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VenusDiSirius
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posted August 13, 2012 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting bits in this thread...


--- As a general guidance,for both whiners and non-whiners!

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posted August 13, 2012 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
i knw the answer to this!!!! hehe.. cos if acting dumb gets things done, why not? Smart move. (...) Btw, dun ya knw the person who is self sufficient n cn do everything n anything gets to do everything..

You are so wise

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posted August 13, 2012 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Lonake, it doesnt surprise me that you feel that way. at least online, you are not a very sweet person. and that usually shows someone who has built a hard shell around them which will prevent weakness from showing through.

Well of course my opinion in my post shouldn't surprise you; I've only mentioned it 100 times

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posted August 13, 2012 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

My ex boss, Sagittarius Sun, Leo Moon had this EXACT PHRASE in her office.
I saw it and immed knew we were gonna get along (!) She was awesome.

Maybe it is a Fire thing (OP issue) in part?

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posted August 13, 2012 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a quote or something that says that people don't want you to be perfect. They want to love someone who isn't perfect, it makes them feel okay about themselves too. If you're right all the time, or strong all the time, you're not lovable. People know that's fake. They don't see the human quality there that they can relate to. That's wise right there.

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posted August 13, 2012 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be,fire gets things done,and dislike those who don't + those they have to "drag along"

But,sand is Pluto Riser,and H1 Sat/Mars in Scorp. I think it could be the case of visceral dislike for weakness.

Saturn knows that there are hardships in life,so normal - doesn't complain,works on it.
And Scorp energy is the self-sufficient machine.

I also think that this type of people are strong on consideration,so when things really go wrong,they wouldn't complain for the sake of those they love.

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posted August 13, 2012 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
There's a quote or something that says that people don't want you to be perfect. They want to love someone who isn't perfect, it makes them feel okay about themselves too. If you're right all the time, or strong all the time, you're not lovable. People know that's fake. They don't see the human quality there that they can relate to. That's wise right there.

The words of a true people pleaser.

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posted August 13, 2012 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't be if I've made you hate me so much, eh? (And proud of it I am )

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posted August 13, 2012 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good points, Venus
Ever since my Sun progressed to Aries I've really embraced this side of myself.
Just thought I was getting older and didn't care as much what others thought, but I may be growing older with Aries on my side No complaints (!)
Yes Scorpio is a very strong sign. Right up there with Aries and Capricorn.
and he did mention it in his 1st post,

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Originally posted by sand:
is it scorpio that hates this? ..aries?

So Sand buddy I think you're on the right track.
Don't let anyone change you, with all your Fixed qualities how could they
But is your P Sun in Gemini and are you open to backhanded suggestion?

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posted August 13, 2012 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's what you do now, you've become the whiner. You whine about whiners and take their place.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sand, maybe this feeling stems from some inner fear of your own weaknesses. we all have weaknesses and maybe, you try to shield them and therefore when you sense someone else's weaknesses you get that strange feeling which you confuse with resentment..

there's nothing wrong with being a "people pleaser" as long as it doesn't affect your own happiness.. personally i don't judge people by what I perceive as weakness because strength is not easy to spot, but it is always there somewhere..

you have to make sure not to confuse vulnerable with weakness, those people who put their hearts on their sleeves are truly fearless..

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posted August 13, 2012 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To those who may agree with this thread, that you dislike weakness in others. I encourage you to think about the following quotes:

It always seemed strange to me that the things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, aquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first, they love the produce of the second.
~ John Steinbeck

“It's so sad how we can go through life hating people, thinking that they are so different from us. It is only when we see them at their weakest point, seeing their vulnerability, that we start to realize how similar we all actually are to one another.”

“The three hardest tasks in the world are neither physical feats nor intellectual achievements, but moral acts: to return love for hate, to include the excluded, and to say, I was wrong.” - Sydney J. Harris

"Be soft. Do not let the world make you hard. Do not let pain make you hate. Do not let bitterness steal your sweetness. Take pride that even though the rest of the world may disagree, you still believe it to be a beautiful place." -Kurt Vonnegut

Take some time to meditate on compassion. Please. This makes me sad.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wise words, Venus!

