posted May 07, 2012 01:15 PM            

Does a person - especially a woman - attracts her life mostly partners of the sign of the vertex?

I've seen this.

posted May 07, 2012 11:45 PM            

In synastry the Vertex has a 'POW!' type of effect... The person who has their natal Vertex aspected in synastry often experiences the planet/point person as having very memorable, or even life altering, impact on their life path (for better or worse!). The planet/point person is seen as particularly special or interesting from the Vertex person's point of view. Vertex synastry is not always romantic in nature... but when it is it can point towards intense infatuations… As if the planet/point person represents to the Vertex person some exact qualities they’ve always desired in a mate, or didn’t even realize they wanted until the planet/point person came along and rocked the Vertex person’s world….

People who aspect your Vertex tend to have a powerful influence on your way of thinking, important changes in your life, turning your wishes/longings into reality, and ultimately your life direction. This does not, however, guarantee a happy relationship… after all, if you were bullied as a kid, for example, perhaps your experiences strongly influenced your perspective on life… perhaps you were inspired to overcome this experience and succeed at your dreams because of it, and wound up being a martial arts champion… thanks to your bully… who had Mars conjunct your Vertex. People who aspect our Vertex can be like inspiration for us! Depending on the rest of your synastry with that person, it can be in a happy way or a challenging way…

In a romantic sense, they could be the one you fall hard for all of a sudden, and then stay married to for fifty years… or it could be that person who ripped your heart out, and taught you exactly what you don’t want in a relationship… whatever the case, people who aspect your Vertex have an seem to be able to leave their own personal stamp on your psyche, and they are not easily forgotten. The experiences you have with a person strongly aspecting your Vertex are usually meaningful, and feel as if they were meant to happen for some reason…

Also, in romance, the Vertex Axis does have seem to have an ‘idealized’ quality too it… like when you have your Vertex aspected in the context of a romance, that person can feel like they match your fantasies to a scarily accurate degree… like they are the man or women of your dreams, and are precisely your ‘type’…. and even if they are not your usual ‘type‘, there is something about them that intrigues and fascinates you to not end.

Some key words, and phrases, for the type of ‘feeling’ that the Vertex evokes in syanstry are… Turning point, synchronicity, eureka!, profound, inspiring, unforgettable, fated, stands out in my mind, revelation, epiphany, setting things into motion, never the same again, felt like a dream come true, lead me to exactly what I needed, transformed my life, showed me the way…

I’ve noticed that in terms of signs, both the sign on the Vertex and the Anti-vertex tend to function in the above mentioned type of way…. Meaning, that if a person has the sign on the Vertex or the Antivertex strong in their charts, they tend to have a similar ‘Vertex’ type of influence on you. Only if there a no aspects with in about 4 degrees of either side of your Vertex Axis, this influence is much more diluted in nature… kind of like background music that sticks in your mind. Another thing I’ve noticed is that if people have an opposition in their charts involving the signs on your Vertex Axis… they can be particularly influential for you (this includes the Mc/Ic and the Asc/Dsc, as well as planet oppositions)…

Using myself as an example… I have Vertex in Taurus and the Antivertex in Scorpio, I also have Uranus tightly conjunct my Antivertex in Scorpio… I’ve noticed that people with Taurus/Scorpio oppositions in their charts do tend to stand out in my mind…. The same thing with people who have Uranus hard aspects in their charts, especially oppositions… Also, Aquarians (who are ruled by Uranus) tend to stand out to me as well.

If a person’s chart strongly mirrors your Vertex Axis, including mirroring how planets in your natal aspect this axis (like in my example, having Uranus oppose my Vertex, and being intrigued by people with hard Uranus aspects in their chart, and Aquarians), then they too can have a ‘Vertex’ like effect on you.

posted May 08, 2012 04:06 AM            

The word ‘Vertex’ comes from the Latin root word vertere, meaning to change, to turn, turn frequently or spin. The Roman god Vertumnus has also roots in the Latin word vertere… He is said to rule over gardens, fruit trees and seasons (changes), and to have the appearance of an attractive young man. Hence, the Vertex has a mythological connection with the story of Vertumnus and Pomona… A classic Roman love story.

