the blue I got a kidney infection at age 18, which then turned into pneumonia from the treatment (they were giving me more water than my body could process and my lungs literally started filling up with fluid), followed by congestive heart failure.. I actually almost died not just being dramatic, but I have not been severely sick since or before that.. And as far as my troubles being "unbearable".. yes, they already have been. It takes a lot to push through the way I feel at times, but I continue to do it. If that is some sort of karmic punishment, then I'll continue to carry it because I don't have any other choices, I won't leave the family I have now in an extremely selfish way such as suicide even though that is not a new thought to me..

Very humble of you to say I might have a "chance" at meeting you some day, but I highly doubt that will happen. I don't know what your chart is like, but since you consider yourself to be so evolved, it must be very special..

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Do not be upset please as i can sense that even if you are 20 hours of driving away from me !

Its complicated Firemoon,very complicated to look at things through my eyes and be in my mind---reality has a different structure and does not function the same.

That's why initially i did not wanted to say anything about your chart because i knew you would feel bad.I do not do things like others do and i do not tell people what they like to hear,i tell them the reality because they need to understand it very well,its essential.

I know how you feel when you read my words because i know very well what it produces in your mind and being,even if you try to hide that a little...you cannot...

You cannot leave your family even if you think you can---it does not function in that way,those who commit suicide they have it in their chart and when those points are influenced by transits,they will go bye bye...

Few questions for you---what would you do if you would have a husband like me,assuming that there is a great difference between our structures ???
How would you stand the idea that your partner is so alien ???

About my chart---no, i do not have any squares or oppositions if you can believe that.I have mostly trines,sextiles, one deadly conjunction and 2 planets with no aspects to the rest,but they are nicely placed...

I was making a joke by saying if you can wrap your mind around that big number,you have a chance to meet me one day.Now the problem is,assuming that is true and would be a life necessity for you,how do you think that will change or improve your perspective ???
With me around you things can get reeeeealy out of control as far your own structural integrity is concerned,so what would you do in that case ???

Now that you know and sense there is something you like,how will you look at things in your own life when you know something else lies outside of your reach,something that appears so alien and illusory to your reality ???
Be honest,don't be shy,as i know the answer already...i knew it after you wrote to me the first proposition...that's why i gave you so much info...

posted February 14, 2013 02:59 PM            

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I will give some details about what was the purpose of my interaction.
I told you that i was working on a project.I am trying to integrate the whole art of astrology into a much bigger system and i needed some factors that could gave me answers to some of my questions.My questions were not designed for nobody in particular,they were designed for people in general.Each question has a value number which helps me to understand certain things.
So as i said in the begining i needed to see how people understand complex patterns(which they did not) as far as the astrology is concerned.How they react when a new stimulus is placed in a equation(how much randomness exist) and how much entropy(disorder) an individual has.In other words,how predictible people are acording to their own charts(which reduce the amount of free will they think they have).
My last questions for you were about the same thing,they were designed to make me understand certain aspects of reality and where exactly lies the weakest link from the system as far as someone's chart is concerned.
People are highly predictible.If you have the right data and if you aply it corectly you can derive everthing you like if you realy understand how the system works.So if the right stimulus is aplied to individuals acording to their rule set(chart) they will do exactly what you want them to do.

The questions you did not understood,are not important as long as you could not see their meaning,do not stress yourself for that.
From the results of my calculations,i can say that your life can be precisely described and derived from a single but complex mathematical formula if your birth data is acurate...if you like to have the idea of "free will" like being free,i don't mind,but i just explained to you above how much free will you have in fact.Do not fall into comun belief traps for they will always stop you to see the bigger picture.
You are still young and you have time to understand more but stay away if you can from beliefs of all kinds,discover your own truth if you can.Beliefs are a distortion of reality.
And because you were honest with me i gave you the info you wanted so you can understand your life better.

posted August 08, 2015 03:36 AM            

First love sun in gem
Venus gem.. He could just not stay faithfull and he thought it was normal to be this way.

Sun Taurus venus gem he could not stop flirting with other girls and thought it was harmless.. I left hi. Cus I know he's the type of guy who will sleep with another girl and be like oops.

There is a third one with cancer sun who fallows me around . And he has a gf!

posted August 08, 2015 03:22 PM            

Venus also represents what we find attractive and alluring.