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posted August 13, 2012 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I can't be if I've made you hate me so much, eh? (And proud of it I am )

I don't hate you,silly girl. I just don't have respect for your opinion.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshift:
Here's my question to you Sand. Does it make a difference if someone is demanding you be strong for them versus someone actually needs your help, but hasn't specifically asked for it. Example: someone you love is going through a hard time, they aren't complaining or asking for anything, but it's getting the better of them, you can tell...does that make you angry with them, or do you want to help?

it's always different with loved ones of course..

but u know i think i even test partners for strength just to see if they would hold their ground..

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posted August 13, 2012 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I don't hate you,silly girl. I just don't have respect for your opinion.

Please. Save your words. Like I said, I'm proud of it. It's a compliment that you dislike me. Look at your reaction to what I said. There is something wrong with you. With all of you who are saying this.

Sand, you test your girlfriends to see if they can hold their ground? There's something wrong there. There is.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpy_oh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
To those who may agree with this thread, that you dislike weakness in others. I encourage you to think about the following quotes:

“The three hardest tasks in the world are neither physical feats nor intellectual achievements, but moral acts: to return love for hate, to include the excluded, and to say, I was wrong.” - Sydney J. Harris

"Be soft. Do not let the world make you hard. Do not let pain make you hate. Do not let bitterness steal your sweetness. Take pride that even though the rest of the world may disagree, you still believe it to be a beautiful place." -Kurt Vonnegut

Take some time to meditate on compassion. Please. This makes me sad.


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posted August 13, 2012 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Please. Save your words. Like I said, I'm proud of it. It's a compliment that you dislike me. Look at your reaction to what I said. There is something wrong with you. With all of you who are saying this.

Sand, you test your girlfriends to see if they can hold their ground? There's something wrong there. There is.


And there wasn't nothing wrong with me while you were at good terms with me?
Do you know what sweet lemon is? That's your "proud of it" attitude.

You can use arguments,not everything needs to be personal.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpy_oh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
let's just agree to disagree. people have a right to their own opinions. so let's get back to the original question

like i've said, scorpio can go both ways and aries lacks the patience.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VenusDiSirius: I don't make it personal. I'm not the one. Like I said once before in another thread, every time you disrespect me, YOU make it personal. The way you quoted what I said was disrespectful. Stop playing the blame game (and playing the ANGEL) and deal with the fact that I DON'T care. I really just don't. haha.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpy_oh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you think that the sign on the 11th house cusp or planets in the 11th house is significant? for example, a person with pisces on the 11th would be most likely to be compassionate towards acquaintances/friends whereas virgo on the 11th would be more critical of such behavior.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have virgo on the 11th. so nope

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posted August 13, 2012 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He didn't exactly say he wasn't compassionate, I read it as just a few things he can't stand.
And the testing is so Scorpio.
I remember a super sweet Sun/Pluto Scorp conj young man throwing tests at me when we were gradually getting to know each other and right away I knew what he was doing, so I never took it personally or as an offense. They get to that place where they do it for a reason and you can't really fault em for it. They just need someone who will see past all that, so you take your time, show them that it doesn't throw you off balance, and let them feel comfortable.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
VenusDiSirius: I don't make it personal. I'm not the one. Like I said once before in another thread, every time you disrespect me, YOU make it personal. The way you quoted what I said was disrespectful. Stop playing the blame game (and playing the ANGEL) and deal with the fact that I DON'T care. I really just don't. haha.

"haha." Well,that sums it up nicely.

I do like wings...!
And what are you doing by saying "there is something wrong with you,all of you" That's not disrespect,of course not. Sweet person wouldn't do that.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scorpy_oh:
do you think that the sign on the 11th house cusp or planets in the 11th house is significant? for example, a person with pisces on the 11th would be most likely to be compassionate towards acquaintances/friends whereas virgo on the 11th would be more critical of such behavior.

i think it depends on more factors than that....mostly the moon i think....

i have cap 11 house cusp and i have no problems with others weaknesses

actually...i understand it completly....if a person cant trust you with his weakness....how can he trust you at all?

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