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posted June 18, 2012 12:02 PM            

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Well,with 6th of January he could have Pluto squaring Moon,and Venus oppo Moon. With 7th : Mars square Moon.

Sun sq Jupiter : ego trip,but other that this,nothing comes to mind. (sure,we'd need to see what his house rulers do, they are the key,it seems) I bet it is your planet that triggers this,either by synastry or progression.

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posted June 18, 2012 12:03 PM            

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It's great that you follow your mother and sister's advice. I know how it can feel when we're a teenager and that parents and older siblings are trying to limit and restrain us when they just mean our best.
Your sister might not want listen because the whole situation might be just plain wrong to her (it might be the age difference) and she might not want to face her sister's feelings for this man (I'm not saying she's right though)
As for you being in love with him, well I do not claim to have knowledge of what is in your heart or in your mind, but it is possible you might just be in love with the attention he gives you.
When someone we find attractive manifests interest in us and show love and great desire to be with us (whether it be romantically or sharing intimacy) it is very easy to get hooked up on them. Everyone loves feeling loved and desired. Besides, the fact that he's a mature young man validates that part of you who wants to be and feel like an adult, grown up woman.

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posted June 18, 2012 12:14 PM            

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I don't know why anyone is even attempting to look at this guys chart or is entertaining doing a synastry after the OP has disclosed her age (via planet placements).

She's a FIFTEEN year old girl (under the age of consent btw) who's concerned because a guy 9 years older has told her he wants to RAPE her.

The only advice she needs is to stay the fcuk away from this predatory creep - regardless of the aspects in their natal, composite or damn synastry. End of.

SMDH

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posted June 18, 2012 12:39 PM            

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deliverance you are right
theres nothing left for me to do but to listen to advice i guess and try to make sense of this as best as i can .

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posted June 18, 2012 12:45 PM            

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and your all right (all very clever its a lil bit scary ) i just can't stop being so obsessed with him like i said ive been in positions like this before i had my first kiss when i was 9 with a guy who was 14 at the time and then ignored him and haven't kissed anyone since .

my sister is younger than me by a year
and reading this post just made her even more angry at me .

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posted June 18, 2012 01:17 PM            

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@lovehate...

This is a person that is very bad for your over all well being, not only physically but emotionally...
Calling you a ***** ^^^ is only a manipulation tactic, meant to lower your self esteem so he can control you...
This is NOT the way men talk to women when interested..
Your better than that.. Dont let anyone speak to you like that.. Dont accept it.
He wants to control and dominate you, and thats not a good thing...
Im guessing thats why he's after young girls, instead of women his age...
Please disconnect any and all contact with this person.. Get your parents involved if needed...
Honestly I know its flattering that this older man, is showing interest, but in truth no health 25 (guessing) man would be emotionally interested in young girls.
The level of the mind is just in 2 different places... Its nothing about you, its him..

Please read this website
http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing11.html

A manipulator's aggression is not obvious. Our gut may tell us that they're fighting for something, struggling to overcome us, gain power, or have their way, and we find ourselves unconsciously on the defensive. But because we can't point to clear, objective evidence they're aggressing against us, we can't readily validate our feelings.
The tactics manipulators use can make it seem like they're hurting, caring, defending, ..., almost anything but fighting. These tactics are hard to recognize as merely clever ploys. They always make just enough sense to make a person doubt their gut hunch that they're being taken advantage of or abused. Besides, the tactics not only make it hard for you to consciously and objectively tell that a manipulator is fighting, but they also simultaneously keep you or consciously on the defensive. These features make them highly effective psychological weapons to which anyone can be vulnerable. It's hard to think clearly when someone has you emotionally on the run.
All of us have weaknesses and insecurities that a clever manipulator might exploit. Sometimes, we're aware of these weaknesses and how someone might use them to take advantage of us. For example, I hear parents say things like: "Yeah, I know I have a big guilt button." – But at the time their manipulative child is busily pushing that button, they can easily forget what's really going on. Besides, sometimes we're unaware of our biggest vulnerabilities. Manipulators often know us better than we know ourselves. They know what buttons to push, when and how hard. Our lack of self-knowledge sets us up to be exploited.

