posted October 25, 2012 02:02 PM            

i noticed a few potential gold-digging placements. I know a woman who (has moon conjunct venus in leo , venus conjunct sun/jupiter in leo) is very gold-diggerish! She left her husband and child for someone wealthy!

I have myself:

.Moon conjunct venus (leo)
.Moon conjunct jupiter
.venus conjunct jupiter
.venus square pluto (loose orb)
.pluto in 2nd house

I like nice things and whatnot, but I would marry for love and not money. I could never marry someone I did not care about.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or experiences. Let's open this to discussion. What makes one a gold-digger in a natal chart?

posted October 25, 2012 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
The fundamentals of any personal finance course is to always marry up and never marry down. I never listened to my own father who outwardly told me to never date any girl who is less well off than I am. Just saying.

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posted October 25, 2012 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
The fundamentals of any personal finance course is to always marry up and never marry down. I never listened to my own father who outwardly told me to never date any girl who is less well off than I am. Just saying.

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I think for females it is a bit different. Generally it would be better for females to marry up in education, financial stability. Having said that, there should NEVER be such a huge gap where the other person ends up being a parasite. I have heard women who have never been around money go nuts when the relationship goes downhill with a wealthier person. If you havent watched the snapped series on youtube, def check that out.

Unfortunately, I see that though in most cases there is a trend in mentality, education, motives, there are nuts all across the board. Makes one weary of anyone.

I think the best idea for anyone is marry into a similar social standing and have similar growth potentials...in terms of finance, education, career, morality, spirituality etc. One being stagnant and the other progressing is a recipe for disaster.

posted October 25, 2012 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I was born well. Not upper middle class or whatever. My dad rode in privately chartered aircraft. Never lacked anything. But my attraction has also been to the needy, the weak and the oppressed, even though my affinity is more towards children than adults.

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posted October 25, 2012 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Layla84:
Yeah, I agree. my sun is in the 12th house so like you i am attracted to the "underdog" so to speak. It's just amazing how the woman i described above could do such a thing. Like don't you have a conscience?

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posted October 25, 2012 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I think for females it is a bit different. Generally it would be better for females to marry up in education, financial stability. Having said that, there should NEVER be such a huge gap where the other person ends up being a parasite. I have heard women who have never been around money go nuts when the relationship goes downhill with a wealthier person. If you havent watched the snapped series on youtube, def check that out.

Unfortunately, I see that though in most cases there is a trend in mentality, education, motives, there are nuts all across the board. Makes one weary of anyone.

I think the best idea for anyone is marry into a similar social standing and have similar growth potentials...in terms of finance, education, career, morality, spirituality etc. One being stagnant and the other progressing is a recipe for disaster.

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I agree with this as well. However, if i really felt a great love for someone, i would choose love (marrying down). I have moon square pluto in loose aspects, but my mom is very overprotective, (moon conjunct jup/venus) and she is always worried about my well-being. I often get the feeling she wants me to be taken care of! I am the youngest of three girls- and I remember her saying that "she won't rest until i am married off". While my parents expected me to go to college- they never really expected me to use it for a career. (funny lol). My sisters were raised a bit stricter than I, a lot of my serious aspirations were a bit laughed at by my parents. My mom certainly has a tight grip on me, so I am a bit scared that she won't be able to deal with the man who i finally decide to bring home (since i fall in love with the person rather than with their status) i fear it might be a modern re-telling of the myth of persephone and her mom demeter lol!

posted October 25, 2012 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
There was once I went out on a group date in college. Some girl asked me if I was driving, and I proceeded to inform her that it's the big city and I would prefer to take the subway downtown out of convenience. She latched onto ___ who had a ___ vehicle, which is a very nice vehicle that is age appropriate, during which time she was crudely insulting me in a car full of classmates who decided to remain quiet. Upon reaching the destination, she saw that I decided to drive in my ____, which was a rather nice vehicle that is not age appropriate, and then started to try to smooth talk me. You know what? Take the subway back to college, you nitwit. I don't need your kind.

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posted October 25, 2012 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Money can't buy a charming personality, a just character, good morals or even a pretty face.

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True true true....!

posted October 25, 2012 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Money can't buy a charming personality, a just character, good morals or even a pretty face.

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I agree, but having a pretty face doesnt get kids through college or put food on the table.

As for morals and character I think that people assume that someone on either extreme of the wealth spectrum have lower morals and character. That is entirely not true, not even in the sense of frequency, mode, median...etc. We like to paint people who are different than us aka the extreme as the bad guy.