Astrologer Kim Falconer, talks about this mythological connection to the Vertex on her website. I highly recommend her page on the Vertex. Here’s a link… http://www.falconastrology.com/vertex.htm

Anyway, I’ve read several versions of this myth and have decided to take a shot and writing my own summery of it for the sake of simplicity. So with out much ado, here’s a short rendition of the tale… to get the main points of it across.

VERTUMNUS AND POMONA

Apparently, Pomona was a beautiful fruit nymph, who had many admirers. Only she had little interest in men, and lived for tending her garden alone. Then one day Vertumnus, chanced to glimpse her through the gate in the high walls surrounding the garden that Pomona lived in…. Upon seeing how fine she was, he was captivated and fell madly in love with her, more so then any of her other admirers.

From that day forth, Vertumnus would disguise himself to enter Pomona’s garden as various different personalities just so he could be near her. Pomona had built the high wall around her garden to keep out pesky would-be admirers, so Vertumnus never revealed his true identity during his visits. Continuously, Vertumnus pursued Pomona in this way. He appeared before her every day in a different guise, until a time came when he could no longer bear to only love Pomona from afar…

So one day Vertumnus approached Pomona disguised as an old women selling fruit. When Pomona saw the harmless old women she let her into the garden, and was surprised when the old woman began kissing her. Vertumnus, seeing Pomona’s stunned reaction, then stopped kissing her and an interesting conversation took place. The ‘old women’ started to try and convince Pomona, through logic, that she aught to consider the value of love and intimacy in her life. This was done using various different arguments. Yet Pomona remained unconvinced. The ‘old women’ then directly referenced Vertumnus, telling of how she knew that he loved Pomona ardently, and would love no other then Pomona, and that he would make a fine match for her…

Even after this, Pomona still remained unconvinced of opening her heart to love. Finally, in a last desperate attempt to gain Pomona’s favor, Vertumnus dropped his disguise as an old women, revealing his true appearance as a beautiful male youth and stood naked before her. In that moment the beauty of Vertumnus’s true form took Pomona’s breath away, like the glory of the Sun when the clouds have parted. She found herself falling in love with him, returning the ardent passion that he felt. Pomona then at last surrendered her heart and ran into Vertumnus’s arms. Later they got married. Both of them taking up residence in Pomona’s garden and where they have stayed together, still in love, tending the fruit side by side…

Wasn’t that a sweet story!

If you’re interested in reading a couple of other versions of the myth here’s a few I found on the net…
http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/omw/omw43.htm
This version of the myth is quite detailed, and even discusses the other men, apart form Vertumnus that admired Pomona.
http://ffjh.davis.k12.ut.us/thompson/myths/ehmyth20/POMONA.HTM
This version is short and to the point.

On her Vertex page Kim Falconer makes this point…“The theme of this myth centers on a seemingly chance moment where an outstanding event occurs. To Pomona, it was like an epiphany, a sudden turn of fate, a radical awakening of perception. To Vertumnus, it was at first a well planned strategy, then finally an act of spontaneous desperation. Imagine his surprise when Pomona finally received him!”

My take on this is that usually, in synastry, the person with their Vertex aspected plays the symbolic role of Vertumnus. While the planet/point person usually plays Pomona’s role… Meaning that, most commonly, the Vertex person experiences some type of instant recognition of, or attraction to, the planet/point person. And consequently develops a fascination with them… The planet/point person may remain oblivious to the Vertex person’s attention for quite some time. Until eventually a moment of ‘reckoning’ comes and the planet/point person is astonished to discover the full extent of the Vertex person’s regard for them. This is primarily in romantic situations, and has to do with secret crushes being revealed and that sort of thing. But it can also apply to other relationships… Like if you have a teacher aspecting your Vertex in syanstry, perhaps they didn’t realize the full extent of the influence that they had on you, until years later when you wrote them a letter thanking them for their guidance.