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posted June 18, 2012 01:35 PM            

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Well this was a disturbing thread after finding out the age of the op. I had a odd feeling she was a minor. Hopefully she'll take to heart the advice given.

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posted June 18, 2012 01:42 PM            

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Yes. And just because someone is yapping at you does not mean that they deserve a response. Boundaries.

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posted June 18, 2012 02:36 PM            

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what do you mean by that Lonake ?
I would of said i was 15 but i just don't like being talked at or treated a certain way because of my age/race/gender
(aquarius moon)
but then again i can understand your concern and when people are telling you the same thing over and over its best to listen right ?

the whole situation just hurts . Im still trying to understand why i a feeling this way and what i can do to stop it . but for now it just really hurts .

maybe hes just a jealous guy he must think im older i know calling me names and telling me such creepy things is strange but maybe hes not in love with me and just wants to hurt me . i don't know why . Maybe he doesn't care about me at all.

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posted June 18, 2012 02:48 PM            

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Good then,find some fantasy novel and start blogging about fashion,and all will be well

Deliverance,as for the astrological interest... This IS an astrology site. Instead of shaking your damn head (kinda nulls the rest of the post,putting it abbreviated) do try to be constructive. People have been giving the OP pieces of advice,and it seems to produce little effect. The best one can do is influence her over astro data,for she has been asking for an astro advice. I want to show her that she HAS to distance herself. As small nudge as it may be.

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posted June 18, 2012 03:01 PM            

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venus im really touched at your concern and i find some of your replies funny i have to say .

i did write about it though .

i was just wondering why so many men or guys treat me this way . Or why do i need so much attention from them . you probably already know that ..lolz

i didn't even know i had a chiron and saturn aspect until today .

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posted June 18, 2012 03:16 PM            

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You're a teen,funny works the best

I would discuss this with you,but you are still very young but nevertheless asking good questions : "Is it just them or it could be me?" You alone noticed certain pattern when dealing with men,and it raises additional questions. But,for now,I think you'd better listen to your mom and sister,who care so much about you,and end any type of relation to this man.

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posted June 18, 2012 03:24 PM            

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agreed . its not like i have much choice .
oh and thanks for the article lioness! that was very leo of you !(assumin your a leo)

i'll post his chart if needed but i dunno the time i'll do two of them .

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posted June 18, 2012 06:25 PM            

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Not you girl, HIM. H-i-m, him. I mean what I wrote.
And no if you think I was responding to ail221's post, in agreement or comment, was not. Posted it after reading Lioness comment. You owe him nothing, not respect, and not a response. <--- My point.

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posted June 18, 2012 06:54 PM            

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your right , but i can't really see that right now , i guess i just wanted him to love me and by him saying he'd rape me i felt like he loved me intensley now i don't know if he loves me or hates me . I alo don't know what i did to deserve being called a ***** . I must have done something people don't just say these things .

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posted June 18, 2012 06:56 PM            

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I wasn't trying to be mean towards the op I accidently reflected in the post not responding. I think he's taking advantage your at a tender age, sure a age gap between two consenting adults is fine but your still a teenager enjoy dating guys your own age, young love is one of the best things to experience. Don't let some guy take away that experience . Your only 15 once, you have plenty of time to date guys who are way better for you. Directed that sexual energy into writing or create a tumblr page.

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posted June 18, 2012 07:03 PM            

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i wonder what sparked so many replies , maybe i should disclose more of my deepest worries ??

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posted June 18, 2012 07:17 PM            

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Yes Im a Leo

Im going to be very Leo Blunt...
He calls you names to lower your self esteem, and make you feel bad about your self.. You saying "I dont know what I did" Is showing that he did in fact lower your self esteem...
You know who you are.. No one can call you names and "make" you believe it... You have your own personal power inside you to get this out of your life..

