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Topic: so i kinda dislike weakness..
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sand
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From: 14.5530° N, 121.0199° E
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posted August 13, 2012 08:22 AM
  
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Originally posted by Lonake:
So Sand buddy I think you're on the right track.
Don't let anyone change you, with all your Fixed qualities how could they 
 But is your P Sun in Gemini and are you open to backhanded suggestion?
sure! what could that be? IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted August 13, 2012 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
You are so wise
 Ahhh... honestly, I'm a fan of you when you are in a not so bitting mood. But I seriously love reading your posts! IP: Logged |
sand
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posted August 13, 2012 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Venus:
sand, maybe this feeling stems from some inner fear of your own weaknesses. we [b]all have weaknesses and maybe, you try to shield them and therefore when you sense someone else's weaknesses you get that strange feeling which you confuse with resentment..you have to make sure not to confuse vulnerable with weakness, those people who put their hearts on their sleeves are truly fearless..[/B]
sure y not? it's possible.. i never thought it was a weakness anyway the heart on their sleeve thing.. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted August 13, 2012 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by geea:
that's what you do now, you've become the whiner. You whine about whiners and take their place.
no i do not. i post here about everything/ anything but IRL i do something about it. there's a difference. plus i had a smiley in my first post!  IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted August 13, 2012 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Sand, you test your girlfriends to see if they can hold their ground? There's something wrong there. There is.
Lol.., I do this all the time. Lol. I admit and have been told that I do things that make my relationship more difficult but I can honestly say that I find all my ex sexy, humourous, intelligent, who can hold their own against me and not get bullied.. I can be so mischevious sometimes. I can understand why Sand does that too..  IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted August 13, 2012 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
plus i had a smiley in my first post!
Too late,too late IP: Logged |
sand
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posted August 13, 2012 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Sand, you test your girlfriends to see if they can hold their ground? There's something wrong there. There is.
yes i do and perhaps there is but it's very very much who i am. i don't set up traps or anything to see if they fail but when a disagreement comes i want someone that can stand up to it.. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted August 13, 2012 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
yes i do and perhaps there is but it's very very much who i am. i don't set up traps or anything to see if they fail but when a disagreement comes i want someone that can stand up to it..
oh well that's different. why ain'tcha say so! :P thats okay sandy pandy. but you sah-cared me. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted August 13, 2012 08:51 AM
I dislike weakness of other woman; I wasn't raised to be weak and it irritates me when I see women whine about men, or not being able to do something, women who take orders from men instantly without a second thought,people who whine about things being impossible before they even make a good attempt at it etc.Weakness isn't simply about not having the strength to do something. Compassion isn't weak, having a physical disability isn't weak, its about not opening your mind to other opinions available and/or not asking someone for help if you truly don't have the ability to do something there are moments when asking someone for help takes greater strength then going at something alone. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted August 13, 2012 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
oh well that's different. why ain'tcha say so! :Pthats okay sandy pandy. but you sah-cared me.
because it is still testing rassy no matter what the intentions or the methods..   IP: Logged |
sand
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posted August 13, 2012 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Too late,too late
btw here's my smiley for redscorp who is mia lately..  IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted August 13, 2012 09:03 AM
According to Parker's Astrology, Leo hates weakness more than any other sign.My experience with Leos confirms that for me.
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Faith
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posted August 13, 2012 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
There's a quote or something that says that people don't want you to be perfect. They want to love someone who isn't perfect, it makes them feel okay about themselves too. If you're right all the time, or strong all the time, you're not lovable. People know that's fake. They don't see the human quality there that they can relate to. That's wise right there.
I agree with this. quote:
you have to make sure not to confuse vulnerable with weakness, those people who put their hearts on their sleeves are truly fearless..
And this. Edit: Actually, I think some people put their hearts on their sleeves in spite of their fear, which makes it a matter of courage, not fearlessness. And some do it because they aren't reading social cues that would warn them of the consequences, and come to regret ever divulging so much. As a Cap, or course I do see the value of restraint, but like everything else, one can overdo restraint. So what I admire is balance. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted August 13, 2012 09:46 AM
Faith,how can you agree with that? How is it good to find something/someone going bad in the external world and feel good about it,since it somewhat mirrors your condition/feelings?
It feels nice when someone who has been through same path as you,and can sympathize,but if it is a bad experience,I'd rather have no one feeling that way. Other people's rough times doesn't make me feel good about myself,no matter how much our situation can be similar. In fact,it makes things worse. Why need for the company? Utter selfishness.Why searching for the confirmations outside? If there is inner peace,and clarity,there is no need for projections. ************ Maybe there aren't perfect people,but there sure are some pretty good ones. Just say no to collective identification. Also,no one should mistake vulnerability for weakness. Even nature makes sure that's clear - babies,for example,are not weak but vulnerable. Their appearance,big eyes - signs of innocence,are to wake up the protector in those who surround them. Weakness,on the other hand,tends to be diminished,with species perishing,and so on. IP: Logged |
Lehia2
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posted August 13, 2012 09:48 AM
I used to dislike weak people in general but I think I've outgrown it. I can be a whiney person whenever I'm feeling lazy but I'm mostly b****y. I do hate it when someone thinks of themselves as "strong" because they don't cry or similar. If your best friend dies and you don't cry, it doesn't make you strong; it makes you either emotionally cold, shy, or maybe you just don't like to cry. But it doesn't mean you're strong.
The same goes for someone who cries over a broken nail: it doesn't make them weak, it just makes them a cry-baby. I always thought it was a Capricorn trait.
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Faith
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posted August 13, 2012 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Faith,how can you agree with that?