Also, sometimes in synastry the roles do get reversed, and the Vertex person ‘plays’ Pomona and the planet/point person ‘plays’ Vertumnus. Don’t ask me why, but every now and then astrological synastry aspects will ‘flip the script’, form the usual expected turn of events… This happens with non-Vertex aspects too. Like, sometimes in a Venus/Uranus aspect, Uranus will shock and surprise Venus in the area of love and affection… And then, at other times Venus will shock and surprise Uranus. After all, Venus is aspecting that part of the other person's chart which rules ’the unexpected’… If you catch my drift.

Also, if two people mutually aspect each other’s Vertex, they may both instantly recognize each other as ‘special’ in some way. How fast the relationship develops after this depends on how bold each person is on an individual level.

Interestingly, I know of a real life celebrity example of this type of Vertex synastry. The celebrity couple Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes…

Katie Holmes’ birth time is known, and she has her Vertex at 12 degrees of Capricorn, opposite Tom Cruise’s Sun at 11 degrees of Cancer…

Okay, from what I’ve read in articles and such when Katie Holmes was a girl she saw the movie ‘Top Gun’ starring Tom. She became so infatuated with him after seeing this movie, that she used to fantasize that she’d marry he someday… (you can see where this is going). Years later she admitted during an interview with Seventeen magazine that Tom Cruise had been a celebrity crush of hers, and that she used to think she was going to marry him… Well, as fate would have it, supposedly Mr. Cruise found out about this interview, and it set his wheels turning. He arranged to me Katie under the vague notion that it was for a ‘project’, and they really hit it off.

The rest is history. They fell in love and got married. There was the incident when Tom declared his love for Katie, jumping up and down on a couch during OPRAH, and she seemed to be just fine with his Scientology weirdness (not sure I would be, but hey, it’s her life).

Getting back to the astrology of it. Tom Cruise’s Sun opposed Katie Holmes Vertex… In this case she is Vertumnus. She had a fantasy of him for a long time before he even realized she was alive. Until he found about that fateful interview with Seventeen magazine, he never thought about pursuing her. Once faced with the revelation, however, he had a ‘Pomona’ type reaction to Katie’s charms (A romantic Eureka! moment so to speak), and took action … And there you have it, couplehood!

What is Vertex synastry? Any planet (especially personal planets) or point within orb of aspecting the Vertex can indicate an attraction. Conjunctions and oppositions are the most potent but other aspects have an effect as well (even trines, sextiles, and semi-squares). It may also be worth taking into account both of the rulers of the Vertex and the Antivertex signs, the same way you’d look at the rulers of the Mc/Ic or the Dsc/Asc. The Vertex and the Antivertex do both seem to play an inseparable role in relationships or encounters that feel ‘fated’ or meant to be.

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posted May 08, 2012 01:16 PM            

I have recently seen how powerful is the Vertex point. It shows up on all natal charts. If a person’s planet hits your Vertex, the person will BRING you what that planet represents. ( It would be true for an asteroid, too.) For example, if someones Neptune hit your Vertex, that person would bring you spirituality. If someone’s Venus hit your Vertex, that person would bring you love. If someone’s Chiron hit your Vertex, that person would bring you pain. If someone’s Nessus hit your Vertex, that person may bring you abuse.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:22 PM            

I find the Vertex to be important, but interestingly have not observed that the partner will have their Sun in the Vertex-sign of the other person.
My own Vertex is in Cancer, and this is one of the signs I am really not into. (no offense).
The Vertex usually plays a role in different ways for me.
Verteces in conjunction for example. Or Vertex aspecting Moon, Venus, Mars, Pluto, though usually not in conjunction (my Sag Stellium can`t do much with Cancer-planets).