For me, I would not marry a money hungry man, but I also wouldnt marry a man with his head stuck in the clouds without any responsibilty to those around him. Type A reminds me of a businessman who ditches his first wife for hte younger version. Type B reminds me of a man writing music and getting lost in his dream world while neglecting his family....and possibly even being as stupid as to run off with someone else because it seemed so *beautiful and inspiring* at the time.

I like moderate men.

posted October 25, 2012 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Layla84:
Yeah, I agree. my sun is in the 12th house so like you i am attracted to the "underdog" so to speak. It's just amazing how the woman i described above could do such a thing. Like don't you have a conscience?

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posted October 25, 2012 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
There was once I went out on a group date in college. Some girl asked me if I was driving, and I proceeded to inform her that it's the big city and I would prefer to take the subway downtown out of convenience. She latched onto ___ who had a ___ vehicle, which is a very nice vehicle that is age appropriate, during which time she was crudely insulting me in a car full of classmates who decided to remain quiet. Upon reaching the destination, she saw that I decided to drive in my ____, which was a rather nice vehicle that is not age appropriate, and then started to try to smooth talk me. You know what? Take the subway back to college, you nitwit. I don't need your kind.

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posted October 25, 2012 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
2nd-8th house axis. Ruler of 8th house in 7th. Ruler of 7th house in 2nd or 8th. ruler of NN in 2nd or 8th house bad aspecting the 7th house. Simple as daylight.

People with stelliums in 2nd or 8th house are well known as the money oriented. No gender difference.

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I dont have any of Laylas aspects for gold diggers, but I have a stellium in my 8th house. I have NN in my 8th as well. My ruler of the 7th house is in the 8th.

I feel as though I have realistic expectations. Any of my love interests have always been ones that did not have as much either educationally or monetarily.

The last guy had neither more than I but I really truly loved him and he shattered my heart I also thought I would end up marrying him, because he was made for me and like my twin, best friend. I used to negate his short comings because I would glorify his good qualities. Big mistake. Ah well.
I used to actually think to myself: Oh he is a diamond in the rough. He will be the best ever. I will help him achieve his goals. etc..

....Now, after the cold water was splashed in my face. I feel our mentality was a bit different in certain aspects. Where I dont allow people into my real life as easily, I am very guarded; he would talk to just about anyone....even if that person was not very reputable. I dont like that idea of rubbing shoulders with people who would end up making me look bad on or offline. That is why I dont hang out with people who do drugs or hook up all the time. Ironically, he was EXACTLY like me in those instances in real life but online was another story. He wouldnt mind talking to them online. I found it a waste of time and was never interested.

Both of us had reputation on the forefront of our lives.

I think now...I would filter guys out accordning to their ability to provide, achieve, in addition to their reputation. The whole character and getting to know him for who he is takes a lot of time and effort, so that assessment or report card would come in after he passed the first set of gates.

posted October 25, 2012 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Do you have any planets in the 12th?

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posted October 25, 2012 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I agree, but having a pretty face doesnt get kids through college or put food on the table.

As for morals and character I think that people assume that someone on either extreme of the wealth spectrum have lower morals and character. That is entirely not true, not even in the sense of frequency, mode, median...etc. We like to paint people who are different than us aka the extreme as the bad guy.

For me, I would not marry a money hungry man, but I also wouldnt marry a man with his head stuck in the clouds without any responsibilty to those around him. Type A reminds me of a businessman who ditches his first wife for hte younger version. Type B reminds me of a man writing music and getting lost in his dream world while neglecting his family....and possibly even being as stupid as to run off with someone else because it seemed so *beautiful and inspiring* at the time.

I like moderate men.

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Haha. I'm a Type A myself and I have a wife of almost 20 years. No inclinations to change my wife for anyone younger, but I don't know about how my wife feels about swapping me out. Lol. Just joking.

No slamming the upper echelons or social envy here. I'm part of the infamous 1% myself. This 1% category doesn't have a monopoly on scum nor does it rule sainthood. We're just people.

posted October 25, 2012 11:24 PM            

I do have a friend who's a gold digger. She gets with old dudes and do arrangements. She has Sag Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune in the 1st house, Cap moon and Mercury conj in the 2nd. Pisces Venus conjunct Pisces Mars in the 4th. It doesn't look apparent that she'd be a gold digger but she is and the weird Pisces Venus and Mars conjunct makes her fool herself into thinking that she's really in love and those old dudes love her based on buying her stuff. She has nothing in houses 5 to 11.