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Topic: INDICATES HOMOSEXUALITY?
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Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 23, 2012 08:02 PM
MOON, PLUTO, SATURN are in the 3rd house in libra, conjunct each other but squaring mars. Does this indicate homosexuality? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 589 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 23, 2012 08:34 PM
I'm not sure what "these" are but I do know that plenty of gays who are born with a twin frequently (even in the case of identical twins) have their twin sibling being heterosexual, so even though whatever you're talking about might be indicative it certainly wouldn't be in any way conclusive. IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 23, 2012 08:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I'm not sure what "these" are but I do know that plenty of gays who are born with a twin frequently (even in the case of identical twins) have their twin sibling being heterosexual, so even though whatever you're talking about might be indicative it certainly wouldn't be in any way conclusive.
Sorry about the missing info. Yeah, I see your point. Then again astology is a soft science right? All based on interpretation. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1684 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 23, 2012 08:54 PM
Not only that but not every gay person is born with Pluto in Libra.IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 23, 2012 09:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by amowls**: Not only that but not every gay person is born with Pluto in Libra.
I realize that, but as with every other human emotion experience there are more than one possible combinations to the same end value right? I was asking about this particular set of combination. If it has nothing to do with homsexuality then please let me know. This is why I'm posing the question; I honestly don't know. IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 23, 2012 09:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I'm not sure what "these" are but I do know that plenty of gays who are born with a twin frequently (even in the case of identical twins) have their twin sibling being heterosexual, so even though whatever you're talking about might be indicative it certainly wouldn't be in any way conclusive.
Have you personally met a set of twins with one being homosexual or bi and another being completely straight? I'm not questioning the validity of your statement. After all it is quite possible. I am however interested to learn more about this. I don't know too many out homosexuals. I've never heard of twins being gay, nor that one was straight. So if you do have real life experience please share it. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 589 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 23, 2012 09:31 PM
I've read of a study regarding identical twins and homosexuality and even though the majority of those who showed up were both gay (or bi, whatever) there was a sizable minority that were not...and the study was criticized because of how it sought volunteers for the study was geared to attract twins who were both gay rather than a truly random sampling. And I had a friend who was gay but his identical twin was not (though they were so alike in almost every other way). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 33817 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2012 09:33 PM
The classic aspect for uncertainty in gender is thought to be Mars square Venus, I think.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 8140 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2012 02:05 AM
I read a theory (and that's all these are, theories) and it was a bit convoluted but it involved h5, h8 & uranus. If I find the link I'll post, it was a few yrs ago. But in lieu of that, if you were quite interested, then astrodatabank has a lot of charts for research. But usually what's said, is that it can't be seen in the chart. It's tricky because sexuality is a continuum and many are not fixed in one spot, but move around a bit. Maybe for someone all sexual experiences are hetero, and then there is curiosity so maybe some sexual experiences with the same sex, that could be something to research, what in the chart poss accounts for such change, no matter how temp, in their attitude, influences when it began, and when it ended, but you'd need honest self-reporting.This isn't what I found earlier, but it's something. Also convoluted, more so actually lol, the other was I think only a pg or 2.
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Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 02:48 AM
What indicates heterosexuality in astrology, this is often my question in response to this one..IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 03:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: What indicates heterosexuality in astrology, this is often my question in response to this one..
Well, any indicator that is opposite to indicators of homosexuality. <--sarcasm. To be quite blunt that question you posed is silly, if you are posing it as a defense. When I mean defense I mean, as in why should anyone ever wonder about sexuality within a chart? Why should we question it? It's all the same. If everything were the same and there were no indicators then you wouldn't be on this forum asking, learning. Would you? Do people not question charts regarding anger, happiness, sadness, depression, love, pain suffering etc? Do experienced astrologers give replies? Yes they do. Even though this is also on a continuous spectrum there are differences and indicators. And a majority of those on this forum as questions about lost loves, relationships, affairs, depressions, sadness. To each individual, it's quite unique and has a strong impact. To an another person it means absolutely nothing. Fact is with astrology we are all questioning our existence, our meaning. If everything were the same without indicators then well....you and I would not be using this forum. If there were no differences then why would you be so interested in astrology? Just because you haven't found an indicator for homosexuality or heterosexuality that works, does not mean it doesn't exist... IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 03:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dreaming111: Well, any indicator that is opposite to indicators of homosexuality. <--sarcasm.To be quite blunt that question you posed is silly, if you are posing it as a defense. When I mean defense I mean, as in why should anyone ever wonder about sexuality within a chart? Why should we question it? It's all the same. If everything were the same and there were no indicators then you wouldn't be on this forum asking, learning. Would you? Do people not question charts regarding anger, happiness, sadness, depression, love, pain suffering etc? Do experienced astrologers give replies? Yes they do. Even though this is also on a continuous spectrum there are differences and indicators. And a majority of those on this forum as questions about lost loves, relationships, affairs, depressions, sadness. To each individual, it's quite unique and has a strong impact. To an another person it means absolutely nothing. Fact is with astrology we are all questioning our existence, our meaning. If everything were the same without indicators then well....you and I would not be using this forum. If there were no differences then why would you be so interested in astrology? Just because you haven't found an indicator for homosexuality or heterosexuality that works, does not mean it doesn't exist...
