posted March 17, 2013 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Caps are either really stable /sturdy, or they have to strive to be. I have a cluster in the 12th house so I guess I can relate a bit with what you said about feeling lazy and sluggish.

Haute caps who are stable, sturdy and emotional expressive may please water signs. With your big three all in water signs, I imagine that too much earth would feel too dry and unmoving. But hey, water can soften up any solid earth into mush, no? Tee hee hee.

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posted March 17, 2013 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
I like a balance between the two elements I lack, earth and air with a tidbit of fire but the element that I would want to do away with is water. Too much water equals too many arguments and races to the victim chair (lol), I will pass on that.

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I feel pretty much similar with earth dominated people. Good friends, but probably nothing more than that. With air-dominated people, I like them a lot but I don’t get them so yeah.

posted March 17, 2013 10:58 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I feel pretty much similar with earth dominated people. Good friends, but probably nothing more than that. With air-dominated people, I like them a lot but I don’t get them so yeah.

I like water/earth, or fire/earth, fire/water or water for romantic interests. Usually there is mutual understanding, even though it can be a bit rocky at first. From my experience, water people are often sensitive so there’s a feeling that they “get” me. Dealing with them is easy, just remember not to hurt their feelings and one doesn’t have to worry lol. I’ve seen the wrath of heavy-water and really, no sane human would want to be on the receiving end.

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posted March 17, 2013 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
At least being on the giving end, i completely agree. When we get mad, leave us be or you will see something that you may regret you've ever seen. I think we're great people when it comes to emotions but other than that, we can be very in and out.

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posted March 18, 2013 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
On the second thought, dealing with water is actually not that easy, it can be a bit difficult especially to be in tune with their emotions. My 12th placements give me a bit of the watery sensitivity, but of course it’s nowhere near that of the water-heavy people I know. “Dark” water is deep and harbour many secrets after all. But at the same time, water can be clear and transparent. These people can have emotions that run too deep for others to notice, but they can also be very expressive. I think this is one of the reasons why water signs are often associated with complexity.

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posted March 18, 2013 12:23 AM            

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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
Yes but if there is no balance we can be so complex that we are easily distracted by anything other than what needs to be done.

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posted March 18, 2013 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
good post. Do you experience such distraction ? How do you cope ?

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posted March 18, 2013 01:22 AM            

Um... Is it because of the pisces transits ???

posted March 18, 2013 01:25 AM            

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ELoveCherishEndure: That’s one way to do things. Funny how my scorpio cousins also tell me that the one thing that can really get them going is the thought of consequences. Well, wish you the best <3

Um... Is it because of the pisces transits ???

Aquacheeka: is your boyfriend ambitious ? From my experience, rich people are ok as long as they don’t start criticising other people’s career choices and tell people that they should have chose something that could earn lots of money. That can be a turn off lol.

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posted March 18, 2013 01:35 AM            

I hope everything go well for you (Go go fighting fighting). I know expectations and pressure can sometines be too much. But pressure makes diamond =D

posted March 18, 2013 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
A ha another fellow procrastinator. When I was in uni, I was exactly that “the queen of last minute”. But yeah I mean if you’re someone who can concentrate and get work done quickly, then it’s ok. If you’re a bit easily distracted, then procrastinating isn’t the best way. Gah it was a hard-learned lesson for me too.

I hope everything go well for you (Go go fighting fighting). I know expectations and pressure can sometines be too much. But pressure makes diamond =D

May I ask what you are studying ?

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posted March 18, 2013 11:45 AM              

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
ELoveCherishEndure: That’s one way to do things. Funny how my scorpio cousins also tell me that the one thing that can really get them going is the thought of consequences. Well, wish you the best <3

Um... Is it because of the pisces transits ???

Aquacheeka: is your boyfriend ambitious ? From my experience, rich people are ok as long as they don’t start criticising other people’s career choices and tell people that they should have chose something that could earn lots of money. That can be a turn off lol.

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posted March 18, 2013 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I can definitely see evidence of my bf's Cappy stellium.

He likes it when we hang out with rich people, lol.

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posted March 18, 2013 10:02 PM            

ELoveCherishEndure: It’s good that you’re able to see from different perspectives. Do what you think is best =D It sounds like you are more into creative writing, that’s really cool. Do you often write stories or poems ?

Aquacheeka: My, you have aqua sun and pisces moon. How does it feel ?

Lol I have the same thought, as long as I can pay the bills and able to afford food, warmth and meds, I’m content. But also I know that I can be a bit lazy lol. Your boyfriend sounds like he has a lot of drives and the ambition to make it big. Does his stellium make contacts to his MC ?

Agree with YoursTrulyAlways, your bf will appreciate that a lot. My other half encourages me to do what I love and I’m always grateful for his encouragement.

posted March 18, 2013 10:51 PM            

Actually, my Mars and Mercury cross over to the 11th House, but my Sun is in the 10th House. I'll be glad to share more with you if you so desire. Actually, what better place than a Capricorn thread?