My Vertex however is part of two configurations:

Hammer of Thor/ Fist of God:
Vertex exactly square Chiron sesisquare Mars

sort of T-square

Vertex (and Eros) on 21 Cancer opposite Sun/Moon-mp on 21 Capricorn squaring Chiron on 20 Aries,

posted May 08, 2012 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Excellent input on the vertex Lotis White! And for the record, No, I dont think we attract people because of the sign of our vertex, that is waay to general.

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I would have to agree with this.

The short answer is ‘no’, having the sign alone strong in the other person’s chart is not enough for an important attraction to occur.

Yes, we often do attract people of the sign of the Vertex (AND the Antivertex) into our lives when it’s time for some type of meaningful change of direction in our path… people who influence our Vertex tend to shape our perceptions in life…. But to say that having the sign alone strong in the other person’s chart, with out actual aspect connections, is enough to generate an attraction is false…

With my own example, yes I’m attracted to people with Taurus and/or Scorpio combos in their charts. These folks do seem especially interesting to me for some reason, but such a person is not likely to be pivotal in my life unless they actually aspect my Vertex by degree… I may admire them form a distance or think that they are outstanding in some way, but unless there is actual synastry by degree there I probably wouldn’t interact with them on a personal level. Synastry aspects are what allow us to ‘feel’ that energy coming from the other person in our day to day reality. Synastry aspects allow us to get up close and personal.

So, no, I’d say a sign connection alone is not enough. However, the signs on either side of the Vertex Axis do describe, in general, the type of people who will ’rock your world’ throughout your life. Just like the Dsc is said to describe our partners in general, and the Asc is said to describe our persona in general, the Vertex Axis describes who will be our personal ’GAME CHANGERS’ in life.

posted May 08, 2012 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I agree with Lotiswhite`s interpretation.

I find the Vertex to be important, but interestingly have not observed that the partner will have their Sun in the Vertex-sign of the other person.
My own Vertex is in Cancer, and this is one of the signs I am really not into. (no offense).
The Vertex usually plays a role in different ways for me.
Verteces in conjunction for example. Or Vertex aspecting Moon, Venus, Mars, Pluto, though usually not in conjunction (my Sag Stellium can`t do much with Cancer-planets).

My Vertex however is part of two configurations:

Hammer of Thor/ Fist of God:
Vertex exactly square Chiron sesisquare Mars

sort of T-square

Vertex (and Eros) on 21 Cancer opposite Sun/Moon-mp on 21 Capricorn squaring Chiron on 20 Aries,

And these degrees are often triggered, but usually the planets are in Libra, sometimes Sagittarius, Capricorn or Pisces. (I have a definite affinity for my own hemisphere and therefore for the signs from Virgo/Libra to Aries).

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How's it going Ceridwen!

I was just thinking about the Vertex Axis rulers. What has been your experience with the Moon and Saturn? Vertex wise, I mean?

posted May 09, 2012 05:43 AM            

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Originally posted by LaGuinda:
Thank you BUT I don't wanna know about synastry, I wanna know about NATAL VERTEX SIGN and if you attract this sign into your life...

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posted May 09, 2012 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by LaGuinda:

Does a person - especially a woman - attracts her life mostly partners of the sign of the vertex?

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posted November 30, 2012 09:21 PM            

I attract men with Suns, Venus, Mars, or Moon in either Sagittarius and/or Aquarius more than any other combination. Usually men with a planet to one of either node (South Node in SAG or Vertex in AQUA). ---- Sometimes to E.Point as well ~ (usually Moons)
Never to DSC Node or North Node.

- my experience thus far...

Edit - to add: My husbands Sun is 5 deg cnj my Venus/SN conjunction~ his Mars cnjs my Vertex node~

posted December 01, 2012 05:13 AM            

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Originally posted by LaGuinda:

What do you think about the sign of the vertex?

Does a person - especially a woman - attracts her life mostly partners of the sign of the vertex?

I've seen this.

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I think this is true, actually. But it isn't relegated to just one gender.