Calling my question silly is like me calling you ignorant. My point is nothing can cause homosexuality, or heterosexuality, its like trying to to find someones gender through a birth chart.... Its not possible IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 04:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: Calling my question silly is like me calling you ignorant. My point is nothing can cause homosexuality, or heterosexuality, its like trying to to find someones gender through a birth chart.... Its not possible
Well then I guess I do think it's an ignorant question. I don't think you personally are ignorant; I don't even know you. I think if you were posing you question with sincerity, then we wouldn't have this discussion. What, honestly, was the point of your question? You didn't really care to know about indicators for heterosexuality. ( I don't kno if there are or not,but that definitely was not the purpose of your question was it?) It was basically to imply that *I* was being ignorant or rude for asking my genuine question and you did that with an annoying sense of sarcasm. If you have nothing to sincerely add to the thread why bother posting? Honestly? What do you get from making snide, underhanded comments? It's pointless. Anyway, to clarify I called your question, not you, silly and pointless. IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 04:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: Calling my question silly is like me calling you ignorant. My point is nothing can cause homosexuality, or heterosexuality, its like trying to to find someones gender through a birth chart.... Its not possible
Also, we can get a feel for the gender of the person. For example, we can tell that a person has a lot of the traditional manly energy or someone is more feminine energy. Can we not? IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 04:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: I read a theory (and that's all these are, theories) and it was a bit convoluted but it involved h5, h8 & uranus. If I find the link I'll post, it was a few yrs ago. But in lieu of that, if you were quite interested, then astrodatabank has a lot of charts for research. But usually what's said, is that it can't be seen in the chart. It's tricky because sexuality is a continuum and many are not fixed in one spot, but move around a bit. Maybe for someone all sexual experiences are hetero, and then there is curiosity so maybe some sexual experiences with the same sex, that could be something to research, what in the chart poss accounts for such change, no matter how temp, in their attitude, influences when it began, and when it ended, but you'd need honest self-reporting.This isn't what I found earlier, but it's something. Also convoluted, more so actually lol, the other was I think only a pg or 2.
Oh thank you for the info. I have never heard of astrobank. I'll definitely take a look at it. Thanks again.
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Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 04:27 AM
From what lonake stated, since venus is a masculine energy in Libra then the pluto saturn should be masculine? What confuses me is the mars is in cancer and in the 12th house. Mars squares all these planets. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 2466 From: The Capitol Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 04:34 AM
quote: Then again astology is a soft science right?
It's not a science period. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 04:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dreaming111: Well then I guess I do think it's an ignorant question. I don't think you personally are ignorant; I don't even know you. I think if you were posing you question with sincerity, then we wouldn't have this discussion.What, honestly, was the point of your question? You didn't really care to know about indicators for heterosexuality. ( I don't kno if there are or not,but that definitely was not the purpose of your question was it?) It was basically to imply that *I* was being ignorant or rude for asking my genuine question and you did that with an annoying sense of sarcasm. If you have nothing to sincerely add to the thread why bother posting? Honestly? What do you get from making snide, underhanded comments? It's pointless. Anyway, to clarify I called your question, not you, silly and pointless.
Well its not you're fault to be curious, the majority of the human population is heterosexual. So its natural to wonder what causes homosexuality and treat it as a "special condition" . Anyways in my experience in life I really don't believe in labeling sexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale As for astrology Since attraction and sexual chemistry is found between two individual people you might want to look at synastry or composite chart. I was not insulting you personally, that is literally my response to that question, which is often asked. It would be very hard to find out what causes heterosexuality since many people have different planetary alignements IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 2466 From: The Capitol Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 04:35 AM
quote: the majority of the human population is heterosexual. So its natural to be wonder what causes homosexuality and treat it as a "special condition" .
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Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 05:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: Well its not you're fault to be curious, the majority of the human population is heterosexual. So its natural to wonder what causes homosexuality and treat it as a "special condition" . Anyways in my experience in life I really don't believe in labeling sexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale As for astrology Since attraction and sexual chemistry is found between two individual people you might want to look at synastry or composite chart. I was not insulting you personally, that is literally my response to that question, which is often asked. It would be very hard to find out what causes heterosexuality since many people have different planetary alignements
Oh ok, no worries then. I'm sorry if I came off as a bit gruff. Yeah I see your point, but there has to be some indicator. I mean since we look at aspects to tell us about abuse. Abuse being an extreme or "special condition" of anger. I simply want to see if anyone has experience or relates to the set of aspects I posted above. IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 1058 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted June 24, 2012 09:17 AM
I say look at Venus & the 7th house / 7th house ruler.I also think genetics & parental attitudes have a lot to do with it. Uranus is relevant in a world where homosexuality is statement making or alternative. I don't believe this, simply because the impulse has been part of human civilization from the beginning of time. IP: Logged |
12thhouser Knowflake Posts: 295 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 24, 2012 09:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: It's not a science period.
Actually, it is.
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Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 09:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12thhouser: Actually, it is.
its a belief system... there is no scientific evidence to back it. Unless you coin the term metaphysical science which usually deals with the paranormal, then I guess sure IP: Logged |
depth Knowflake Posts: 299 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted June 24, 2012 11:33 AM
I'm straight till now, never been attracted to anyone of the same sex. But I've kind of wanted to be with another woman for experience sake. I've also learnt that I'm open to sexual experimentation with members of the same sex. H5 in gem. H8 in virgo. Merc/venus in sag in h10. Moon in virgo in h8 trine ura in 12th, sext pluto in 1oth. 7h in leo. Sun/mars in sag in 11th. I wonder if it's mercs(neutral planet) conj to venus in a double bodied sign that makes me cool with bisexuality. But I don't see myself settling down with a girl. I love men. <3
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 3400 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 24, 2012 11:41 AM
I will put Uranus in the whatever combo you've got,because Uranus in contact with personal planets gives the state of feeling good in your skin,being ok with your unique self. Also,it gives the guts necessary for many people to step up and own it,despite peer and society pressure; to answer/question your sexuality,to face it; IP: Logged |