posted May 21, 2012 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Unfortunately my experience has been that most women hold their cards and keep a poker face unless you say it first,so its always a big risk pouring my heart out.

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^ that's how I've operated since my first disaster

If someone liked me, that person would have to tell me. No way in hell would I ever confess first. Someone wanted to know if I loved them, they'd have to take the risk of the first move.

posted May 21, 2012 08:24 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
So, from personal experience, do NOT be too forward, too emotional, too over-the-top: basically, don't be too Venus in Scorpio .

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well, at least he should appreciate your courage.
about the emotional part is very true, I actually learnt from my own observation of how he reacted to me when i became too emotional.
Then i keep things light and more in a friendly way even when i told him how i feel.
thanks for sharing.

posted May 21, 2012 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I dont like it when women play hard to get and i will not chase them,so any women wanting me to chase them can forget it about it. I want an equal relationship where we are both wanting to spend time together and both making efforts to do so. One of the most dissapointing facets of all my past relationships was that i had to make all the moves and calls etc. I would periodically test all these girls by not calling or texting them for a few days, this was simply to see if they cared enough to reach out to me. In most of the cases it took them a week or more to contact me,and when they did they cussed me out for not talking to them. Why should i be having to make all the effort? It would be nice to have a woman call me everynow and then or text me first, that would show me that she was thinking of me.

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Well, to be fair, it's considered "scary" to be intense or "clingy".

I mean, I find myself constantly anxious about seeming that way to people. I try hard *not* to call a lot or text because it's considered intrusive. I'm a natural talker, but it's not considered good to be that way with people, from my experience. Whenever I email/message/text someone, I worry that I am being annoying or bothersome, so I seldom do it anymore, even though I really like to and enjoy conversations online/in writing/in person. I hate having to deal with the anxiety of having to constantly worry that I'm weird or wrong for talking to people, so I'm at a point where I just don't want to bother. If people want to talk to me, they will. Some do. I will talk back. I just try not to initiate.

posted May 21, 2012 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
@belage, i am very affectionate,as a taurus moon it is one of my needs to be able to give and receive affection. @rose, i dont expect the woman to make the first move, but i want her to be doing her part as well, i dont like women who play hard to get.i want to be able to tell if she is really into me and not playing games.

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Does your moon square your Venus or is it that they are just in squaring signs?

posted May 21, 2012 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by rose_s:
not even after getting in a relationship with them?
I can't really stay away from them though, most of my very best, reliable friends all have Uranian influences and this guy is very caring in his way, I do hope at least to stay friends with him.

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Hmm. Affection. That's a tough one. (And I'm glad what I said rings true, starmoon. I've known my CP for almost 7 years now, and am kind of an 'expert' in this. His mind is just blown that I'm still here!)

As starmoon said - honesty. Oh, God. We're brutally blunt with each other - no matter the topic. Nothing is taboo. We may not always agree (though, funnily enough, we tend to - especially on the big things) but we'll talk about absolutely anything.

And the truth is, he doesn't actually have relationships. (Of course, relationships come in many a shape and size, and many have argued that what we have here, is a genuine relationship, we've just always been squirmy to call it that. Though, after almost seven years, of being in constant contact, you have to call it SOMETHING.)

He does the no-relationships / sport-sex thing. Really. Flings and one-night-stands if they tickle his fancy, wherever he happens to be. I called him on it, because it ... kind of broke my heart. For a VERY long time, he was basically celibate, and, who knows - he found his Venus-Eros / Mars-Psyche conjunction (ALL Aquarius) or something, but, blammo! Sure, some of it was jealousy, (we've never lived in the same state), but the most of it was ... sadness. I knew how impossible it is for him to connect with anyone, (granted, again, outside of me) but couldn't fathom HOW he has SEX with women without CONNECTING. Without SOME form of ... CONNECTION. (I've a three-point Scorpio stellium, arguably four, but my Mars is in 0* Sag, but it's still Moon-Merc-Mars-Ura. To NOT CONNECT IN SEX? ARE YOU INSANE? Oh, and Eros is there, too, come to think of it.)

Finally, he admitted to me what it was about. Ironically, connection. It's the only time he feels he CAN 'connect' with a woman, to satisfy the 'need for human companionship' - because otherwise, they just don't get him. His humour, his style, his dreams, and especially, his aloof, cynical, unromantic nature. (We wish each other 'Happy Valentine's Day' by saying, 'HFVD' - if that's an indication. You can guess what the 'F' is for.) Most women want the hearts and flowers, and verbal expressions, and demonstrations which instil security and reaffirm their desires.

The closest I've ever gotten with him are sudden exclamations of a far more dramatic and emotional nature than I thought he was even capable, after I've chewed on something for several months and have finally blown my top. Usually, with some kind of, 'Why do I bother? It's so obvious I'm just a convenience for you so that you don't have to find a woman you ACTUALLY want,' to which I'm inclined to get something to the effect of, 'Who said I don't want you?' Which short-circuits everything else in my brain for several seconds, until I can recover with, 'You. Though you've said nothing either way.' And the subject is closed with an, 'Exactly.' Yes. The subject is -closed-. Woe be to you if you open it back up. He's DONE. In his mind, he's told you that he cares about you, and there's really nothing more that needs to be said here - right?

