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Topic: Venus and Pluto aspects and danger ?
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lovehate122
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posted June 15, 2012 06:56 PM
  
Im the venus and he is the pluto . I think he sees me as a bit of a wh0r£ and frequently gives me dirty looks or ignores me after i talk to one of his friends or any male around . He tells me everything (mars in his 12th house) and this is the scary part . he says he often has fantasies about raping me ! and yes he was dead serious . He's very intense and He always thinks im looking for male attention .
could this be the work of venus and pluto??he also has harsh aspects with mars-pluto
moon-pluto moon-mars mars-saturn ? Basically im documenting all these crazy intense relationships that i have so i can blog about it and let people know . IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 15, 2012 07:06 PM
Yes,it sounds about right. But,I would like to see your composite.
You are documenting that? Why?
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RegardesPlatero
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posted June 15, 2012 07:10 PM
All right, if he wants to rape you, that is WRONG.It is honestly disgusting and disturbing that he would ever want to do that to you, and it's not healthy. If you're documenting it, obviously there is a reason--you say that you want to "let people know". Are you trying to warn them? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 16, 2012 03:26 AM
Well yea it makes sense for Venus/Pluto but it's not really the norm when in conj in synastry, which is really a bit more tame than when it's triggered in a sick natal. I'd look at his chart first + prog/sa/transits. I might even stay away from him if that's an option since it sounds like he doesn't see you as a real person, more like an object for his ownership and use.IP: Logged |
lovehate122
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posted June 16, 2012 08:58 AM
im documenting it because i have alot of relationships like this with men and i guess i trying to figure out why . im putting it on my blog cos i blog about everything ! i venus in his 8th house . I don't know if he sees me as an object but i know alot of other guys do . I just know he sees me as a girl whos been around . Im not tho . Although i do like male attention i don't act on it .
this is going to sound so venusian of me but i try to stay away but i think i love him even though i don't really i just want to be with him . i hate him I love him too . I just wish he'd go away but i couldn't bear it if he did .
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Delilah
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posted June 16, 2012 09:33 AM
If your Venus is in his 8H, then it's easy for either of you to get carried away with obsessing about the other. It's the same as Venus conjunct Pluto because Venus is in Pluto's traditional house. Add this to the Venus-Pluto aspect you already have, it almost gives the aspect a steroid boost. Those two harsh aspects to his Moon may make him behave this way towards all women. He can either attract dangerous/deceitful women or he can be dangerous to women. From your description of him, I would say it's the latter. Does his Neptune make harsh aspects to his personal planets? How about in your synastry chart? This could explain why he has such a view of you. I read years ago that Sun in harsh aspect to Mars in a natal chart makes women vulnerable to abusive men. Not saying that you have this, but there's something in your chart that draws you to men like him and vice versa. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted June 16, 2012 09:50 AM
I've been both the venus and pluto in venus/pluto synastry aspects and I've never been tempted to rape or harm the other person, nor have they expressed those urges towards me. This is not normal behavior for anyone.Stay far away from this guy for your own safety. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 16, 2012 12:50 PM
Put the charts up,yours,his,synastry,everything.
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starmoon
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posted June 16, 2012 01:13 PM
my bf and i have venus/pluto conjunct both ways; one at 1 degree and another at 2 degrees. he is a very loving man, but has also used the word rape when referring to us together... to me, it doesn't have a bad connotation coming from him, just that he is expressing wanting more sexual power over me. perhaps it can also be venus playing too hard to get?? as venus, i am guilty of doing that a lot, and it can drive the pluto guy pretty wild, so perhaps look at your own behaviors too - maybe something else is causing him to use that word? it could also be his natal chart and any possessive tendencies; for example my bf has pluto in the 1st house and in general is extremely jealous/possessiveIP: Logged |
Belage
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posted June 16, 2012 05:19 PM
Lovehate, is a Venus/Pluto conjunction or is it a square or opposition? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 16, 2012 05:25 PM
Probably a conjunction,making grand cross with his natal squares.
