posted August 13, 2012 10:11 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

It is not weakness having flaw,but flaunting it. Not dealing with it. Settling to it. Ignoring it. Blaming other people and whining about it. Seeing the right thing,being able to do something about and not doing it. Not being responsible to yourself and people who care about you. Not having guts. Rolling in the misery,thriving on that. Projecting,or writing off strong people who don't seek attention or your approval as "probably insecure,inside". Using "nobody is perfect" as life mantra. Being threatened by and not accepting the fact that there are better people than you. - Weakling.

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posted August 13, 2012 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
first off I think its extremely judgemental to call anyone weak, because you dont know what they have been through. as you all know i vent alot about women and their choice in men, and you all probably think i'm just a big whiner, but i only do this because this issue affects me in a very personal way. My mom and sister have kind of made my life hell with their choices in men, and i look out into the world at large and see this same stuff happening all the time and i cant help but be a bit frustrated

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posted August 13, 2012 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
yes of course these things are always personal.. but do you plan on doing something about it?

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posted August 13, 2012 10:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Sand, hon, it's all over this thread, with few exceptions.
I esp like the ones that jumped to conclusions re:your offline character (from strangers no less).
Good chuckles from those (!)
Problem with this thread is people are reading you out of context and projecting onto you.
Hard to get some resolution also when people can't stick to the astrology of things. Shrugs.
And seriously re:Gemini, you make jokes and keep it light, spin people around in circles, works every time.

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Hi lilithpluto, I'm not a fan of having fans (not really kosher to my Saturn/Capricorn side) but if you like what I post sometimes then OK, but if not that's OK too

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sand:
[b] btw here's my smiley for redscorp who is mia lately..

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i think my cancer mc loves the feedback as well. all data to be analysed at some point.

posted August 14, 2012 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
You remind me of the girls in high school that looked down on me for being fat. Ten years later I'd run into them at the store and they were so shamefaced it hard to watch. I was thin and fine and they were fat slobs and it stung. LOL. It was all there on their faces. So sweet.

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posted August 14, 2012 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

It is not weakness having flaw,but flaunting it.

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I was just saying, real people have flaws, and I equate flaws with weakness. If you don't, then we disagree about the meaning of the term "weakness."

RAS mentioned how weakness can be endearing, so I was particularly addressing the kinds of "weakness" which I have found endearing. Not repugnant stuff.

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There's a quote or something that says that people don't want you to be perfect. They want to love someone who isn't perfect, it makes them feel okay about themselves too. If you're right all the time, or strong all the time, you're not lovable. People know that's fake. They don't see the human quality there that they can relate to. That's wise right there.

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As I see it, she was describing the natural process of letting one's guard down. This is just about relatively normal people showing each other their scars and complexity,"the human quality there that they can relate to." I wasn't even thinking of exceptionally weak, slovenly, offensive sorts of people, because the quote is about love and relating to someone, and if you get that far, it's just assumed that the person is NOT a total a**hole.

posted August 14, 2012 02:54 AM            

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Oh, and just because someone has been through tough times doesn't erase the fact that they might be weak. Understanding where they come from doesn't change the fact that they are weak.

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I don't present an argument because there's no way I can change your mind. It's common sense. If you still think someone is weak, then that means you -don't- understand where they come from. According to behavioral analysis in psychology, just keeping someone dependent on you and doing everything for them is one of the worst things you could do to them. That's obviously pretty minor and can have big consequences, and there are a million other things people can go through that can leave them feeling like they can't stand up to others such as emotional abuse from family members. If there is someone who is irresponsibly hurting the lives of others and leeching off of others with a deliberate plan in mind, then you can call that person an abuser rather than a "weakling."

Sand described things from being physically weak to being dumb. And others have described people who so much as complain on the internet, to people who can't stand up to others and grow weak in somebody's presence, to people who don't have confidence in their own abilities. That is NOT the same thing as being a deliberate abuser of what's offered to you.

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Originally posted by sand:

i post here about everything/ anything but IRL i do something about it

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lol that's pretty hypocritical. how do you know if other people aren't trying to do something about it, too? and u come and complain about weak people, right? Can u do anything about that in the world or are u doing it? no ur not doing anything about it, so there, you are just complaining. Everybody complains, lord jesus. That's why there was one guy on the forum who left because he said the forum had become everyone's diary. lmao! I bet he judged us all as "weaklings" (yeah, i like using that word venus di sirius used a lot) and had to leave the forum because he couldnt bare all the "complaining" we do. LOL what an arrogant prick. If you call someone a weakling YOU are hypocritical because plain and simply you inevitably do that yourself at some point. Whether you think you are doing something to improve that or not (whatever that quality may be), what makes you think others arent trying to improve their faults as well?

Lonake, you may complain about others complaining, but all i see you doing is being critical and negative all the time, isnt that the SAME thing? (sorry if ur feeling pretty attacked lonake, u have been quite nice to me throughout this entire thread, but ur the only one i can point a finger at right now bc i honestly dont see the other posters here being that negative so cant really single them out like that. lol sorry again. but im just saying, even being negative and mean is a form of complaining. It may be a way of complaining that tries really hard not to show weakness (which is even worse), but the weakness is still there. Only someone who is happy all the time and not bothered by anything has no weakness.)

There. i just wrote this really long paragraph. that should be common sense. it isnt going to convince any of you, because like i said, u cant soften somebody's hard and arrogant heart. i know it's pointless, but oh well.

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posted August 14, 2012 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Well you've just earned an A+ for determination.
It's surely been an interesting experience watching you run around in circles.
Can't say I've been entertained. But I have been educated.

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okay I will take that as a compliment. thank you lonake. no sarcasm, on the real.

lol i'm a cancer. can't stand lack of compassion. that's supposed to be like our pet peeve, no? You're insensitive? You get the krabby klaws, grrr! lol.
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posted August 14, 2012 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
yes of course these things are always personal.. but do you plan on doing something about it?

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