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Topic: Delays in love, late bloomer: aspects and placements indicating it?
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Lazyscarecrow
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From: Silent Hill
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posted June 29, 2012 05:30 AM
  
Venus-Saturn is basically what I think of. Saturn in the 7th or any any angles. Mars-Saturn. I know many late bloomers with Neptune aspects. but it may be coincidence. Oh yeah, and a HEAVY 12th house. I have Venus-Saturn in an opposition, but I am not a "late bloomer". If anything, I just have never had a serious relationship, only psuedo-relationships or flings that burn out. I would blame that on my poor decisions rather than my placements. Using Placidus, my Sun, Venus and Chiron are in the 8th house. Venus square Pluto and Mars opposite Pluto.
Anyway, consider the entire chart. I think that would be best. IP: Logged |
neptunicity
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posted June 29, 2012 06:55 AM
Astrology is not a "one aspect fits all" type of subject, so of course there will be exceptions to the "rule".Venus retrograde may indicate it, but of course it won't apply to everyone. And i also read that venus retrograde also points to infertility. I have a friend, she has venus retrograde, but she's not a late bloomer at all. But she's infertile. Her doctor told her that she lacked female hormones, and if she wanted to have a baby, she must go abroad to have those hormone shots. She also has saturn in the 1st house, but her sun, mercury and venus are all in the 5th house. So now i understand why her love life is so "active". IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 29, 2012 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
1. Venus RX has NOTHING to do with late bloominess. I have Venus direct and I am a late bloomer.
2. People who have many planets in the houses positioned at the top of the chart aka public houses are late bloomers. Their focus is their career life.
1. Strongly beg to differ,Venus Rx is a big indicator.
2. Simplistic. Focus on career as opposed to having love? Having aspirations and ideals are opposed to love life? Very wrong.
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sand
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posted June 29, 2012 09:53 AM
Early-ish I guess for me. But I'm of the marrying age I think lol and I'm quite far from settling down.. At least this is what I thought Venus Saturn meant, which I have. Saturn in Scorpio opp Venus in Taurus conj dsc..I think being a Taurus with a Leo moon contributes. At least some combined readings say so.. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted June 29, 2012 10:21 AM
My daughter has venus in gemini retro and she is absolutley not a late bloomer...venus in capricorn people bloom generally more after time
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venus-saturn people just get it better and better ...
strong capricorn generally late... but after a while strong bloomer on everything IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted June 29, 2012 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b]1. Venus RX has NOTHING to do with late bloominess. I have Venus direct and I am a late bloomer.
2. People who have many planets in the houses positioned at the top of the chart aka public houses are late bloomers. Their focus is their career life.
1. Strongly beg to differ,Venus Rx is a big indicator.
2. Simplistic. Focus on career as opposed to having love? Having aspirations and ideals are opposed to love life? Very wrong.[/B][/QUOTE]If you say so... Who Am I to say otherwise? 
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CosmicKarma360
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posted June 29, 2012 10:50 AM
Venus square Saturn, Venus square Pluto, Venus square Uranus. Pluto & Uranus in the 5th, Neptune in the 7th. A lot going on in the 12th house. Definitely a late bloomer. At 48, still not married. Wish I knew why it has been so hard to find someone to marry. I'm amazed by people who can do it again, and again, and again...IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted June 29, 2012 11:15 AM
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Aeline
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posted June 29, 2012 12:02 PM
I haven't been in serious relationship yet. Not due to shyness or whatever, it's more like pickyness. Guys do like me and i've had chances, but there is never one that i would choose, lol. I never understood why is that, until i began to study astrology... I guess it's my Venus square Neptune - it makes me look for kinda spiritual, fated love, I tend to idealize people.. Also Virgo ascendant.. Technically i have very strong Venus - it is the strongest planet in my chart, i guess, that does attract men to me, i'm the one that's not being attracted, dreaming about all consuming romantic love that does not belong here on earth... Funny. I also have empty 7th house and Saturn in Capricorn, 5th. My NN is also in 5th, btw. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 29, 2012 12:52 PM
^ Yes,although Ven Sq Nep is not a typical late bloomer indicator : one can even say they start to "romance" pretty young = strong,subdued sentiment of idealised love,capable to carry young love attachment throughout life; The b!tch part of this aspect is that has no need for fulfillment : no need for physical,your satisfaction is state of your heart that feeds on perpetual yearning.
