posted June 16, 2012 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
You know,observing is part of personal experience xD

It is never the matter of being optimistic or pessimistic,but rather realistic. And the reality is that people are.. mostly...ordinary.

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really our journey is about gettign to know things from external perception & internal reflection the whole world is full of contradictions! i must say i really like the way you communicate & the angle in which you do! witty!

realistic is just a kind way of saying pessimistic, like how you call fat chubby or voluptuous. ordinary depends on what you measure them on ... lawyer doesn't have the skill to make a fine table like a carpenter, not does a carpenter have the skill to utilise the law like a lawyer, both a skilled and extraordinary in their own fields - and respectively conqure their own battles in their own way.

just as how success is different to each person

mind you the pespective of being a wolf in a sheeps costume is rather flattering, but then again, i think, how many sheep out there are actually wolves in hiding.

posted June 16, 2012 09:47 PM            

But,we are social beings!

"i must say i really like the
way you communicate & the angle in which you do! witty!"

Thanks,I am a Merc dominant.

"realistic is just a kind way of saying pessimistic, like how
you call fat chubby or voluptuous. ordinary depends on
what you measure them on ... lawyer doesn't have the skill
to make a fine table like a carpenter, not does a carpenter
have the skill to utilise the law like a lawyer, both a skilled
and extraordinary in their own fields - and respectively
conqure their own battles in their own way.
just as how success is different to each person"

chubby : implies positive,endearing context
voluptuous : implies attractive

posted June 16, 2012 09:59 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
"really our journey is about gettign to know things from
external perception & internal reflection"

But,we are social beings!

"i must say i really like the
way you communicate & the angle in which you do! witty!"

Thanks,I am a Merc dominant.

"realistic is just a kind way of saying pessimistic, like how
you call fat chubby or voluptuous. ordinary depends on
what you measure them on ... lawyer doesn't have the skill
to make a fine table like a carpenter, not does a carpenter
have the skill to utilise the law like a lawyer, both a skilled
and extraordinary in their own fields - and respectively
conqure their own battles in their own way.
just as how success is different to each person"

chubby : implies positive,endearing context
voluptuous : implies attractive

Naturally you can't measure lawyers and carpenters. But,you measure lawyers among themselves. The success is the same,only arena is different.

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external perception is built by rapport & selective retention that includes banter and what we learn off otehrs

haha nice! prolly why i like you already, i'm a merc DC and Gemini merc!

both 'lighter' froms of fat. like realistic is the lighter version of pessimistic.

if you measure lawyers amongst themselves and you believe the majority of people are are 'ordinary', then shouldn't you be comparing yourself w the minority of extraordinary people and not the majority of ordinary people - which will result in you seeing that you are in the majority in your arena?

the fact that you take into account of the minority 'ordinary' means that it is teh same arena, but different successes.

posted June 16, 2012 10:11 PM            

No,just specific,I still see they are fat. By chosing voluptuous over fat,one may even say I look on the bright side of the life

"haha nice! prolly why i like you already, i'm a merc DC and
Gemini merc!"
And,astrology has spoken!! xD

"if you measure lawyers amongst themselves and you
believe the majority of people are are 'ordinary', then
shouldn't you be comparing yourself w the minority of
extraordinary people and not the majority of ordinary
people - which will result in you seeing that you are in the
majority in your arena? "

How can you know you are short if no tall people,and vice versa?

posted June 16, 2012 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by seaofjoy:
you're not a dirty ***** . just really intense sexual attraction - to do w power ...

i'm the pluto in my relationship, my man the venus, i've always wanted to surprise sex him & i do, but as much as my desire to have sex, it is because i am attracted near compelled to be a part of his life so badly, i can't even put it into words, i'm drawn to his sensitive sweet heart because i see him for he is and i want him to see me for who i am ... once you're in the sack, you may be surprised ... pluto often wants the intense action, but while in bed, the venus is the one who takes charge because pluto wants to be dominated once they give in

i have unaspected venus in the 8th, mars in the 8th & pluto in scorpio.

he has venus trine pluto exact.

