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Lonake
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posted June 24, 2012 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh thank you for the info. I have never heard of astrobank. I'll definitely take a look at it. Thanks again.

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posted June 24, 2012 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by depth:
I'm straight till now, never been attracted to anyone of the same sex. But I've kind of wanted to be with another woman for experience sake. I've also learnt that I'm open to sexual experimentation with members of the same sex.
H5 in gem.
H8 in virgo.
Merc/venus in sag in h10.
Moon in virgo in h8 trine ura in 12th, sext pluto in 1oth.
7h in leo. Sun/mars in sag in 11th.
I wonder if it's mercs(neutral planet) conj to venus in a double bodied sign that makes me cool with bisexuality. But I don't see myself settling down with a girl. I love men. <3


Maybe this could be something to look into, when the change in attitude began (even tho it's not a complete 180), I would look at that chart with progressed/natal/solar arc one tab + other tab bring up transits from planetwatcher.com, or if you can't remember exact day np just estimate. That'd be interesting to see. Now I still wish I had the chart of a friend of mine, she was in a horribly abusive relationship, and began exclusive lesbian relationships, including living together, the new woman helping her with the care of her children, etc. But maybe that's an unusual case (?)

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posted June 24, 2012 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed Sun conjunct Mars in a lot of gay mens charts!

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posted June 24, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
o that's interesting, since I've heard a few astrologers point to Moon conj Venus in charts of women for lesbianism, one said it was an indicator of sexual abuse from the mother. In both cases, there'd be a strong emphasis on one gender, their own.

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posted June 25, 2012 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing!

That would give the assumption that there is something "special" about being homosexual.

I once heard that Uranus-Venus, 7th house are "homosexualy inclined" aspects.

I, being a homosexual myself, say that there is very little evidence in a natal chart that would indicate this.

I have no Uranus-Venus aspects and my Uranus sits in eighth-making no major aspects with any of my personal planets.

So, I wouldn't say that there are....

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posted June 25, 2012 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[b]Nothing!

That would give the assumption that there is something "special" about being homosexual.

/b]


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posted June 25, 2012 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Actually, it is.

Are you joking? You better be joking. I sure hope that you're joking!

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posted June 25, 2012 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fenia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The classic aspect for uncertainty in gender is thought to be Mars square Venus, I think.


Sexual Orientation has nothing to do with gender identity and confusion. When people are sexually or emotionally attracted to the same sex are homosexuals. Gay and lesbians don't question their gender at all. They are just attracted to the same gender. "Uncertainty in gender" must apply for transgenders, and personally I don't have any problem with these people. Trangenders may be straight or gay as well.

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posted June 25, 2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Nothing!

That would give the assumption that there is something "special" about being homosexual.

I once heard that Uranus-Venus, 7th house are "homosexualy inclined" aspects.

I, being a homosexual myself, say that there is very little evidence in a natal chart that would indicate this.

I have no Uranus-Venus aspects and my Uranus sits in eighth-making no major aspects with any of my personal planets.

So, I wouldn't say that there are....


Hi,
Thanks for posting.

Would it be possible to see your natal chart?
Also are you male or female?
Thanks

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posted June 25, 2012 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus was transiting Pisces, my 2h of values? It had just squared off natal Sun, Venus and Mercury. I had a T-square formed by 5 planets in total, 2 prog, 1 trans, 2 natal.
Apex - Pvenus conj Pmerc conj Nmars, sag 11h.
1 end - Turanus, pisces, 2h.
Other end - Nm0on, virgo, 8h.
They were all sq and opp.
Psun was at 0 or 1 deg cap conj Tpluto. Pmoon in the last 3 or 4 deg of aries.
Tnept in the 1st, conj natal Saturn and sq nPluto.
The year I called someone "boyfriend" for the first time.

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posted June 26, 2012 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:

Are you joking? You better be joking. I sure hope that you're joking!


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posted June 26, 2012 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Omgggg!

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posted June 26, 2012 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

why yes,

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posted June 26, 2012 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bowie Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really, everyone ( except ASC Taurus- she makes sense- oh- and GeminiSquared)? Really? If you want to go for someone of your own sex, do it! Own it! It's not math and it ain't how planets square, conjunct, twine or collide. It's inside you- whether that is "chemical" ( a crock of crap in my view)or just how you are wired ( maybe ), or simply a choice ( bingo- in how I view it ). All this, "well, you see, what happened was, my Gemini,or Scorpio, Popeye, Charlemagne like, you know, crossed paths with the 3 of Spades or somethin' and I just had to answer the wild call."
Same thing with explaining why you would continue to beat your head against the wall with pursuing another being when you've spent years dealing with their nonsense and lack of reciprocation in feelings. It ain't in the skies or the cosmic void. The only void is the one of examining things from inside yourself and owning up to the truth, which exists in your heart and your mind. If something is happening, that involves you, and it involves choices, those choices you own. In similar fashion other people own their personal choices. Not math, nor various gravitational pulls, not because of symbols on cards ( unless on the subconscious level you make something you see or hear about "fate" self-fulfilling).
You go a certain way in life, guess what, you chose it, YOU are responsible for it. So deal with it that way and move on. Mental shrug of shoulders.
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posted June 26, 2012 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what are you talking even about?.. lol
its not a choice..... you must be kidding me

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posted June 26, 2012 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
what are you talking even about?.. lol
its not a choice..... you must be kidding me

Life is all about choices. You may be atttracted to shooting people but you can make choices.