My main college girlfriend is also a Capricorn. She became a Harvard-trained neuro surgeon.

And your esteemed lecturer is plagiarizing a popular song of our advanced age by Frank Sinatra. . It's one of my favorites.

Fly Me To The Moon Lyrics
Frank Sinatra

Fly me to the moon
Let me swing among those stars
Let me see what spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars

In other words, hold my hand
In other words, baby, kiss me

Fill my heart with song
Let me sing forever more
You are all I long for
All I worship and adore

In other words, please be true
In other words, I love you

Why don't you fill my heart with song?
Let me swing forever more
Because you are all I long for
All I worship and I adore

posted March 18, 2013 11:45 PM            

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Meissieri: write meeeee a novel, I know you love writing teeheeeheee. I’m trying to get these people to write novels with us too lol

ELoveCherishEndure: It’s good that you’re able to see from different perspectives. Do what you think is best =D It sounds like you are more into creative writing, that’s really cool. Do you often write stories or poems ?

Aquacheeka: My, you have aqua sun and pisces moon. How does it feel ?

Lol I have the same thought, as long as I can pay the bills and able to afford food, warmth and meds, I’m content. But also I know that I can be a bit lazy lol. Your boyfriend sounds like he has a lot of drives and the ambition to make it big. Does his stellium make contacts to his MC ?

Agree with YoursTrulyAlways, your bf will appreciate that a lot. My other half encourages me to do what I love and I’m always grateful for his encouragement.

YoursTrulyAlways: three planets including mars in 10th house, with aries Jupiter to fuel the sun. No wonder why you have ambition and can achieve so much. Actually reading your post makes me think of my capricorn lecturer. He always says that he tries his best to reach for the moon, coz if he misses it he will and among the stars. But looking at his and your list of achievements, I bet you both have the effin moon in your hands already lol.

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posted March 18, 2013 11:59 PM            

My lecturer teaches economics, and he forever moans about how richness and wealth will ruin a person’s family and love life. His 3 ex wives divorced him coz he didn’t pay attention to them. Apparently one of the lessons for caps is that it’s good to earn money for your loved ones, but caps have to also understand that loved ones don’t want to sit on a pile of money and die of attention/love starvation. But actually I feel kind of sorry for him too, coz it’s easy for me – a twenty something kiddo with little responsibility. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be in his position, or to have a very demanding job and have to balance it with family <shudder>

That’s why I have the impression that you’re found your balance, hence you still stay alive, still have both your family and your job. Do you ever feel tired or worn out? If yes, how do you cope? Sorry if that question is too personal, please don’t answer if you find it offensive =D

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Random: I have a 3rd house stellium between Cap and Aquarius so I am technically a Capricorn stellium and yes, I love being creative.I feel obligated to do something other than that

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Hehe your water placements apparently have strong influence and give you creativity and imagination. 3rd house is house of communication, so it makes sense when you said you like writing – communicate your thoughts/emotions/imagination in a creative way.

posted March 19, 2013 08:26 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
My lecturer teaches economics, and he forever moans about how richness and wealth will ruin a person’s family and love life. His 3 ex wives divorced him coz he didn’t pay attention to them. Apparently one of the lessons for caps is that it’s good to earn money for your loved ones, but caps have to also understand that loved ones don’t want to sit on a pile of money and die of attention/love starvation. But actually I feel kind of sorry for him too, coz it’s easy for me – a twenty something kiddo with little responsibility. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be in his position, or to have a very demanding job and have to balance it with family <shudder>

That’s why I have the impression that you’re found your balance, hence you still stay alive, still have both your family and your job. Do you ever feel tired or worn out? If yes, how do you cope? Sorry if that question is too personal, please don’t answer if you find it offensive =D

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I won't place my chart here because the Mods don't like it. Rather, I will create a special separate thread for you in Personal Readings. In that thread, you can ask the questions and I can answwr chronologically. I don't want to mess up this thread.

Its never easy. I'm far from being a workaholic because I do not enjoy work. Yes, that's right. I do enjoy the benefits of work, so that's the difference. However, my self esteem is not derived from my career, and having had much success in the workplace, I would much rather spend time with the family.

I won't mislead you. It's not easy. I'm awake at 5:00 am exactly. I'm rarely in bed before 11:30 pm.

The difference between myself and your lecturer is that I have a supportive wife. My work provides for the family. However, I still find time to cook, clean and be a father to my sons.

As far as being tired and worn out, it's all a matter of mental endurance. The mind goes way further than the body, and if the mind gives up, the body would give up soon after. I spend time in solitude on the train to and from work. As far as mental diversions, I enjoy driving, especially convertibles. My wife enjoys an overwhelming abundance of sex, even with myself being a Capricorn. That's another stress reliever.