When in Gemini,this may represent that one's code of ethics is subject to influences and many changes.

This person may be more "open-minded" and less rigid about preferences etc. Indeed, many Venus in Gemini people that I know, are bisexual.

Venus in Gemini also suggests that when it comes to physical appearance,these people tend to be drawn to all types;shapes and sizes.

But the common thing with all the types they are drawn to,is that that special someone usually has a distinct twinkle in their eye.

There is something playful,chatty and a little mischievous about the people that they find "sexy".

So think more Chris Pratt "poke fun at yourself" sexy,than "brawny" and more serious-looking Chris Hemsworth.

Venus in Gemini is seldom attracted to "heaviness". And prefers laughter to all that deep emotional connection stuff.

They think that love should be fun, interesting and even casual.Free from drama and strong on variety

I have dated 3 so far. Each with differing Sun signs and my Mars in Libra responds to their light-heated approach to love very much.

I don't stay with them unfortunately, because my Venus in Scorpio tends towards "heaviness". Which puts them off eventually.

If you play hard to get now and then and keep them guessing, Venus in Gemini stays intrigued.

Sometimes they will come upon something else that they find more "interesting" at that specific time. And forget all about you. But this seldom lasts permanently.

If you take this into consideration and are not the type to be insecure or jealous when they are taken by the next pretty face. You may survive being with them.

If you prefer more faithfulness and complete and utter devotion to you and only you, you may get disappointed.

With Venus in Gemini,there is always something more interesting,more fun,prettier, smarter etc "out there" than what they've known. And they cannot resist going after it when it crosses their path.

The older the Venus in Gemini gets or the more they have experienced however, the more they come to realize that the grass is NOT usually greener on the other side. And those types can be unbelievably faithful.

But even with that being said, they can never truly rid themselves of that cheeky grin. Or need to "see what is out there"

So watch and smile when they flirt with the waiter/waitress when you two dine out

posted August 09, 2015 06:59 PM            

One dude I know is a Leo sun and he keeps girls of all backgrounds, beliefs, mental states and sizes on a string so they can boost his ego and make him feel like a Casanova.

The other Venus in Gemini guy I know is a Gemini sun and my old friend's Aquarius little brother came running to us one day saying, "Duuuudddee, so-&-so and I were chilling and he just like...don't tell anyone, but he went in for a kiss on the lips. I was like 'WWHHOOOAAAA!'" TRUE STORY.

The other Venus in Gemini guy I know of is pretty terrible and he plays too much and I once walked past him as he was saying, "I wasn't sure if she was a guy or a girl, but I was like F it, hahahaha!"

posted September 28, 2016 04:14 AM            

Hmm, my guy is not a player with a big numbers of girls in past. He have slept with only 3 girls in his life. It adds up to 3 times. One with each. I didnt even ever imagine that there exist people in their mid 20's who are like that in our days. (and he is fun and pretty and with nice body, thats why i am in a shock )
Actually I am his first girlfriend. And he said to me that he had some girls he was talking to, chating, but they never got till the sex part, because he usually gets bored of the girls after 2 weeks of talking/communicating with them and dont want to continue nothing with them.
But those 3 girls he had sex with, was just for having sex, one night stands.
He doesnt like to go to clubs or party. He better spend time with his friends in cafes etc, just talking. [of course right? clubs would be too loud for talking, hahah]

Before him I used to thing that I have so much personalities in me, that I cant even understand myself, I am very complex. Maybe that is what got his attention like I have so much personalities in me that he never gets bored. He said to me that the thing he likes about us, is that we can just sit in a room with 4 walls and nothing else in there and he never feels bored.

But maybe it also has to do with the thing that he has Moon in Scorpio (conj North Node in Scorpio), Pluto right beside in Scorpio and Jupiter in Scorpio. I think this scorpio things makes him like to dive deep in him, and he likes that I dive deep in him as well.. Because I dont like superficial things, I always have to dig deep, I cant function any other way. We sometimes laugh that I even try to find something deeper in eating a sandwich. ;D He is very possessive and jealous as well. I think that I am the one bringing out his more scorpionish side (I myself have Venus Retrograde in 8th house), becuse before I knew him, he just seemed as this always fun, joker guy, who likes to be active and happy and talk a lot.