posted September 24, 2014 10:00 PM            

So much

posted September 24, 2014 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
[B]Personal observation does not equal science or a representative sample or excludes personal bias.

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I know.
And...?

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Anyone with some knowledge of astrology can create a site and say that virgos have a much higher tendency of drug problems than the rest of the zodiac

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The first link that comes up in search when you enter the phrase I mentioned is to a google book:
"Astrology: Art and Science" By Sandy Anastasi.
This a quote from the book -

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I am making a point that others have tried to make again and again about generalizing by Sun sign and this time the generalization does not match the stereotype to top it off.

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We've all been making this point for the past decade or so on LL - and not much has changed. It's an astrology site and sometimes people do generalise.
Although, as I tried to explain to you, I was not generalising in this thread

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There is a difference between feeling hurt and being annoyed.....

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posted September 24, 2014 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Ohhhhhh...

So much

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posted September 24, 2014 10:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Hey AG! What's up? I'm good.. I've just been busy and worn out lol

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posted September 24, 2014 10:25 PM            

To me this shows CLEARLY that when this author mentions addiction and codependency he is referring to the PISCES side of the axis which is known famously for this and the words following "service and discrimination" is referring to the virgo side of this axis which is known famously for this!

posted September 24, 2014 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Any person can have problems with drugs, but the Pisces/Virgo axis - as well as 12th/6th houses are said to be directly related to drugs, by -some-(not all) astrologers.
As is the case (in Astrology) with anything else a sign or house rules - people with these influences are thought to be in either extreme, e.g. health fanatic or drug addict.

I'm curious how many pages this thread will go to purely because you are mistaking...

a) personal experience... and
b) one (of many) astrological ideas that you can easily google - for...

"Generalisation"

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posted September 24, 2014 11:09 PM            

But ever since Tran Jupiter started conjuncting my personal planets things have been going back to normal.

posted September 25, 2014 01:11 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
hahahahha

Damnnn Girl, no drugs during your wisdom teeth removal, impressiveeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Add to the list great self esteem and not caring what people think!

I do agree with your point about not feeling in control..I think that is why I dont get addicted or avoid things that cause physical dependence....The only drug that I have tried that causes physical dependence which I did ongoing was cigarettes and even when I smoked cigarettes it was mostly social and only for a while did I do it daily and when I did do it daily I only smoked ONE cigarette a day bc of that fear of becoming too addicted and losing control. Once I made up my mind to quit for health reasons and lets face it cigs are gross, I did it pretty quickly; my husband and I quit together actually and I was stronger than him about it. I dont like the idea of feeling like I NEED Something at all.

But I know you mean losing control of your senses which I understand that too although if done responsibly at the right age range in your 20s at home surrounded by people you trust and avoiding anything you can overdose on or that causes physical dependence I think its an experience that will expand your mind if done infrequently recreationally although NOT for everyone.

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Well, I made it to 36 without the recreational aspects of drugs. It's just not for me. I guess I grew up with the 'bad' kind of drug users, so I just was never interested.

However, that said... I DO NOT judge recreational drug users. I was actually part of the campaign fight to get WA I-502 (the marijuana reform initiative) on the ballot. I was that person asking people, "excuse me.. are you a registered voter?" lol!

posted September 25, 2014 02:41 AM            

“Care in diet is essential to the health of Virgo people; plenty of fibre, roughage and fresh vegetables are the best recommendation for them. Smoking, other forms of drugs and alcohol are very harmful to them; some become drug addicts or alcoholics, or become dependent on prescription drugs and analgesics.”

Thread on drug use and Virgos: http://visforvirgo.tribe.net/thread/25f83e82-261a-4848-b8d0-252ce81d42cf

“Pisces and Virgo addiction issues are interchangeable, as one always has and typically exercises the option to mirror its opposite. It's sometimes helpful to consider each sign as only a half of one of the SIX signs of the zodiac, particularly when we consider these "two" mutable water and earth signs.”

posted September 25, 2014 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Do you like your new place AG?

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posted September 25, 2014 08:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Well, I made it to 36 without the recreational aspects of drugs. It's just not for me. I guess I grew up with the 'bad' kind of drug users, so I just was never interested.

However, that said... I DO NOT judge recreational drug users. I was actually part of the campaign fight to get WA I-502 (the marijuana reform initiative) on the ballot. I was that person asking people, "excuse me.. are you a registered voter?" lol!

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That is awesome, love ya! Like your style.

posted September 25, 2014 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Milton Black (well known astrologer): https://miltonblack.com.au/freestarclub/virgo/index.htm

“Care in diet is essential to the health of Virgo people; plenty of fibre, roughage and fresh vegetables are the best recommendation for them. Smoking, other forms of drugs and alcohol are very harmful to them; [b]some become drug addicts or alcoholics, or become dependent on prescription drugs and analgesics.”

Thread on drug use and Virgos: http://visforvirgo.tribe.net/thread/25f83e82-261a-4848-b8d0-252ce81d42cf

“Pisces and Virgo addiction issues are interchangeable, as one always has and typically exercises the option to mirror its opposite. It's sometimes helpful to consider each sign as only a half of one of the SIX signs of the zodiac, particularly when we consider these "two" mutable water and earth signs.”

All I’m saying is this is a -line of thought- in astrology. It’s not like I singlehandedly decided to "make up" that Virgo and Pisces (as well as the 6th and 12th houses) are connected to addiction. [/B]

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Hello Goodmorning,

I get you did not make it up and some astrologers treat the axis like their interchangeable even though they are suppose to be opposites and I feel perhaps those astrologers take that interchangeability too far as they are opposites after all. I dont think caps and cancers are similar and I dont think aquas and leos are similar.

But this is the thing this quote; "some become drug addicts or alcoholics, or become dependent on prescription drugs and analgesics," applies to all signs. I work at a facility with psychiatrists and all we do is prescribe drugs, trust me when I tell you its not a virgo thing its all the signs and I check charts often and I dont see virgo Sun signs or placements popping up a lot either on the contrary I would go as far as to say that other signs and placements frequent this facility more.

However I have not done a statistical analysis. If someone does a research at a drug rehab facility that controls for neptune aspects and pisces placements and in spite of controlling for this Virgo comes up to be statistically significantly higher in drug ABUSE than the rest of the zodiac including pisces then you got my attention.

It just seems these astrologers are just conveniently lumping virgos with pisces with the axis excuse in this matter without backing it up with research which means is based on personal observation which can be very biased.

I have sun in virgo opposing moon in pisces and this forms a tsquare with neptune in the first. I would think that this would mean I have huge drug addiction and I don't have an addictive personality which I give credit to my sun in virgo which keeps the neptune influence in check.

Since I have this opposition I understand very well this axis bt virgo and pisces, very well. Virgos who do not have a strong neptune influence are nothing like pisces. Oppositions are about perception it allows you to see both sides and my opposition is involving the luminaries.

My Virgo Sun wants to be sober and in control and be able to function and be responsible, it wants to be here in the now, focused and productive, it wants to check off things of my list to do. My virgo sun does not want to depend on anything; maintaining control, independence and been responsible are high priorities.

Moon in Pisces wants to merge, likes the idea of losing control and experiencing other worlds and likes to use drugs to experience different states of consciousness or to escape this earthly mundane monotonous boring harsh reality we live in and daily responsibility and instead day dream, dream, watch movies and shows, write or read a novel, astro travel or alter consciousness with drugs; that is what my moon in pisces is thinking.

posted September 25, 2014 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That is awesome, love ya! Like your style.

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D'awwwww.