The bottom line is still that I have responsibilities and have no time/inclination to feel down. My family needs me to be strong in mind and in character. I'm an individual on a mission, and I am determined to keep my eye on the ball and focus on the prize.

posted March 19, 2013 09:33 AM            

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Vradec: I was reading up and apparently a lot of people born between late 80's-early 90's have big Capricorn stelliums.

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Yeah lmfao! With Poseidon and Ouranos in there...then Kronos slowed his way through (extra Capricorn!), Dias swung by...then whatever alignment of personal planets and angles, stelliums cropped up left and right!

posted March 19, 2013 02:39 PM            

Then still, three blows to that Mercury in one chart. I couldn't tell, though! Not at all. Oh dear, the retrograde really got you didn't it? Fingers crossed it won't give you any more trouble.

Lol, aside from my sun and Ascendant... I have nothing else in fire/air. All earth/water dominant, especially since the planets are also in water/earth houses (except for my Sun and Mars in the 11th). I do have my DSC, NN/SN, Vertex and some main asteroids in fire/air, but I do feel the lack. I remember you're an air void, so you probably know the feeling. Do you have anything to make up for it? Like the air houses active?

Heh. I chuckle at some of the Leo descriptions. Some of them aren't that confident, why else would they always need to know others care about us? ^^ Being here is healing, just the viewpoints you get here. Sometimes it's harsh, but they try to help and mirror you. It's really nice. I kind of like being analysed? Like they see things I'd never have thought of.

I read that article a while ago! It's spot-on. It describes the conflict I have with most groups to a t. Pluto wants me to be independent and get a better self-image first (2nd house) and my sun wants to stay and hope for the better in case they come around. Doesn't help that my SN is in the 11th, it just feels so much safer to be in a group, even if they treat me like dirt. :| I want their respect so bad that I'm willing to change a lot about me just for them, and I end up hurt because of course they don't see me as a friend (or girlfriend). Just a back-up buddy or someone they can keep around for easy attention. Ultimately, I do walk away from them, tired and feeling like I've been strung along for over a year. It's getting easier for me to break away, but I wish I didn't need this big reality check before I finally have the courage to go it alone. And the worst part is that I still find myself wishing one of them would apologize. I move on because I know I have to (= 2nd = survival instinct). It would mean so much to me if one of them would admit they hurt me. It always starts with me being laidback without any expectations and they're jumping on the first opportunity to get to know me. Then when we get closer, suddenly it changes and I'll end up putting in all the effort to keep things going. Either I'm a crutch for them or with my last ex, easy sex. *sigh* I feel so used afterwards. One day I'll be able to get out right away. Once it's over for me, it's really over. I've thought of what I was doing when I did feel independent and happy, and I'm trying to get back to that.

Oh, you were completely right about that. Just two-three years?! You sound like you've been doing this for ages! No need to apologize. Lol I only started about a year ago. I'll leave the biggest interpretations up to the experts here. There are many of them and really good ones, too.

Great you and your husband (?) ended up working things out with the help of astrology. Power struggles, yeah. I know the feeling. :| With Jupiter, it's probably even worse because of its expansive powers. Did you start doing research for it? And a good kingdom is ruled by both!

... You know, I wouldn't have thought of that. Of course. Water house-Ascendant affliction. But you're a nurse, you can tell those things. Thank you so much, it's really nice to get that support. <3 I'll keep trying. Not much else I can do.

*gulp* All three of them opposing Chiron. Bet it's given you some pretty big knocks, too. Sometimes all you can do is laugh, huh, even sourly. Chiron's the healer, right? You can teach others by relating to them because of its 7th house. Yeah, I get it. You seem really easy to talk to, so of course people would trust you. Heh. It's sad isn't it? So many people who look like they've got it all together and then you find out they've had a really rough life. I wonder if that's Chiron too, drawing those people towards you.

posted March 19, 2013 02:42 PM            

You have placements similar to one of my friends, and I can see his need to do something big with his career.

Aquacheeka: I'll just echo the comments on getting him to do something. Having something to work towards will give him the drive to become like those people he looks up to.

YoursTrulyAlways: Sinatra Doing all of that every day, I'm impressed. It's true that mental strength gets you very far. You have such a powerful stellium. Your family must mean a lot to you.

Somethingexcellent: 7 planets?! How did that even happen?

posted March 19, 2013 04:27 PM            

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YoursTrulyAlways: Sinatra Doing all of that every day, I'm impressed. It's true that mental strength gets you very far. You have such a powerful stellium. Your family must mean a lot to you.

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My family is everything I wanted in life. My family is everything I live for, besides God.

There is nothing that I have wanted more since I was five years old. Even as a little boy, I played "house" with girls all the time. Since a small boy, I wanted children.