I'm not saying you need to make a choice not to pursue a homosexual or straight relationship.

All I'm saying is we make choices and that's what defines us at the end of the day.

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posted June 26, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bowie Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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what are you talking even about?.. lol
its not a choice..... you must be kidding me

No, you must be kidding yourself. Of course it's a choice and it's obvious. Next.

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posted June 26, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Life is all about choices. You may be atttracted to shooting people but you can make choices.

I'm not saying you need to make a choice not to pursue a homosexual or straight relationship.

All I'm saying is we make choices and that's what defines us at the end of the day.



Well society defines people, and labels have never been a positive thing. It only keeps people separated.

Also if you're implying the comparison between a psychological based fetish and sexuality, you can't. Its two different things. For example pedofilia and is a choice this person needs mental help, either this person has the desire to dominate, or take the innocence of a child, etc . This is not something you born with. You can have consensual sex with someone your own age. Same thing with shooting up people, that person needs help obviously lol

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posted June 26, 2012 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by David Bowie Eyes:
No, you must be kidding yourself. Of course it's a choice and it's obvious. Next.

S


I'm bisexual, I had normal stable childhood. I had a father figure and the works. I remember I was first attracted to a boy at the age of 7. His name was Josh he was my neighbor and really nice.

So you best believe your God made me this way,
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posted June 26, 2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bowie Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I'm bisexual, I had normal stable childhood. I had a father figure and the works. I remember I was first attracted to a boy at the age of 7. His name was Josh he was my neighbor and really nice.

So you best believe your God made me this way,
NEXT


At least now you understand me.Instead of pretending not to. Good. You chose the boy, no? My GOD as you put it, never was in the argument nor implied.Which means that you must not have any bullets in that scatter gun when you start introducing irrelevant assumptions to deflect the discussion from the facts to a game of lobbing invectives. What's next? Labeling? An attempt to box me into some convenient little cliche? Would that be your GOD? BS?
To quote Mr T- " Ah pity tha poh fool."

Your serve.

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posted June 26, 2012 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Uranus and Neptune are the planets to look out for.

Uranus for being the one that symbolizes difference from the norm.

Neptune I have noticed tends to be prominent in the chart of gays, especially cross dressers and transvestites which is part of the make believe influence of Neptune, and transgenders because Neptune can confer confusion about gender.

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posted June 26, 2012 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fenia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by David Bowie Eyes:
No, you must be kidding yourself. Of course it's a choice and it's obvious. Next.

S


Stop it right there. It's not a choice whom you're gonna be attracted to. Or whom you have feelings for. It is a choice if you're gonna act on it. We want to be civilised, so we are free to form same sex relationships. Do you deny this right to me? Are you homophobic?

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posted June 26, 2012 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, you must be kidding yourself. Of course it's a choice and it's obvious. Next.

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Wow, just stop it right there and back it up would you kindly. You cannot choose who you are attracted to. Sure, you can choose who to get involved with, but attraction, romantic or sexual? No. Not a choice.

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posted June 26, 2012 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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At least now you understand me.Instead of pretending not to. Good. You chose the boy, no? My GOD as you put it, and i never even hinted at GOD, mine or otherwise, in my earlier argument, which means that you must not have any bullets in that gun you start introducing irrelevant assumptions to deflect the discussion from the facts to invectives. What's next? Labeling? An attempt to box me into some convenient little cliche? Would that be your GOD? BS?
To quote Mr T- " Ah pity tha poh fool."

Your serve.

S


I can easily say you're pretty dang ignorant. I won this match because at the end of the day your heterosexual and can't speak for me.
You know I've struggled with my sexuality, Its not easy, kids kill themselves for not being accepted. Few years ago if it was simply a matter of "choice" I would be straight
I don't really give **** anymore
I am who I am

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posted June 26, 2012 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bowie Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fenia:
Stop it right there. It's not a choice whom you're gonna be attracted to. Or whom you have feelings for. It is a choice if you're gonna act on it. We want to be civilised, so we are free to form same sex relationships. Do you deny this right to me? Are you homophobic?

That is quite funny. I'm hommephobic because I don't take the PC route of " I was made this way" to heart. What way would that be? I never said that what society calls homosexuality was anything different, bad, unnatural, wrong, blah, blah, blase~ blah. The only sense of fear, worry and anger are from the "experts" and self-proclaimed "Bi" or homosexual closet emergers. If you munch carpet or take one down the back nine for the gipper, hooray! It's a private matter, just like if I talk to Mary and her four Sisters or enjoy "relations" with my wife, it's behind closed doors.
Really, the "hysteria as argument" I thought went out with witch burnings. No? I really need to get out more I suppose. Smell the burning embers and flesh more often to "know what time it is, yo".

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