@Rosalind,that's your reply? >_>
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depth
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posted June 29, 2012 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
1. Venus RX has NOTHING to do with late bloominess. I have Venus direct and I am a late bloomer.
2. People who have many planets in the houses positioned at the top of the chart aka public houses are late bloomers. Their focus is their career life.
3. Saturn in 7th house is an indicator indeed. Also Saturn in 1st (this one gives or early marriage or very late marriage). Empty 7th house is another.
4. Venus/Saturn square Mars/Saturn square or Venus/Pluto square are other indicators.
9 of my 10 planets are at the top of the chart. M0st in houses 10 to 12. Merc, ruler of 5th and 8th and venus are in h10. Sun, ruler of 7th and Mars in h11. I've Saturn in the 1st and an empty 7th too. And I'm n0t a late bl0omer when it c0mes to relati0nships. I've been close to loving s0me0ne(I think or maybe it was the 9 neptune aspects), but never in love(that must be the delay). I've underst0od that it was love I was in love with and n0t the partner. I get relati0nship/flirt kicks when I travel to a foreign country for leisure purposes and that's when I go around flirting excessively after which I lay d0rmant. It's true though that I d0n't need a partner and am a l0ner at heart. My 1st relati0nship was for experience sake, 2nd was rebound, 3rd - I wanted to try a different type of guy. Soul mate and all that stuff is crap to me. I've shared beds with guy friends and felt/did n0thing. Not that I'm asexual, just that I'm n0t interested. I've the mars/sat sextile. Still a virgin. My friend has venus/mars sq and her 1st relati0nship was when she was 11 . IP: Logged |
carl
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posted June 29, 2012 02:18 PM
Late bloomer is kind of subjective, no? Depending on culture, family, local social codes, etc. I did not have my first proper gf till I was about 19. Since than I have really taken off and at this point at 27, love life is totally complicated, hectic and..I ..uh..for sure made up for blooming late! IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 29, 2012 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by carl:
Late bloomer is kind of subjective, no? Depending on culture, family, local social codes, etc. I did not have my first proper gf till I was about 19. Since than I have really taken off and at this point at 27, love life is totally complicated, hectic and..I ..uh..for sure made up for blooming late!
Yes,you have a point. While I was researching I took cultural and societal parametres in consideration.  And you go Carl  IP: Logged |
crissyx89
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posted June 29, 2012 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Then ignore my posts, OK? I do not wish to start a flame.
*edit taken down*
Not gonna argue over this LOL! IP: Logged |
crissyx89
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posted June 29, 2012 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Then ignore my posts, OK? I do not wish to start a flame.
*edit taken down*
Not gonna argue over this LOL!
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bluegreyeyes
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posted June 29, 2012 03:03 PM
I have Saturn in the 7th (Scorpio) and Venus in 12th (Aqua) - definitely a late bloomer in terms of romance/love/feelings/intimacy. Sex/physical isn't really a problem but I'm very particular when it comes to my partners. I don't find anything lighthearted or casual about romance, dating or sex. Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong generation because I watch shows like Sex & the City and think how crass and disgusting it all is. But then there's a huge part of me that WISHES I could embrace the carefree spirit and not be so serious, it'd make settling down a lot easier. At this point, I'm just too darn picky for my own good.------------------
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Desiring Shadows
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posted June 29, 2012 03:08 PM
Rosalind took the words right out of my mouth!  IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted June 29, 2012 08:59 PM
Yes, I definitely agree that being a late bloomer is sujective depending on someone's environment. I was more referring to the current social expectations that exist in western societies and that are being largely promoted by nowadays media.Venus Rx, to me, can be a huge indicator of someone who has some obstacles to having a nice, satisfying love life. I think it can manifest as late blooming considering the individual with venus retrograde may have some issues expressing and receiving love in a natural way, and can find it hard to relate to others. But it can also manifest itself as frustrations in love and relationships. The whole point being to reflect and learn on the whole subject of love. Outer planets aspecting venus, especially saturn, uranus, and neptune, also seem to create obstacles though not necessarily delays I've also thought about saturn or uranus aspecting some midpoint, especially sun-moon midpoint or venus-mars midpoint ?
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Libreo
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posted June 30, 2012 01:53 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lalalinda:
A late bloomer or delays in love could be Venus Rx
Someone who marries late could be Saturn in the 7th house (also it's house of exaltation)
When I hear the word delay and it's associated with Astrology I always think of Pluto BUT... in aspect, it is usually associated with a death or seperation and not late bloomers.Librio, you're kidding right?