That's among my favourites.

The only real fight we've ever truly had actually resulted in my ignoring him for almost a week. (I'd NEVER done that before.) But it was the same issue as before - and this time, he'd been spending the weekend with one of his past flings in order to save on hotel expenses (and, I later learnt, get the 'human companionship need' met) - and ignored one of my text messages, as he was 'post-coital' and 'didn't want to be rude'. Given other circumstances, damn it, I just snapped. I'd built up all kinds of reasons in my head (even though some of the messages had been lost, or, 'went into the Void' as we call it) so that when he got back to me after he'd arrived back home, I ignored him for days. Until he finally tracked me down on Facebook and messaged me, 'WTF'. (Let that be another indicator. It took him ALMOST THREE DAYS to REALISE I WAS ANGRY AND IGNORING HIM. Or, if he DID realise it, he SAID nothing about it until Day 4. Just kept contacting me, and assuming I was 'busy' and then expressed frustration. But when he bolded 'WTF' and messaged me on Facebook, okay, THAT's when I answered.

And THAT's when he reminded me that he'd taken the only free time he had in the state and called me. 'Not his family, not his friends, but me.' I argued it was mainly about the project, and he didn't contradict me. But then he'd admitted, 'And other stuff.' Right.

It's hard. I won't lie to you. That just happened back in March, and the reason things are smooth-sailing again, is because we really talked about everything after his latest: 'I did this, and you don't know how you figure into my life?' explosion. Because that's what he'll do. (Maybe it's the Mars in Aquarius, too, even as aren't conjunct.) He'll get to a point, and explode - very emotionally - and very quickly. And then it's onto the next thing; it happened, it just wasn't very impacting.

I finally took that last time to accept that he really does care like he's shown me he does, and says in momentary outbursts, every few years or so. But keep the drama to a low. At least mine is VERY sensitive to, cognisant, and wary of drama. Just because of that one falling-out we had, and how salient it was to him, he'd started believing it was a 'bad idea' that we'd gotten so close, because of how 'it didn't seem to improve things; just make them worse somehow.' When I'd reminded him that it was the ONLY falling-out we'd had in almost seven years, he apologised for being hasty, had admitted to extenuating circumstances contributing to everything, and agreed that thing actually HAD improved dramatically since we developed the intimacy we have now.

BUT ... it was kind of a warning to me. His tolerance for ANY kind of drama or emotional display? VERY low.

Not that I'd suspect he'd distance himself from me or decide to just be strictly professional, or whatever nonsense I've thrown at him in my weaker, more fed-up moments. But that it WOULD pose a caution flag for him, and we'd end up having to talk about it, before he felt comfortable moving forward, or maintaining the level of intimacy we have now.

In all honesty? Though it's obviously not the case, (and I'm not even sure why it came out this way) watch how RDJ portrays Tony Stark in the 'Iron Man' films. Especially his relationship to Pepper Potts, his assistant.

To me, that's just kind of a perfect example. I've not found one that sums it up more completely somehow. His actions are there, he even attempts, at times, to show his affections - but he's SO damned absent-minded, that the whole thing ends up comedically disastrous. And, when she's had enough, she threatens to quit. Literally. It's his wake-up call, he steps out of his haze for just long enough to remind her that she DOES matter, and things go back to normal.

That's ... pretty much how it is. In my experience. They're also damned charming, too. And witty. It ends up, somehow, worth it. Or maybe we're just all mad for staying. I haven't figured out which yet. Maybe both.

posted May 21, 2012 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Well, to be fair, it's considered "scary" to be intense or "clingy". I mean, I find myself constantly anxious about seeming that way to people. I try hard *not* to call a lot or text because it's considered intrusive. I'm a natural talker, but it's not considered good to be that way with people, from my experience. Whenever I email/message/text someone, I worry that I am being annoying or bothersome, so I seldom do it anymore, even though I really like to and enjoy conversations online/in writing/in person. I hate having to deal with the anxiety of having to constantly worry that I'm weird or wrong for talking to people, so I'm at a point where I just don't want to bother. If people want to talk to me, they will. Some do. I will talk back. I just try not to initiate. Then again, though, some people have different definitions of what's "clingy". That's where it gets complicated.

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posted May 21, 2012 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I would periodically test all these girls by not calling or texting them for a few days, this was simply to see if they cared enough to reach out to me. In most of the cases it took them a week or more to contact me,and when they did they cussed me out for not talking to them. Why should i be having to make all the effort? It would be nice to have a woman call me everynow and then or text me first, that would show me that she was thinking of me.

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I think I have been tested a lot. don't really like this part but never mind, I'm very patient so i'm willing to do just anything without complaining.

