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Thefish
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posted May 15, 2012 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thefish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wisely,

Neither looks to be long term to me.

When I looked at the composites I see a lot of suceedent and cadent houses being represented and not too mucb in the angular house.

You do have a love stellum with girl #1 but I see powerplays in there with moon squared by pluto and jupiter and mars being squared jupiter and pluto.

Pluto is also very strong being in its native scorpio and its also in the seventh house.

Both the moon and mars are in the tenth which which to me suggests that the power plays will be about emotions/nuturing and actions in the career spectrum.

With girl #2

Things are even wilder with Sun and mars saturn with saturn in its natural home of capricorn.

The Sun is in the 9th but closing on the tenth which suggests issues regarding travels and also career versus duty/obligation to the day to day/work related issues

Mars is in the third house in libra which suggests communcation/action issues regarding day to day/work related issues.

Not only is that there we also see neptune being squared by both the sun and mars which suggests deceit regarding both aforementioned areas.

Venus is inconjunct uranus implying wildy erratic love realtionship.

Now from a non-astrology standpoint and being an older man I'd suggest you play the field for 4-5 years at least as there is no point to get serious at this point. You're barely 24. Play the field and learn more about what you personally like and what is good for you as opposed to what you think you want.

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IndigoDirae
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posted May 15, 2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, if I'm going to be serious here, despite the OBVIOUS BS metre's needle breaking - I'm going to say this.

I agree that Chica #1 is your twinflame. Good job. I have NO idea how to advise you in that respect, because I've just NOW gotten to a point in my life (seven! years!) to where my own and I can actually have an honest relationship.

If you marry Chica #2, (a companion soul, much like my husband) I'd suggest you have an open marriage. If you love each other, and she's down with that, then expect that some people (apparently, myself included) have a difficult time being tied down - and if you really ARE in showbiz, I'd highly, highly recommend this consideration.

I swear, it's the only thing that's going to get me through my career out here in Hollyweird.

That's my advice. Don't lose touch with your twinflame, though. It's like losing an appendage. (Which should give a pretty clear indicator of how connected that relationship ALWAYS is. It's not going anywhere. You have to cut it off - and THAT's painful, and unnatural.)

Best of luck, in either case.

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Hera
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posted May 15, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ghanima81:
ad,

I would like to respond because I am always a person that will defend (whether or not I am asked to or even in the right) somebody I feel was being attacked. I'm sure he didn't give a toss, but I personally didn't want him to feel that way and bugger off becuase he may have felt that way. A lot of people are sensitive and what may be honest "joking around" can seem meanspirited, especially online when there is no sense of tone. I see in this instance he has a sense of humor about it.

A few years ago, there was a LOT of negativity from the Astro forum, newbies feeling belittled and treated badly by other members. I'm sure you remember, as I think you have been around for a while.

Yes, I'm sure the astrologers feel annoyed by certain questions that may seem mundane to them, and other personalities will add their two cents about a persons posting style, and feelings can get hurt.

Me personally, I don't like it. I don't like to see teasing or ridiculing on this forum, especially people that are new here.

If it's all in good fun, fair enough. I actually saw that you said you were joking around.

I saw it one way, and if I was mistaken, I apologize. There are BIG personalities here. Some are never questioned for making statements that will come from another poster who will then be attacked for saying them.

Just watching backs, I guess.

No offense.


Oh, you probably mean me. Yes, I came on to him a bit strongly. For you it's newbies being teased, for me it's arrogance and superiority (to women in this case) that rub me the wrong way. I guess you could say that I have their back. Or are they not important because they're not members here? Am I supposed to say nothing if I see something wrong, look the other way?
Every action has consequences. The OP should know that arrogance attracts a certain amount of disapproval. If he didn't want that, he should have addressed differently.
Believe it or not, I was trying to help too. I see an incorrect attitude towards women and I think it is the seed of his misfortune and the misfortune he will bring onto his partener and his kids. If you don't like my tone, boohoo. I didn't like his either. I was actually serious about therapy. I find his attitude unhealthy.

But whatever. I've been a member here since 2006 and don't remember starting trouble here ever. I don't have time or energy to argue with anyone online and don't quite see the point. I'd like to keep it that way.

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posted May 15, 2012 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

If you marry Chica #2, (a companion soul, much like my husband) I'd suggest you have an open marriage. If you love each other, and she's down with that, then expect that some people (apparently, myself included) have a difficult time being tied down - and if you really ARE in showbiz, I'd highly, highly recommend this consideration.

