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sand
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posted January 13, 2013 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by violet7887:
wow you really are a taurus! i'm starting to think recently that maybe everything really just comes back to your sun sign. maybe is it useless to dig deeper than that!

I kind of always knew I could play that card. Idk y. I just knew. It's what I attract. Could be the venus too u know.

I don't believe in digging that deep astro wise. Especially with issues. I mean we don't need astro to tell us we have so and so problems. U can observe that IRL. I'm more interested in the solutions.

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posted January 13, 2013 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
I kind of always knew I could play that card. Idk y. I just knew. It's what I attract. Could be the venus too u know.

I don't believe in digging that deep astro wise. Especially with issues. I mean we don't need astro to tell us we have so and so problems. U can observe that IRL. I'm more interested in the solutions.



Really? i thought you were all about it with all your questions! I guess you are just here for the hell of it then huh:/ Btw Saand, you cant have solutions with out questions.

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posted January 13, 2013 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^i was but my astrologer didn't do a lot of fancy stuff and he still got the major issues I needed help with right so maybe I should rethink some methods just like u and ur sun sign only thang..

I really am fond of getting professional readings now. I am looking for someone who knows palmistry now locally. I feel they are great time savers.

Oh y I got here.. easy: crisis.

..and the feedback

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posted January 13, 2013 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
^i was but my astrologer didn't do a lot of fancy stuff and he still got the major issues I needed help with right so maybe I should rethink some methods just like u and ur sun sign only thang..

I really am fond of getting professional readings now. I am looking for someone who knows palmistry now locally. I feel they are great time savers.

Oh y I got here.. easy: crisis.

..and the feedback


okay, what ever floats your boat sand.

I'm off to have some peach-ginger green tea to and then sleep. Good night to you!

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posted January 13, 2013 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok goodnight!

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posted January 11, 2017 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart apparently would indicate I'm a golddigger, but I'm not. I have a Capricorn 7th house stellium an Capricorn is my most dominant sign. My 7th house ruler Saturn is in the 8th house. My 2nd house ruler is the sun and it's in Taurus conjunct the 11th house cusp. My Venus is in my 10th house of Aries. My moon is in Capricorn.

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posted January 11, 2017 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn doesn't make sense to me as a gold digger anyway. They're supposed to be too independent and hard working for that, never be satisfied with merely riding someone else's coattails, and a woman that marries rich to be the princess is putting her fate into his hands. If a Cappie married for the wealth, then I expect it's to then take that money to invest in her own business (or maybe to get that degree) rather than living the life of a pampered pet.

Perhaps a few centuries ago it was different given that the ONLY way most women could advance was by marriage (hard to say given how many marriages were arranged anyway, sometimes before the poor guy or girl even thought seriously of marriage, and were pretty much restricted marrying into their own class, caste, religion, etc), though even then I picture a Cappie woman more as a courtesan rather than a gold digging bride (especially when courtesans and other mistresses typically got treated better than wives as they often were then and today, and courtesans were even known to use their favors, sexual and otherwise, to help their own husbands and/or children advance in society).

That said, they (generally speaking and ignoring other aspects of the chart) do place a pragmatic value on security, including financial, and I find it unlikely they'd tolerate someone just coasting by (especially on the Cappie's hard won earnings), at least not without putting down some hard (and possibly harsh) rules, and male or (especially) female would definitely consider wealth, hard work, and earning potential as ONE important consideration. They can be elitist (especially if born into an elite class) and MAY mistake money for class (especially if s/he is born wealthy). In that case, I can see them coming off as gold diggers, but I don't think they are (especially as such a wo/man is likely to have one's own cash anyway).

I've known plenty of Capricorns, and while they could be pragmatic to a degree bordering on merciless at times, and placed a high value on their own financial security, they could be very generous to those they thought were worth it. Even those Cappies I've known who pragmatically used people and did some brown nosing (as so many do, they just hid it less) were still sincere in their devotion (and hard work) to friends, families, and spouses. I've generally valued my Capricorn sun clients as they always kept their side of the bargain, and while not an open book who could play their cards close to their chests it was rare that I actually felt cheated. I know that if I ever started my own charity that I'd look for a Capricorn sun to help as they can be giving and charitable without being a sucker or head in the clouds about it, and I'd know I'd find one (of course I'd thoroughly vet anyone I brought onto my team, regardless of their sign).

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posted January 11, 2017 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

HAHAHAHAHA!

I'm going to have to include that on the humor thread.

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posted January 11, 2017 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imagine a topic like that being started in today's LL. OP would get shamed, and Randall would be privately e-mailed to close thread.