I guess your interpretation of the quote is just different from mine. Going by the assumption that everyone DOES have weaknesses, I think it's good when people are aware of, and conversant about, those weaknesses. To me, it's disarming when someone is candid about themselves. For instance, I went to school with a girl who I thought was an aloof, pampered, too-good-for-this-world sort of person. Then I read in an alumni magazine that she had written a book about having an eating disorder. The fact that she HAD the disorder and could admit that broke down my perception of her as someone living in an ivory tower. So I contacted her, and that was the beginning of what is now a very close friendship. Interestingly, she had always perceived me as tough as nails and was surprised at my sensitivity. Point is, a bond was formed when we communicated more broadly. When we both dropped the facade of invulnerability, we found that we actually had the kind of chemistry conducive to trust, and with that trust, we can be expansively honest with each other. She's a Leo, btw.
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aquaguy91
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posted August 13, 2012 02:32 PM
first off I think its extremely judgemental to call anyone weak, because you dont know what they have been through. as you all know i vent alot about women and their choice in men, and you all probably think i'm just a big whiner, but i only do this because this issue affects me in a very personal way. My mom and sister have kind of made my life hell with their choices in men, and i look out into the world at large and see this same stuff happening all the time and i cant help but be a bit frustratedIP: Logged |
frankie2912
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posted August 13, 2012 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
have u ever thought about what life experiences might have made these people this way? maybe emotional abuse in their family, not being allowed to assert their own power?
have some compassion first and foremost. what do u know what other people have been through? u never know. btw---you become ur strongest when in the presence of people u consider weak? What does that mean?Lonake, it doesnt surprise me that you feel that way. at least online, you are not a very sweet person. and that usually shows someone who has built a hard shell around them which will prevent weakness from showing through.
Your life experiences are not all that define you. If you were suppressed or taught to be weak or stupid, you should take it upon yourself to change that. And what I mean by becoming stronger in the presence of weak people is that when I notice that others are weak-willed, it amplifies my strengths. I work with a lot of weak-willed people and while I don't treat them differently, I suddenly become MORE assertive. I help them out, but I still think a bit differently of them. IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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posted August 13, 2012 03:09 PM
Oh, and just because someone has been through tough times doesn't erase the fact that they might be weak. Understanding where they come from doesn't change the fact that they are weak.I have my own weaknesses, of course, but I work to strengthen. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I'm not compassionate. You're throwing an awful lot of judgement around. Don't you ever think that maybe what we've been through is what makes us think we are strong compared to others? Have some compassion for us! IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted August 13, 2012 03:42 PM
Frankie:you dont have compassion for others, why should i have some for you quote:
Originally posted by doommlord:
i have no problems with others weaknessesactually...i understand it completly....if a person cant trust you with his weakness....how can he trust you at all?
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 13, 2012 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
first off I think its extremely judgemental to call anyone weak, because you dont know what they have been through. as you all know i vent alot about women and their choice in men, and you all probably think i'm just a big whiner, but i only do this because this issue affects me in a very personal way. My mom and sister have kind of made my life hell with their choices in men, and i look out into the world at large and see this same stuff happening all the time and i cant help but be a bit frustrated
If you don't care, they don't matter. Also,I note that lots are readily willing to dish out the crap but can't stomach it. People who live in glass houses... IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted August 13, 2012 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
If you don't care, they don't matter. Also,I note that lots are readily willing to dish out the crap but can't stomach it. People who live in glass houses...
yes i know, but it bothers me. and thats very true. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted August 13, 2012 05:45 PM
I notice that when women speak out they're called feisty lol just sayinIP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 13, 2012 05:47 PM
Sand, hon, it's all over this thread, with few exceptions.
I esp like the ones that jumped to conclusions re:your offline character (from strangers no less).
Good chuckles from those (!)
Problem with this thread is people are reading you out of context and projecting onto you.
Hard to get some resolution also when people can't stick to the astrology of things. Shrugs.
And seriously re:Gemini, you make jokes and keep it light, spin people around in circles, works every time..
. Hi lilithpluto, I'm not a fan of having fans (not really kosher to my Saturn/Capricorn side) but if you like what I post sometimes then OK, but if not that's OK too .
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Originally posted by sand:
btw here's my smiley for redscorp who is mia lately..
Appropriate, natch.  IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted August 13, 2012 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
I guess your interpretation of the quote is just different from mine.Going by the assumption that everyone DOES have weaknesses, I think it's good when people are aware of, and conversant about, those weaknesses. To me, it's disarming when someone is candid about themselves. For instance, I went to school with a girl who I thought was an aloof, pampered, too-good-for-this-world sort of person. Then I read in an alumni magazine that she had written a book about having an eating disorder. The fact that she HAD the disorder and could admit that broke down my perception of her as someone living in an ivory tower. So I contacted her, and that was the beginning of what is now a very close friendship. Interestingly, she had always perceived me as tough as nails and was surprised at my sensitivity. Point is, a bond was formed when we communicated more broadly. When we both dropped the facade of invulnerability, we found that we actually had the kind of chemistry conducive to trust, and with that trust, we can be expansively honest with each other. She's a Leo, btw.
People can throw up,write books in the ivory towers,too. That's doesn't make tower less of a tower (which you preconceived,mind you)
Actually,I would think highly of her,she is someone who faces her demons,and not just that,but shared her experiences - but I wouldn't say "thank god for her and her problem,otherwise she wouldn't help other people".
It is not weakness having flaw,but flaunting it. Not dealing with it. Settling to it. Ignoring it. Blaming other people and whining about it. Seeing the right thing,being able to do something about and not doing it. Not being responsible to yourself and people who care about you. Not having guts. Rolling in the misery,thriving on that. Projecting,or writing off strong people who don't seek attention or your approval as "probably insecure,inside". Using "nobody is perfect" as life mantra. Being threatened by and not accepting the fact that there are better people than you. - Weakling. IP: Logged |
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