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SeaofJoy, what is your pluto/venus synastry contact with this bf, a conjunction or trine or square or opposition?

posted June 17, 2012 08:25 AM            

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he sees me as a bit of a whir£

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Honestly - this is never a good sign.

I have this happen when their Mars is near my Venus (which is opposite my Pluto).
If he has a Mars/Pluto aspect and his Pluto is in aspect to your Venus - then his Mars would also be in aspect to your Venus.. right?

posted June 17, 2012 11:25 AM            

heres my chart (still dunno how to post it so im going to write it )

Planetary positions
Sun Taurus 9°38'05 in house 3 direct

Moon Aquarius 7°26'08 in house 1 direct

Mercury Taurus 2°19'07 end of house 3
retrograde

Venus Taurus 16°43'08 in house 3 direct

Mars Virgo 16°45'59 in house 8 direct

Jupiter Aquarius 19°22'36 in house 1 direct

Saturn Aries 13°55'56 in house 3 direct

Uranus Aquarius 8°36'03 in house 1 direct

Neptune Capricorn 29°57'24 end of house 12

Pluto Sagittarius 4°54'03 in house 11 retrograde

My important aspects

Sun Square Moon 2°12
Sun Conjunction Mercury 7°19
Sun Conjunction Venus 7°05
Sun Trine Mars 7°08
Sun Square Uranus 1°02
Moon Square Mercury 5°07
Moon Sextile Saturn 6°30
Moon Conjunction Uranus 1°10
Moon Conjunction Neptune 7°29
Moon Sextile Pluto 2°32
Moon Conjunction Ascendant 6°09
Mercury Square Neptune 2°22
Mercury Quincunx Pluto 2°35
Mercury Square Ascendant 1°02
Venus Trine Mars 0°03
Venus Square Jupiter 2°39
Mars Quincunx Jupiter 2°37
Mars Quincunx Saturn 2°50
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 5°27
Saturn Sextile Uranus 5°20
Uranus Sextile Pluto 3°42
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°57
Neptune Conjunction Ascendant 1°20
Pluto Sextile Ascendant 3°36

my ascendant is Aquarius .

he tells me things he doesn't tell other people . Including his desire to rape me , hes very sexual and that annoys me sometimes . i don't think hes actually going to try and rape me thats why i stick around but he did playfully bite me on the shouler and thigh and i broke a nail trying to get him off me . My mam thinks i should stay away from him but i think i love him . i don't usually act this stupid over a guy!

he also has
Sun Conjunction Neptune 7°53
Moon Opposition Venus 1°28
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°08
Neptune Square Ascendant 2°08

posted June 17, 2012 11:38 AM            

anyway i feel like no one my own age is attracted to me only older guys and by that i mean litterally in their 30's and im not even 20 . and then they end up being so creepy to me . I dunno HOW any of them are attracted to me and i feel uncomfortable with any male attention but then i go looking for it , i think if any of them tried to touch me i'd cry .

posted June 17, 2012 08:39 PM            

Just noticed you're in Ireland, not sure what part but age of consent in the UK 16, 17 for Ireland. You do realise that even if he has "consensual" sex with you it's classed as statutory rape.

Not worth it.

posted June 17, 2012 08:56 PM            

Now him being a decade older than you and telling you things like this:

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Originally posted by lovehate122:

he tells me things he doesn't tell other people . Including his desire to rape me , hes very sexual and that annoys me sometimes . i don't think hes actually going to try and rape me thats why i stick around but he did playfully bite me on the shouler and thigh and i broke a nail trying to get him off me . My mam thinks i should stay away from him but i think i love him . i don't usually act this stupid over a guy!

