Lindaland
  Astrology 2.0
  INDICATES HOMOSEXUALITY? (Page 1)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
This topic is 5 pages long:   1  2  3  4  5 
next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   INDICATES HOMOSEXUALITY?
Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 23, 2012 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MOON, PLUTO, SATURN are in the 3rd house in libra, conjunct each other but squaring mars.

Does this indicate homosexuality?

IP: Logged

PixieJane
Knowflake

Posts: 589
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010

posted June 23, 2012 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what "these" are but I do know that plenty of gays who are born with a twin frequently (even in the case of identical twins) have their twin sibling being heterosexual, so even though whatever you're talking about might be indicative it certainly wouldn't be in any way conclusive.

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 23, 2012 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm not sure what "these" are but I do know that plenty of gays who are born with a twin frequently (even in the case of identical twins) have their twin sibling being heterosexual, so even though whatever you're talking about might be indicative it certainly wouldn't be in any way conclusive.

Sorry about the missing info.

Yeah, I see your point. Then again astology is a soft science right? All based on interpretation.

IP: Logged

amowls**
Knowflake

Posts: 1684
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted June 23, 2012 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not only that but not every gay person is born with Pluto in Libra.

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 23, 2012 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amowls**:
Not only that but not every gay person is born with Pluto in Libra.

I realize that, but as with every other human emotion experience there are more than one possible combinations to the same end value right?

I was asking about this particular set of combination.

If it has nothing to do with homsexuality then please let me know. This is why I'm posing the question; I honestly don't know.

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 23, 2012 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm not sure what "these" are but I do know that plenty of gays who are born with a twin frequently (even in the case of identical twins) have their twin sibling being heterosexual, so even though whatever you're talking about might be indicative it certainly wouldn't be in any way conclusive.

Have you personally met a set of twins with one being homosexual or bi and another being completely straight? I'm not questioning the validity of your statement. After all it is quite possible. I am however interested to learn more about this. I don't know too many out homosexuals. I've never heard of twins being gay, nor that one was straight. So if you do have real life experience please share it.

IP: Logged

PixieJane
Knowflake

Posts: 589
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010

posted June 23, 2012 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read of a study regarding identical twins and homosexuality and even though the majority of those who showed up were both gay (or bi, whatever) there was a sizable minority that were not...and the study was criticized because of how it sought volunteers for the study was geared to attract twins who were both gay rather than a truly random sampling.

And I had a friend who was gay but his identical twin was not (though they were so alike in almost every other way).

IP: Logged

Ami Anne
Moderator

Posts: 33817
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010

posted June 23, 2012 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The classic aspect for uncertainty in gender is thought to be Mars square Venus, I think.

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal


http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/

IP: Logged

Lonake
Moderator

Posts: 8140
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted June 24, 2012 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read a theory (and that's all these are, theories) and it was a bit convoluted but it involved h5, h8 & uranus. If I find the link I'll post, it was a few yrs ago. But in lieu of that, if you were quite interested, then astrodatabank has a lot of charts for research. But usually what's said, is that it can't be seen in the chart. It's tricky because sexuality is a continuum and many are not fixed in one spot, but move around a bit. Maybe for someone all sexual experiences are hetero, and then there is curiosity so maybe some sexual experiences with the same sex, that could be something to research, what in the chart poss accounts for such change, no matter how temp, in their attitude, influences when it began, and when it ended, but you'd need honest self-reporting.

This isn't what I found earlier, but it's something. Also convoluted, more so actually lol, the other was I think only a pg or 2.

IP: Logged

Geminisquared
Knowflake

Posts: 630
From: nyc
Registered: Nov 2011

posted June 24, 2012 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What indicates heterosexuality in astrology, this is often my question in response to this one..

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 24, 2012 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminisquared:
What indicates heterosexuality in astrology, this is often my question in response to this one..

Well, any indicator that is opposite to indicators of homosexuality. <--sarcasm.

To be quite blunt that question you posed is silly, if you are posing it as a defense. When I mean defense I mean, as in why should anyone ever wonder about sexuality within a chart? Why should we question it? It's all the same. If everything were the same and there were no indicators then you wouldn't be on this forum asking, learning. Would you? Do people not question charts regarding anger, happiness, sadness, depression, love, pain suffering etc? Do experienced astrologers give replies? Yes they do. Even though this is also on a continuous spectrum there are differences and indicators. And a majority of those on this forum as questions about lost loves, relationships, affairs, depressions, sadness. To each individual, it's quite unique and has a strong impact. To an another person it means absolutely nothing.