I read from somewhere that Aqua people love their space, then how often do you think it's acceptable for girls to contact you and not be viewed as clingy?

posted May 21, 2012 09:00 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I think we all have those insecurities to an extent, my experience has been that i am always the one who has to start conversations,calls,emails,texts etc. I am extremely liberal in what i consider clingy especially for an aqua, i want to have intimacy and spend time together, the only time i consider a girl clingy is if she is one of those ring your phone off the hook or keep texting ya until ya answer,if i dont answer it means im busy,it doesnt mean im angry , so dont send me 50 texts saying "whats wrong baby?????? :`("

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ooh, I don't text people/message until they answer...my rule is that if I speak, they have to go next, unless something happens and I have to ask them something/say something or whatever

I don't get people who have to call people like 12 times a day. Plus, I lose my phone a lot, and leave it off a lot.

posted May 21, 2012 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
They're also damned charming, too. And witty. It ends up, somehow, worth it. Or maybe we're just all mad for staying. I haven't figured out which yet. Maybe both.

-A.

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posted May 21, 2012 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by rose_s:
I think I have been tested a lot. don't really like this part but nevermind, I'm very patient so i'm willing to do just anything without complaining.

I read from some where that Aqua people love their space, then how often do you think it's acceptable for girls to contact you and not be viewed as clingy?

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you're taking it too literally.

RELAX. They like things to be relaxed. Emotions...are not relaxing to them. They are very tense and Aquarius is a water bearing sign meaning they like things being peaceful. It's easy to see why Libra and Aquarius would get along as signs.

We also can't tell you the perfect mixture to snagging your Aquarius guy. There's nothing in the stars or recipe Linda Goodman wrote to solve capturing the love, attention, and devotion of a another person. But to answer your question, I think Aquariuses are similar to Sagittarians as far as the whole "space" thing goes. Giving them their space doesn't mean you have to play hard to get. It means one) they like having their own personal bubble to stand in when hanging out with someone. This is actually something quite natural, so don't take offense if when you move closer to him he backs up. Make sure he can outstretch his arms to their fullest extent. He will probably like that (not being ridiculous either.) two) the term "giving him his space" means allowing him to have freedom. Trusting in "the process" enough to be okay with his independence. It does NOT mean he will take it, but he likes to know that he has it if he wants to and that there won't be a consequence for exercising it.

posted May 21, 2012 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by rose_s:
I think I have been tested a lot. don't really like this part but nevermind, I'm very patient so i'm willing to do just anything without complaining.

I read from some where that Aqua people love their space, then how often do you think it's acceptable for girls to contact you and not be viewed as clingy?

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posted May 21, 2012 09:26 PM            

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you're taking it too literally.

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well, I'm very practical..haha
I don't have such a high hope on him but I hope that my curiosity would help other girls to have some more details about their Aqua guys.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

Giving them their space doesn't mean you have to play hard to get. It means

1) they like having their own personal bubble to stand in when hanging out with someone. This is actually something quite natural, so don't take offense if when you move closer to him he backs up. Make sure he can outstretch his arms to their fullest extent. He will probably like that (not being ridiculous either.)
2) the term "giving him his space" means allowing him to have freedom. Trusting in "the process" enough to be okay with his independence. It does NOT mean he will take it, but he likes to know that he has it if he wants to and that there won't be a consequence for exercising it.
The easiest way to deal with an Aquarius (and guys, and people in general) is to have your own life. Do your own things. Focus on YOU.

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Thanks for sharing. you sum it up very nicely.

posted May 21, 2012 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Does your moon square your Venus or is it that they are just in squaring signs?

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posted May 21, 2012 09:47 PM            

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ok..here I am again.

I'm falling for a guy with aqua sun and venus. Here are my questions.

1. How would you react toward people you don't feel anything with when they told you that they loved you?

2. Do venus in aqua lead people on?

3. How long does it take you to open up about your feeling to those loved ones?

please feel free to share your experience. Thank you.

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I have a best friend with Venus in aquarius and to be honest if she hears the word love too soon it`s not like she will go in panic mode it sort of is like she has no idea how to deal with something that is so strong so fast.

she from what i know it never leads anyone on,this guy she was talking to a few days ago got the boot because she felt he was moving to fast and was coming on too strong.he was texting all the time and she just let him down.I know she is not speaking with him so she did in fact let him down,as for the way she did it i can`t say.

She has always been to herself when it comes to her feelings,i think she feels comfort in keeping things to herself and others at bay in that way.

She is cap sun aries moon mercury saturn uranus neptune in capricorn.She has a saggi asc with mars in the first house as well.

P.s you take the girl anywhere in world she will meet and fall for a foreigner everytime lmfao it never fails.I guess that would explain her mars in sagittarius in the first.

The venus in aquarius will like that considering when she leaves she wont have to deal with a constant reminder of him for the rest of her life.

posted May 21, 2012 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by rose_s:
not even after getting in a relationship with them?
I can't really stay away from them though, most of my very best, reliable friends all have Uranian influences and this guy is very caring in his way, I do hope at least to stay friends with him.

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posted May 21, 2012 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yes they're squaring each other.

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