Imagine that.

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posted January 11, 2017 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegasdlt36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun, Venus, and Neptune in 2nd house and my moon is in Capricorn. Did I pass the test? ha.

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posted January 11, 2017 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Capricorn

- naturally admires certain traits in people that tend to result in them having a lot of money (intelligence, perseverance, the ability to delay gratification and save up.)

- often feels more at home with older people, and older people tend to have more money

- likes what they like and will marry someone they love even if it looks to the rest of the wold like a gold-digging situation. Caps hate to have people commenting like that, making assumptions. But if they love someone it doesn't matter.

Just because a man is wealthy, that doesn't negate his other qualities; it doesn't mean that no one will ever love him for who he is.

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posted January 11, 2017 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Capricorn doesn't make sense to me as a gold digger anyway. They're supposed to be too independent and hard working for that, never be satisfied with merely riding someone else's coattails, and a woman that marries rich to be the princess is putting her fate into his hands. If a Cappie married for the wealth, then I expect it's to then take that money to invest in her own business (or maybe to get that degree) rather than living the life of a pampered pet.

Perhaps a few centuries ago it was different given that the ONLY way most women could advance was by marriage (hard to say given how many marriages were arranged anyway, sometimes before the poor guy or girl even thought seriously of marriage, and were pretty much restricted marrying into their own class, caste, religion, etc), though even then I picture a Cappie woman more as a courtesan rather than a gold digging bride (especially when courtesans and other mistresses typically got treated better than wives as they often were then and today, and courtesans were even known to use their favors, sexual and otherwise, to help their own husbands and/or children advance in society).

That said, they (generally speaking and ignoring other aspects of the chart) do place a pragmatic value on security, including financial, and I find it unlikely they'd tolerate someone just coasting by (especially on the Cappie's hard won earnings), at least not without putting down some hard (and possibly harsh) rules, and male or (especially) female would definitely consider wealth, hard work, and earning potential as ONE important consideration. They can be elitist (especially if born into an elite class) and MAY mistake money for class (especially if s/he is born wealthy). In that case, I can see them coming off as gold diggers, but I don't think they are (especially as such a wo/man is likely to have one's own cash anyway).

I've known plenty of Capricorns, and while they could be pragmatic to a degree bordering on merciless at times, and placed a high value on their own financial security, they could be very generous to those they thought were worth it. Even those Cappies I've known who pragmatically used people and did some brown nosing (as so many do, they just hid it less) were still sincere in their devotion (and hard work) to friends, families, and spouses. I've generally valued my Capricorn sun clients as they always kept their side of the bargain, and while not an open book who could play their cards close to their chests it was rare that I actually felt cheated. I know that if I ever started my own charity that I'd look for a Capricorn sun to help as they can be giving and charitable without being a sucker or head in the clouds about it, and I'd know I'd find one (of course I'd thoroughly vet anyone I brought onto my team, regardless of their sign).


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posted January 11, 2017 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elise3090     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in capricorn,leo or scorpio
venus in capricorn,leo or scorpio
venus/moon aspects
venus/saturn aspects
mars in libra
mars in taurus

sun or mars in 8,sun or mars in 10 house (to women)
some womam with sun or mars in these houses can be very workholic when others womem with this project all they work and reputation potencial in they pretendents,leveraging her position as a woman in society

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posted January 11, 2017 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:


Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with being a hooker. But that's for another thread.

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posted January 11, 2017 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a scorpio that was in relationship out of convenience- and leo and aquarius who have a history of cahsing after rich men.

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posted January 11, 2017 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my general rule of thumb: never expect someone to possess qualities, education or social standing that you don't possess as well. So if you are a high school dropout who is working at McDonald's well into your 30s, then it would be ridiculous of you to expect your spouse or significant other to be a millionaire with a PhD.

When there is a massive disparity in education (Bachelor's degree vs high school dropout), then that is where problems arise. It has nothing to do with intelligence. A high school drop out may very well be the next Einstein, but a sharp difference in education can cause the less educated person to develop an inferiority complex. The problem is much greater if the man possesses less education than the woman because he may perceive the woman to be "smarter," which will emasculate him. I've seen this type of issue again and again in real life relationships.

You can just as easily fall in love with a poor man as you can a financially stable man. Don't think for a minute that it's a good idea to marry someone who is dirt poor or is drowning in debt. Money is a big issue that couples fight about. Money and sex are two issues that can easily destroy any love in a marriage. Unlike Disney movies, love itself is not enough to keep a marriage together in real life.