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lovehate122
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posted June 16, 2012 05:52 PM
the venus and pluto are opposistion and the mars and pluto is conjunct IP: Logged |
lovehate122
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posted June 16, 2012 05:57 PM
I have mars in the 8th house ?
my sun is trine my mars ??
we also have neptune and venus aspects ?i feel he is attracted to me i just don't know for sure he is a capricorn with a leo moon btw . what is interesting is the 4 planets in my 1st house are conjunct eachother in his 5th house . My ascendant is in his 5th house .
im sure he's attracted to me ! ugh i just can't stand this whole situation ! IP: Logged |
lovehate122
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posted June 16, 2012 06:00 PM
the weird thing is tho he tries to be so friendly and charming and people (except my sister) think hes so charming but really he's not . I also have chiron in this 1st house so maybe he feels bad about himself around me ? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted June 16, 2012 06:12 PM
Venus/Pluto opposition explains the desire to rape you. It's one of those hard aspects that are not conductive to happy ending. Should you break off the relationship against his will, watch out!Also, you may need to check your Nessus/Dejanira asteroids synastry. IP: Logged |
lovehate122
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posted June 16, 2012 06:22 PM
whats nessus?IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted June 16, 2012 06:40 PM
Nessus and Dejanira are asteroids named after the mythological characters of the same name. Nessus kidnapped Dejanira and attempted to rape her, but she was rescued by her husband. As he lay dying, Nessus tricked Dejanira into doing something that killed her husband, and she later committed suicide over it. To check the location of those asteroids in the chart, go to astro.com and in the extended chart selection page, go to the bottom where it says Additional Objects, and put those numbers in the asteroid line (just put the numbers, not the names)Nessus 7066 Dejanira 157 IP: Logged |
seaofjoy
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posted June 16, 2012 08:53 PM
you're not a dirty ***** . just really intense sexual attraction - to do w power ...i'm the pluto in my relationship, my man the venus, i've always wanted to surprise sex him & i do, but as much as my desire to have sex, it is because i am attracted near compelled to be a part of his life so badly, i can't even put it into words, i'm drawn to his sensitive sweet heart because i see him for he is and i want him to see me for who i am ... once you're in the sack, you may be surprised ... pluto often wants the intense action, but while in bed, the venus is the one who takes charge because pluto wants to be dominated once they give in  i have unaspected venus in the 8th, mars in the 8th & pluto in scorpio. he has venus trine pluto exact. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 16, 2012 08:57 PM
You have just described your unaspected Venus.IP: Logged |
seaofjoy
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posted June 16, 2012 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
You have just described your unaspected Venus.
nupe, unaspected venus means pure venus energy, unaspected venus means BURSTS of energy - on or off. i have an unaspected jupiter as well. as it is often triggered by transits. doesn't explain the attraction between synastry or i'd be going for everyone plus venus in the 8th operates much like a natal venus-pluto we have venus opposite pluto exact in composite. you can't nail something down to one aspect - especially when analysing betwene two charts. do you have an unaspecte venus? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 16, 2012 09:06 PM
Pure? More like overhyped. Needy. Rampant. I don't,but know plenty people who do. And saying you can't nail down somethin to one aspect it's like saying you can't find cause of something. IP: Logged |
seaofjoy
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posted June 16, 2012 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Pure? More like overhyped. Needy. Rampant. I don't,but know plenty people who do.
You can never fully know a person, you only get to know the projection or energy they share with you. Nupe, overhyped, needy, rampant is coloured by the planet's placement. It is more about how much a unaspected person understands their planet, the more they are aware the more they're able to utilise the energy. It's funny how the words you associate with unaspected planets are almost negative. It's not, just as hwo retrograde planets are, they operate different'y doesn't make them good or bad, all depends onw hat you do with them. plus those adjectives are more of a negative plutonian trait. ie, venue - pluto. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 16, 2012 09:16 PM
And by not fully knowing a person,do you include oneself,as well? They are negative,because with strong energies you begin at low point,and grow. Majority never succeeds. Funny,one could notice every word you associate with ~unaspected is positive  IP: Logged |
seaofjoy
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posted June 16, 2012 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
And by not fully knowing a person,do you include oneself,as well? They are negative,because with strong energies you begin at low point,and grow. Majority never succeeds. Funny,one could notice every word you associate with ~unaspected is positive
i was speaking from my personal experience. knowledge without transformation is not wisdom, rather pessimistic about everyone aren't ya? not every word, as i said, depends on how you use the energy. i'd rather smile then frown, perhaps that's just my optimistic jupiter anyway, i appreciate your point of view thank you. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 16, 2012 09:25 PM
You know,observing is part of personal experience xD
It is never the matter of being optimistic or pessimistic,but rather realistic. And the reality is that people are.. mostly...ordinary.
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