Fact is with astrology we are all questioning our existence, our meaning. If everything were the same without indicators then well....you and I would not be using this forum. If there were no differences then why would you be so interested in astrology? Just because you haven't found an indicator for homosexuality or heterosexuality that works, does not mean it doesn't exist...

IP: Logged

Geminisquared
Knowflake

Posts: 630
From: nyc
Registered: Nov 2011

posted June 24, 2012 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Well, any indicator that is opposite to indicators of homosexuality. <--sarcasm.

To be quite blunt that question you posed is silly, if you are posing it as a defense. When I mean defense I mean, as in why should anyone ever wonder about sexuality within a chart? Why should we question it? It's all the same. If everything were the same and there were no indicators then you wouldn't be on this forum asking, learning. Would you? Do people not question charts regarding anger, happiness, sadness, depression, love, pain suffering etc? Do experienced astrologers give replies? Yes they do. Even though this is also on a continuous spectrum there are differences and indicators. And a majority of those on this forum as questions about lost loves, relationships, affairs, depressions, sadness. To each individual, it's quite unique and has a strong impact. To an another person it means absolutely nothing.

Fact is with astrology we are all questioning our existence, our meaning. If everything were the same without indicators then well....you and I would not be using this forum. If there were no differences then why would you be so interested in astrology? Just because you haven't found an indicator for homosexuality or heterosexuality that works, does not mean it doesn't exist...


Calling my question silly is like me calling you ignorant. My point is nothing can cause homosexuality, or heterosexuality, its like trying to to find someones gender through a birth chart.... Its not possible

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 24, 2012 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Calling my question silly is like me calling you ignorant. My point is nothing can cause homosexuality, or heterosexuality, its like trying to to find someones gender through a birth chart.... Its not possible


Well then I guess I do think it's an ignorant question. I don't think you personally are ignorant; I don't even know you. I think if you were posing you question with sincerity, then we wouldn't have this discussion.

What, honestly, was the point of your question? You didn't really care to know about indicators for heterosexuality. ( I don't kno if there are or not,but that definitely was not the purpose of your question was it?) It was basically to imply that *I* was being ignorant or rude for asking my genuine question and you did that with an annoying sense of sarcasm.

If you have nothing to sincerely add to the thread why bother posting? Honestly? What do you get from making snide, underhanded comments? It's pointless.

Anyway, to clarify I called your question, not you, silly and pointless.

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 24, 2012 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Calling my question silly is like me calling you ignorant. My point is nothing can cause homosexuality, or heterosexuality, its like trying to to find someones gender through a birth chart.... Its not possible


Also, we can get a feel for the gender of the person.

For example, we can tell that a person has a lot of the traditional manly energy or someone is more feminine energy. Can we not?

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 24, 2012 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
I read a theory (and that's all these are, theories) and it was a bit convoluted but it involved h5, h8 & uranus. If I find the link I'll post, it was a few yrs ago. But in lieu of that, if you were quite interested, then astrodatabank has a lot of charts for research. But usually what's said, is that it can't be seen in the chart. It's tricky because sexuality is a continuum and many are not fixed in one spot, but move around a bit. Maybe for someone all sexual experiences are hetero, and then there is curiosity so maybe some sexual experiences with the same sex, that could be something to research, what in the chart poss accounts for such change, no matter how temp, in their attitude, influences when it began, and when it ended, but you'd need honest self-reporting.

This isn't what I found earlier, but it's something. Also convoluted, more so actually lol, the other was I think only a pg or 2.



Oh thank you for the info. I have never heard of astrobank. I'll definitely take a look at it. Thanks again.

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 24, 2012 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what lonake stated, since venus is a masculine energy in Libra then the pluto saturn should be masculine?

What confuses me is the mars is in cancer and in the 12th house. Mars squares all these planets.

IP: Logged

RedScorp
Knowflake

Posts: 2466
From: The Capitol
Registered: Jul 2011

posted June 24, 2012 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Then again astology is a soft science right?

It's not a science period.