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is just VERY wrong. This guy is dangerous, whatever his chart and placements and aspects are! Dread very carefully, and try to avoid him at all cost. No guy who is around 25 should tell things like this to a teenage girl! It's just plain wrong. I know it's easy to say but don't fall for his dangerous game.
You should follow your mother's advice here.

posted June 17, 2012 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by lovehate122:
sorry for my late replies (timezone) i was litterally in bed when you were replying !

anyway i feel like no one my own age is attracted to me only older guys and by that i mean litterally in their 30's and im not even 20 . and then they end up being so creepy to me . I dunno HOW any of them are attracted to me and i feel uncomfortable with any male attention but then i go looking for it , i think if any of them tried to touch me i'd cry .

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Look, I'm sure there are plenty of guys your age that are attracted to you but you just might not know because young guys tend to be shy, and/or girls have a hard time reading them while older men have had a lot of practice so they know how to seduce girls better.
As for you attracting "older guys", well there will always be men who are attracted to girls younger than them. It is socially accepted that a guy in his 40s date a girl in her 20s. The huge difference here is, apart from the fact that you're underage, that this guy is explicitly letting you know that he has the desire to rape you and is being sexually explicit with you and is making you uncomfortable with it.

posted June 17, 2012 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Post the date of birth,so as time and I will post charts

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Also Asc in Aqua, with ruler Uranus in Aqua (remember we were chatting about this gen?) conj her Aqua Moon, sq her Taurus Sun which rules her Leo DSC.

sa.Saturn in 28 Aries opp n.Chiron 28 Libra, with Saturn transiting over it. Something like bring on the pain lol. And to add to that, n.Neptune 29 Cap danger heartbreak dead ahead

posted June 18, 2012 07:02 AM            

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Venus
opp natal Pluto. "Ding, ding."
Oh and get this, that opp is sq to transit Nep (conj
sa.Pisces Jup), and sq to transit Gem Jup.
Ripe for delusion/confusion, ya think.
Also Asc in Aqua, with ruler Uranus in Aqua (remember we
were chatting about this gen?) conj her Aqua Moon, sq her
Taurus Sun which rules her Leo DSC.

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Even more ripe,since Nep is Rx and kid could be even closer to her experiment's final acts; With all this fixed energy,I see why she doesn't budge an inch,even foolishly so,and the man has Leo moon,I think,so it makes the for the sense of security,feels nice and cuddly,and with Leo Dsc she can mistake his force for the healthy arrogance and typical men's nature,you know,approving the stereotype,I bet if herSun/hisMoon in square she doesn't even acknowledge the conflict. And at some point,when you are under Nep,all that could seem as form of flattery.

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sa.Saturn in 28 Aries opp n.Chiron 28 Libra, with Saturn
transiting over it. Something like bring on the pain lol. And
to add to that, n.Neptune 29 Cap

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So young,so much Saturn... You know,even when Sat hit hard,if Nep in the bundle,one can spend considerable amount of time blissfully ignorant,so the pain gets prolonged.

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And curious, sa.SN is conj n.Saturn

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Shivers.

posted June 18, 2012 10:27 AM            

i know how you feel don't worry you didn't hurt my feelings . My mam won't let me see him anyway , My sister and my mam HATE him and i can understand that . I broke a nail as in i physically broke my nail and that was the LAST straw for my mam and now im not allowed to see him . I asked for advice and i got told the same thing over and over to stay away from him , but i guess i didn't listen i dunno why i sort of took it as a joke (my sister is a leo btw almost all her planets are in leo )

anyway you guys are AMAZING ! i dunno how you could work that out i clearly have alot to learn . i didn't sleep with him btw . I couldn't sleep with him . but there was a time where i wanted to . I didn't feel pressured i felt wanted and happy and like i was in love with him . I still think im in love with him . And he might be in love with me too .

thanks for all the replies guys !

i'll post his chart soon
he's 9 years older than me and i don't think he knows how old i am . Like i said i've been in this situation before (twice) and i have venus in the 8th house of most libra risings . I checked his chart because i just KNEW he was a libra rising and i had to check he was born in 1988 and me in 1997 . * it startled me how you knew that straight away .

posted June 18, 2012 11:25 AM            

im april 29th btw , and uranus is my chart ruler i think !