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posted January 11, 2017 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ This

Though I like to think that marriages can also work out fine when the woman has more formal education, I've also seen it come between people.

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posted January 11, 2017 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Money is just a way to cover up the lack of self worth. If you can't make your own but you want to have power, you will marry someone who can cover the cost of your desired lifestyle

I'd say lack of Saturn contact, more introverted/less dominant placements like cancer moon

Scorpio/cap/Taurus Venus might marry with the outward belief that the whole set up is a transaction. So is cap moon.


Lots of Jupiter/Neptune/sag/gem squares/opposition leading one to be very insecure and overly competitive.

IMO You can't generalize tho.

Also it takes 2 to tango. Gold diggers exist because certain men and women overly idealize youth and possibly project their many other issues on to who they associate with.

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posted January 11, 2017 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leo_moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need some lessons from a gold digger. I'm not good at selling myself. Too much Saturn.

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posted January 11, 2017 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for @lycat74     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Layla84:
As I was looking at my chart,
http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag5/Layla2953/birthchartwhole_zpsb33bc7b5.gif

i noticed a few potential gold-digging placements. I know a woman who (has moon conjunct venus in leo , venus conjunct sun/jupiter in leo) is very gold-diggerish! She left her husband and child for someone wealthy!

I have myself:

.Moon conjunct venus (leo)
.Moon conjunct jupiter
.venus conjunct jupiter
.venus square pluto (loose orb)
.pluto in 2nd house


I like nice things and whatnot, but I would marry for love and not money. I could never marry someone I did not care about.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or experiences. Let's open this to discussion. What makes one a gold-digger in a natal chart?


Saturn in the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, & 10th Houses

Jupiter in the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, & 10th Houses

Venus in the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, & 10th Houses

Venus conjunct, trine, sextile, & square Jupiter

Moon conjunct, trine, sextile, & square Jupiter

Sun conjunct, trine, sextile, & square Jupiter

Saturn conjunct, trine, sextile, & square Jupiter

Saturn in hard aspects/positions fear of poverty

Earth signs especially Moon, Venus, & Sun in Earth Signs (Capricorn & Taurus especially)

Other Signs especially Moon, Venus, & Sun
Cancer (security focused)
Leo (vanity, fun, royal lifestyle focused)
Libra (vanity, status focused)
Scorpio (power & status focused)

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posted January 11, 2017 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Money is just a way to cover up the lack of self worth.

Money is so much more than a way to cover up a lack of self-worth.

As Suze Orman says, you need *courage* to be rich.

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posted January 11, 2017 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Money is so much more than a way to cover up a lack of self-worth.

As Suze Orman says, you need *courage* to be rich.


of course money is more than that. It's power, leverage, resource ... you know my capricorn stellium

But just in the context of individuals who are gold diggers - people seem to think that gold diggers are after the $$ but usually they are these sad individuals with very low sense of self-worth and money is their shortcut to cover that up or gain any sense of satisfaction towards life.

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posted January 11, 2017 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd hate to sound like one of those, but why does everyone conclude that everything stems from insecurity?

Some people like having lots of sex with many different partners.

Some people love the thrill of theft.

Some people like having luxurious things, thus will need more money than they are capable of earning to get those things.

I know a Capricorn who was notorious for going after her sisters boyfriends. When asked about one in particular she said; I wanted to go back to school, and he had the means to provide that. Life would have been a struggle if I tried doing it on my own. Besides, if he was into her he won't have been flirting with me.

Was this woman insecure?, or suffer from poor self worth?

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posted January 11, 2017 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think everyone concludes that everything is from insecurity.,.,

Wanting to have sex a lot with many partner is just a preferences.

Getting a thrill out of someone's else loss indicates some level of psychological problem.

Wanting to just have someone who is youthful without having any real emotional or intellual connection to me is not a sign of healthy behaviors. Of. Ouse lots of unhealthy ppl can be highly functional and go on to live a long life.


Having a preference for luxury is not a bad thing. You might just have a luxurious taste. But having to use tactics, to be at time emotionally dishonest and unauthentic, or even sacrifice your own emotional fulfillment to appease someone you're not attracted to just to get him/her to cover for your lifestyles is not a good sign.

But of course, plenty of these ppl go on and live their mediocre existence and might think to themselves that they're faring off well, despite instances where they have to put on a fake smile, plot out their life so that they won't become disposable like their youth.

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posted January 11, 2017 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mm, I don't know about "gold digging" on purpose, but Jupiter in 8th house (2nd from 7th) in either the birth chart or 9th harmonic points to increase in wealth from the partner

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