IP: Logged

Geminisquared
Knowflake

Posts: 630
From: nyc
Registered: Nov 2011

posted June 24, 2012 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Well then I guess I do think it's an ignorant question. I don't think you personally are ignorant; I don't even know you. I think if you were posing you question with sincerity, then we wouldn't have this discussion.

What, honestly, was the point of your question? You didn't really care to know about indicators for heterosexuality. ( I don't kno if there are or not,but that definitely was not the purpose of your question was it?) It was basically to imply that *I* was being ignorant or rude for asking my genuine question and you did that with an annoying sense of sarcasm.

If you have nothing to sincerely add to the thread why bother posting? Honestly? What do you get from making snide, underhanded comments? It's pointless.

Anyway, to clarify I called your question, not you, silly and pointless.


Well its not you're fault to be curious, the majority of the human population is heterosexual. So its natural to wonder what causes homosexuality and treat it as a "special condition" . Anyways in my experience in life I really don't believe in labeling sexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
As for astrology
Since attraction and sexual chemistry is found between two individual people you might want to look at synastry or composite chart.
I was not insulting you personally, that is literally my response to that question, which is often asked. It would be very hard to find out what causes heterosexuality since many people have different planetary alignements

IP: Logged

RedScorp
Knowflake

Posts: 2466
From: The Capitol
Registered: Jul 2011

posted June 24, 2012 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
the majority of the human population is heterosexual. So its natural to be wonder what causes homosexuality and treat it as a "special condition" .

IP: Logged

Dreaming111
Knowflake

Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Oct 2011

posted June 24, 2012 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Well its not you're fault to be curious, the majority of the human population is heterosexual. So its natural to wonder what causes homosexuality and treat it as a "special condition" . Anyways in my experience in life I really don't believe in labeling sexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
As for astrology
Since attraction and sexual chemistry is found between two individual people you might want to look at synastry or composite chart.
I was not insulting you personally, that is literally my response to that question, which is often asked. It would be very hard to find out what causes heterosexuality since many people have different planetary alignements


Oh ok, no worries then. I'm sorry if I came off as a bit gruff. Yeah I see your point, but there has to be some indicator. I mean since we look at aspects to tell us about abuse. Abuse being an extreme or "special condition" of anger.

I simply want to see if anyone has experience or relates to the set of aspects I posted above.

IP: Logged

Nine
Knowflake

Posts: 1058
From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009

posted June 24, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say look at Venus & the 7th house / 7th house ruler.

I also think genetics & parental attitudes have a lot to do with it.

Uranus is relevant in a world where homosexuality is statement making or alternative. I don't believe this, simply because the impulse has been part of human civilization from the beginning of time.

IP: Logged

12thhouser
Knowflake

Posts: 295
From:
Registered: Feb 2012

posted June 24, 2012 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RedScorp:
It's not a science period.

Actually, it is.

IP: Logged

Geminisquared
Knowflake

Posts: 630
From: nyc
Registered: Nov 2011

posted June 24, 2012 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Actually, it is.

its a belief system... there is no scientific evidence to back it. Unless you coin the term metaphysical science which usually deals with the paranormal, then I guess sure

IP: Logged

depth
Knowflake

Posts: 299
From:
Registered: Mar 2010

posted June 24, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm straight till now, never been attracted to anyone of the same sex. But I've kind of wanted to be with another woman for experience sake. I've also learnt that I'm open to sexual experimentation with members of the same sex.
H5 in gem.
H8 in virgo.
Merc/venus in sag in h10.
Moon in virgo in h8 trine ura in 12th, sext pluto in 1oth.
7h in leo. Sun/mars in sag in 11th.
I wonder if it's mercs(neutral planet) conj to venus in a double bodied sign that makes me cool with bisexuality. But I don't see myself settling down with a girl. I love men. <3

IP: Logged

VenusDiSirius
Knowflake

Posts: 3400
From: Saturn-free H12 ;)
Registered: Aug 2010

posted June 24, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will put Uranus in the whatever combo you've got,because Uranus in contact with personal planets gives the state of feeling good in your skin,being ok with your unique self. Also,it gives the guts necessary for many people to step up and own it,despite peer and society pressure; to answer/question your sexuality,to face it;

IP: Logged


This topic is 5 pages long:   1  2  3  4  5 

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2012

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a