I swear, it's the only thing that's going to get me through my career out here in Hollyweird.

That's my advice. Don't lose touch with your twinflame, though. It's like losing an appendage. (Which should give a pretty clear indicator of how connected that relationship ALWAYS is. It's not going anywhere. You have to cut it off - and THAT's painful, and unnatural.)



That's weird advice. People in an open marriage are fooling themselves, and this is coming from someone with Moon-Juno in Aqua (which screams unconventional relationships - which does NOT mean sacrificing my own emotional needs to make life convenient for some guy!).

OP, if you're feeling torn between these two options, neither of them are right for you. Do everyone a favor and let them both go. I assure you, they will be fine.

If it just HAS to be one of these two, then the "companion soul." You can spend your earthly life with her and make each other happy. I'm sure you can just meet up with your "twin flame" on the astral plane or watever...

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ghanima81
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posted May 15, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it's not just "newbies being bullied" which I was standing up for. I saw ONE SENTENCE of his comments made people jump all over him. I read that sentence to mean that he would make her the happiest girl on earth by treating her very well and loving her intensely. I believe he was patronizing you in his second comment based on what you said to him, so clearly he had a sense of humor about it.

My jump to defend really is not just about this thread completely, but when a newer member here sees how somebody genuinely asking for help is ridiculed, especially by older members, it may indeed put them off. I saw this as an example.

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ghanima81
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posted May 15, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I hijacked your thread, btw.

I agree with the above in regards to being torn. If you can't make a decision, then neither is right for you. When it's right, there IS NOT CHOICE.

Good luck to you!

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posted May 15, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would pick neither....I agree with others on this one. You're young still and you have plenty of time.

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IndigoDirae
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posted May 15, 2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wisleybear:
It was her failure to understand this^ even after a year and a half that made her decide to trainwreck our relationship

BTW, my costar is a Sun-Moon-Merc in Sag with Ven-Mars in Aqu. He's also a standup comedian. I can't TELL you how much 'thicker' my skin's gotten since we started working together. Good GOD.

Now he's just hysterical. It's really no wonder why his character keeps getting compared to RDJ's Tony Stark. I'm masterful at taking it for the biting wit it is and not getting offended. But it's ... a learnt skill.

My husband has moods like this, but being Gemini-Sag with Cancer Venus-Merc, his wit is less brusque, I think. Hard to describe. People compare him to Duchovny a lot for this reason.

It's my costar that gets all the flak for the outrageous things he says, but my husband manages to be seen as playful. It's actually caused my costar to try and tame his act over time, which led to some serious creative difficulties.

If you got it, if THAT's how you are, then you NEED to just BE that way. (He's got similar placements to Izzard, actually.)

BUT ... try and keep SOME sort of diplomacy going on. Both of them suffer foot-in-mouth and no tact. (No offence to the Saggie Moons here. I love you guys, but boy, do you keep my life interesting.)

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Hera
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posted May 15, 2012 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ghanima81:
No, it's not just "newbies being bullied" which I was standing up for. I saw ONE SENTENCE of his comments made people jump all over him. I read that sentence to mean that he would make her the happiest girl on earth by treating her very well and loving her intensely.

Read the rest. Look at his chart.

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ghanima81
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posted May 15, 2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wisleybear:
It was her failure to understand this^ even after a year and a half that made her decide to trainwreck our relationship
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Read above.

Miscommunication all around perhaps?

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posted May 15, 2012 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not unless there's monetary compensation :P

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Thefish
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posted May 15, 2012 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thefish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose I took it with a grain of salt but then again I'm

1) a male
2) mercury in aquarius
3) and capricorn is my chart ruler so dead pan humor is up my alley.

Either way I'm not sure how one could take it seriously. Granted, it's not how I roll but to each his own.

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posted May 15, 2012 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Read above.

Miscommunication all around perhaps?


Perhaps but I doubt it. My chart makes a lot of close aspects to his chart. Including Mercuries sextile.

EDIT: I did consider the possibility that he may be joking about it and that his initial comment was that he wants to make her the happiest girl in the world. I think he may have intended it to sound like a joke, but it has a root in reality - or at least his chart. Starting with his Moon in fall in Scorpio, afflicted and on Martial Nodes, continuing with Venus in detriment, afflicted - especially by Saturn which can give men an intolerant attitude towards women and misogynism and finishing with his Asc/DC axis T-squared with the luminaries, all fixed.