As for the word 'rape" rape has NOTHING to do with sex or love.. This is NOT LOVE.. or loving some one intensely!!!!
Rape is about control, What he said to you was I want to over power you and control you.. Do what I want.. He said it in a sexual way to confuse you, so you believe he desires you, but his desire is to control you..

Most of us here are only giving you advice, not to tell you what to do, or to treat you as a young person. We are giving the advice because we have at some point been a young girl and know what its like... Times my change, but they still stay the same..
Its very easy to get caught up in this.. Its not your fault.. You didnt do anything wrong..

Get away from this person, focus your mind on other activities...
If you remain things will only get worse.. These type of relationships dont get better.. They get worse and worse...
I am speaking to you from experience...

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posted June 18, 2012 07:19 PM            

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You are young and naive,and we would like to help you. Simple as that.

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posted June 18, 2012 07:30 PM            

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He's just a creep - they don't need reasons for saying weird and inappropriate things. You could be anyone. Healthy women (and protected girls who have someone looking out for them, nudge hint nudge hint) stay the eff away from creeps.

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i just wanted him to love me and by him saying he'd rape me i felt like he loved me intensley

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posted June 18, 2012 09:03 PM            

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VenusDiSirius,

I posted constructive advice on page 2 of this thread.

I'm well aware that this is an astrology site and that she was asking for astrological advice however, as soon as her age was disclosed, coupled with the disturbing nature of the posts (in regards to the older "man" and his sick intentions), all bets are off.

What if the natal chart doesn't reflect his creepiness or they have an abundance of positive synastry inter-aspects?

The most useful advice one can give in this case is for the OP to get out of this potentially dangerous situation regardless of what's in the chart.

BTW have you never seen abbreviations such as lol, pmsl, iirc, etc? They're commonly used on the internet as is SMH/SMDH.

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posted June 18, 2012 09:43 PM            

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Sure! etc stands for et coetera xD Latin,hardly internet invention. and *lol* That's laughing out loud. However,full sentences favorably contribute to overall impression and purpose of a post.

The situation is disturbing,with or without her age. After all,development of one's sexuality isn't bound by one's age,although we want to keep the young from the bad things by telling them they are young. I don't know have you read the posts carefully,but the girl's responses to this are revealing too. She doesn't see it as creepy. She thinks she loves him. And asks for astro advice. The only way you can get to her by giving her an astro advice. And,forgive me,but this type of raport is bound to be shown in the charts. You reacted protectively...like a parent would. And what do they do? They shield the child away - sometimes you need to confront the problem.

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posted June 18, 2012 09:43 PM            

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posted June 19, 2012 02:57 AM            

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well now we know is venus and pluto for sure , it makes people crazy . its turning me into a pyscho . i appreciate all the advice tho . it just sucks that theres nothing i can do to make it stop hurting so bad .

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posted June 19, 2012 03:27 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
You reacted protectively...like a parent would. And what do they do? They shield the child away - sometimes you need to confront the problem.

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I know this wasn't to me, but I was re-reading the tone of my latest posts, and I realized I was feeling the same, like a parent would. My instinct was to go find this guy and give him a piece of my mind. So if my tone was aggressive, it was cos of that, because if this were my family this would not even be an issue. He'd be scared of me and I would be on his ass like a dog ripping at his pants and skin with my teeth until he was running away in tears. Ha.

More on topic,
I found this cafeastrology,

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Progressed Venus square or opposition Pluto Sometimes what you want just isn't worth fighting for -- and usually you find that out after the fray. Choose your battles, and their goals, and when in doubt choose to wait and see. To the victor go the spoils, and all too frequently they're spoiled. Today's desperate needs seem ho-hum tomorrow.

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Progressed Venus to Natal Pluto – Three Ways to Interpret - a short guide

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