ANYTHING in Sag is impatient and in a hurry to experience life.
They want to try it all and then make up their own mind about it.  [/Q
I have venus in Sag and I have friends with the same placement. We are loners, we want our freedom and we are known to settle down later in life rather than earlier. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted June 30, 2012 02:24 AM
wow I'm hearing Venus/Sag knowflakes saying similar things Libreo.Could I be wrong?  ok maybe but, Sag is such a social sign
They make friends without even trying and with Venus there well they can't help but be playful/flirty,
so even if they're not ready for a more adult friendship
I imagine there are plenty of people around them wanting to hook up.
Not only that, but there is peer presure as well. What do you think Libreo?
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hannaramaa
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posted June 30, 2012 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Aeline:
I haven't been in serious relationship yet. Not due to shyness or whatever, it's more like pickyness. Guys do like me and i've had chances, but there is never one that i would choose, lol. I never understood why is that, until i began to study astrology... I guess it's my Venus square Neptune - it makes me look for kinda spiritual, fated love, I tend to idealize people..
I have this... I'm like you. Sigh. It's a curse, and a blessing.
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Anglerfish
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posted June 30, 2012 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by neptunicity:
-picky
-has high standards in general
-extremely shy or introverted
-not fond of going out
-finding love isn't a priority
-doesn't need to be in a relationship to feel better about themselves
I have ALL of the aforementioned traits... quote:
Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Saturn contacting Venus from the 3rd for example - that makes love come late. This one can definitely make love a serious issue, it can make you feel lonely and like you have a harder time relaxing and letting go in love.
I have this placement...in Capricorn no less.
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Some signs definitely need a lot of trust to start a relationship like cancer, scorpio, or capricorn. And this can definitely delay the beginning of a relationship
Cancer Jupiter 8H in mutual reception with Sag Moon in the first, Scorpio ASC/pluto in 12th and Cap Ura 2H /Nep/Mars- 2H-3H cusp /Venus/Saturn- 3H
I am 22 and never had a relationship. I have kissed 2 guys (not Aussies), behold the pickiness and high standards!!! I find Aussie guys disgusting (Sorry if anyone here is one or likes them) and I hate they way they sound (Consequently I hate the way I talk as well, very 3rd house lol) and I point blank refuse to have a relationship with one. My venus/saturn is in cap, so Venus gets no say in anything- I have a very Saturny nature. When I have been in love/infatuated with guys (twice) I've felt really uncomfortable and I've just wished that those feelings would go away because I felt like a moron. I think my priorities lie elsewhere, like trying to appease my unaspected Sadge moon and getting educated. I know most of my problems/issues are my own doing though.
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12.5% of the planets have 71% of the mass. #OccupyJupiter.
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Anglerfish
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posted June 30, 2012 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by popcorn:
venus in capricorn people bloom generally more after time
also
venus-saturn people just get it better and better ...
strong capricorn generally late... but after a while strong bloomer on everything
I hope so ------------------
12.5% of the planets have 71% of the mass. #OccupyJupiter.
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Libreo
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posted June 30, 2012 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
wow I'm hearing Venus/Sag knowflakes saying similar things Libreo.Could I be wrong? ok maybe but, Sag is such a social sign
They make friends without even trying and with Venus there well they can't help but be playful/flirty,
so even if they're not ready for a more adult friendship
I imagine there are plenty of people around them wanting to hook up.
Not only that, but there is peer presure as well. What do you think Libreo?
Yes? No?
Yes you are right, I'm 38 and there have been many times Iv'e thought I was 'ready' in the past and I was always looking and always flirting and going on dates but once the guy started to get serious and want to play house etc, no matter how into him I was I got bored and left. Now I'm ready.....I think. Iv'e recently had a man move in with me (first time in 10 years) and while I want him to stay, I also struggle with him always being around. A friend of mine who also has this placement recently started making noises about not wanting to be alone when he's 80 but on the other hand, doesn't believe he can ever be in a couple and he just doesn't understand why he can't, he wants to, he's always out meeting women and getting numbers but when it comes to the crunch, he just can't do it. We want a relationship in theory, but in practice it's a different matter.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 01, 2012 02:50 PM
I agree with those who bring up Saturnian aspects. Saturn delays or denies. IP: Logged |
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