Tell me this doesn't creep you out even a little bit - and please read it objectively.

quote:
You sound like my ex, minutes before she would randomly get hit by cars/attacked by random mexicans/freak accident hospital trip back in March that she still won't tell me about.

Which of course I didn't have any direct involvement in (I'm 'nice').


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posted May 15, 2012 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like girl #1 for him, but my issue is that I think with exes, 9 times out of 10 it didn't work out for a reason. If you didn't love each other enough to fight for it even want you wanted to murder one another, she's probably not the one.

I also suggest you ignore the person who said you can't have a serious girlfriend until you're 30. That's backhanded advice. Basically, he thinks you're too immature to handle a real relationship.

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posted May 15, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lotus_flower:
If you truly believe someone is your twin flame, then you will be with them before all others--once you've met them, your life changes!

Someone wrote before that a "person, is a person" and that is so true! We have a spirit first....charts just give a bit more clarification for our journey here.

Go with your intuition!!


I'll second that it changes your life - but not that you 'will be with them above all others'. Sometimes, outstanding karma makes that not the best option - and then it's just chaos and complication thereafter.

Personal experience.

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posted May 15, 2012 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
[B]For you it's newbies being teased, for me it's arrogance and superiority (to women in this case) that rub me the wrong way. I guess you could say that I have their back. Or are they not important because they're not members here? Am I supposed to say nothing if I see something wrong, look the other way?

YOU, Hera? With THAT username? Never ....

Props, by the way. I'm a fan of sticking up for what one believes, and you've earned that moniker of yours, from what I can tell.

-A.


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ghanima81
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posted May 15, 2012 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually had no idea what he meant by that, except to think that perhaps she was a bit of a princess due to other comments he made such as "I hated her before I met her". and "can you guess why?" Who knows, really, but I CERTAINLY did not deem it "pshcyopathic" in such a knee jerk fashion. Why don't you simply ASK him what he meant rather then form an opinion and jump? Just an honest question.

I do find it hilarious that we are all posting so much on this thread. I picture this wileybear smirking his head off atm getting so much "press"

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posted May 15, 2012 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see why Hera was offended.

That comment about women was not very nice. A swift kick in the ass was well in order. After all, people always objective to "man-hating" on this site so why not the reverse??

Having said that, I see the humour [in the poor taste]. I wouldn't keep kicking the proverbial ass.

I dunno, pay me no mind. I have too much Libra influence in my chart, lol.

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Odette
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posted May 15, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amowls -

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I think that was sarcastic humor. I don't think he was serious.

That's what I thought.


Thefish -

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I suppose I took it with a grain of salt but then again I'm
1) a male

I'm a female!!!!!!!

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posted May 15, 2012 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted May 15, 2012 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:

Mi Tarzan U Jane! Lmao

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Hera
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posted May 15, 2012 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I dunno, pay me no mind. I have too much Libra influence in my chart, lol.

Lol. No worries. I have too much fire, it seems.

quote:
Originally posted by ghanima81:
I actually had no idea what he meant by that, except to think that perhaps she was a bit of a princess due to other comments he made such as "I hated her before I met her". and "can you guess why?" Who knows, really, but I CERTAINLY did not deem it "pshcyopathic" in such a knee jerk fashion. Why don't you simply ASK him what he meant rather then form an opinion and jump? Just an honest question.

I didn't say he's a psychopath, I said what he wrote sounded psychopathic. He has some hints, from what he wrote, yes. That's why I suggested professional help. They can make a proper diagnosis.
I didn't ask because his attitude annoyed me (please note that I said "his attitude", "what he wrote" etc and not "he/him"), pure and simple. He makes too many conjunctions/oppositions to my chart to be able to ignore this like other obnoxious posts. Either way, everyone here made assumptions about what he meant, not just me.

I do find it hilarious that we are all posting so much on this thread. I picture this wileybear smirking his head off atm getting so much "press"

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I do not really care about that. Believe it or not, I have learned a thing or two today so I don't think it was in vain, for me at least.

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posted May 15, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wisleybear     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ghanima81:
I read that sentence to mean that he would make her the happiest girl on earth by treating her very well and loving her intensely.

This.

Thanks for all your help so far guys. I have very thick skin by the way so just call it as you see it

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posted May 15, 2012 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have too much fire, it seems

I think you just imagined him to be 'just like' a guy you know in RL or have known - and reacted based on that impression.

I catch myself doing this sometimes ^.. and try to detach and hold back judgment.

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posted May 15, 2012 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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