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Little Doe
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posted May 02, 2013 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Would u mind tell.. Do u have mars near AC or fas from Ac?

Thank you


Itīs actually in conjunction with my asc, but itīs a wide orb (6,5 degrees)

Not sure how much it affects me, but I definitely feel like a warrior without a cause. (I use this aspect when Iīm at the gym mostly, lol) )

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meissieri
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posted May 03, 2013 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't pick just one.

Sun square Pluto (Leo and Scorpio) with my sun also sesquisquare Saturn (Capricorn). I always feel like everyone and anyone tries to control me. While anyone else who sticks up for themselves is brave and totally right, when I do it I'm a selfish brat who doesn't care about others. I've had people go off on me while I was nothing but polite about it and yet I get fallouts over it. The minute I've had enough of people treating me like cr*p, it's over. I don't even call them out on it wanting to cut ties, quite the opposite, I want us to work things out, but they immediately do so. As if they'd been waiting for a chance to get rid of me. In any argument, they are the ones who screw me over, but guess who's going to try and make up? People don't listen to me and I get zero sympathy for my side of the story, while of course I have to feel bad for them.

It's made me terrified to speak up and do anything outside of the norm/popular opinion just to make sure this won't happen again. I feel like I have to give up a big part of myself. With people close to me, it's like they have a gun against my head. They decide what I do and what's appropriate. Not me. I stay on the background and stick to talking to people in private, because it's the only way not to be put under the spotlight. And I'm a Leo, I love attention. Just not this kind.

The other one is my Ascendant, which gets a total of 6 squares. And they also square my Descendant. Ruler Venus is in Virgo, in the 12th house and afflicted too aside from a trine to my moon. I feel invisible and just like any effort I make at reaching out isn't enough.

I have no luck in love and it took me long to have any luck in my social life. It feels like I always have to make the first move, which isn't easy for someone as insecure as me. Lately, it's finally been changing because I grudgingly kept trying. It's worth the effort, but still... I've never been pursued by guys except for players.

I'm usually the one who seeks the other out. I can't even remember the last time a friend has invited me somewhere without me suggesting first. I don't mean that I want to lie on my back and let everyone else work for me, I just wish it could be more of us both doing something. I'd be okay with being the one taking initiative if I had some help here. Everyone around me has all of these relationships. I become really sad reading all of these synastry topics.

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Jkitty
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posted May 03, 2013 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just did a chart on my youngest brother-in-law yesterday and I WINCED when I saw that he has his MOON CONJUNCT CHIRON with an orb of only 34 minutes. I can't say I know how that feels, but I imagine it must be painful, especially since that conjunction is opposed by uranus. I swear I'm hurting for the guy just by looking at his chart!

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posted May 04, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meissieri:
Can't pick just one.

Sun square Pluto (Leo and Scorpio) with my sun also sesquisquare Saturn (Capricorn). I always feel like everyone and anyone tries to control me. While anyone else who sticks up for themselves is brave and totally right, when I do it I'm a selfish brat who doesn't care about others. I've had people go off on me while I was nothing but polite about it and yet I get fallouts over it. The minute I've had enough of people treating me like cr*p, it's over. I don't even call them out on it wanting to cut ties, quite the opposite, I want us to work things out, but they immediately do so. As if they'd been waiting for a chance to get rid of me. In any argument, they are the ones who screw me over, but guess who's going to try and make up? People don't listen to me and I get zero sympathy for my side of the story, while of course I have to feel bad for them.

It's made me terrified to speak up and do anything outside of the norm/popular opinion just to make sure this won't happen again. I feel like I have to give up a big part of myself. With people close to me, it's like they have a gun against my head. They decide what I do and what's appropriate. Not me. I stay on the background and stick to talking to people in private, because it's the only way not to be put under the spotlight. And I'm a Leo, I love attention. Just not this kind.

The other one is my Ascendant, which gets a total of 6 squares. And they also square my Descendant. Ruler Venus is in Virgo, in the 12th house and afflicted too aside from a trine to my moon. I feel invisible and just like any effort I make at reaching out isn't enough.

I have no luck in love and it took me long to have any luck in my social life. It feels like I always have to make the first move, which isn't easy for someone as insecure as me. Lately, it's finally been changing because I grudgingly kept trying. It's worth the effort, but still... I've never been pursued by guys except for players.

I'm usually the one who seeks the other out. I can't even remember the last time a friend has invited me somewhere without me suggesting first. I don't mean that I want to lie on my back and let everyone else work for me, I just wish it could be more of us both doing something. I'd be okay with being the one taking initiative if I had some help here. Everyone around me has all of these relationships. I become really sad reading all of these synastry topics.


Sorry you feel that way. But if people canīt take your oppinion than they donīt genuinely love you, imo. We all deserve to unconditional love. If I feel like Iīm not getting it, I cut ties. I find it emotionally damaging otherwise.

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lilithpluto
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posted May 05, 2013 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus exact square saturn where saturn is in 12th house.

Ppl's criticism gets too me a lot when i was in my teens and growing up. My mom was not exact tactful in her disapproval of me when i was young - never good enough. Correction, she sincerely think i am never good enough. I was pretty depressed by her constant damaging of my self-worth.

These days i avoid her and she wonders why am i so difficult. Well, I had enough of her be-littling me and I really don't live to serve her. (Ironically, she is a capricon moon with stellium of planets in leo and who really think that my very existence is to serve her every needs and boast her ego. Can't be bothered.)

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posted May 05, 2013 02:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I the only person that actually doesn't hate my chart? Everywhere I look, no matter the site, people are complaining about their charts. I can't be the only person that actually accepts myself and doesn't think I'm all that bad...or at least I hope not.

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Gemmy
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posted May 05, 2013 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^I have a tough chart,but the more I study it the more I understand.So I'm learning to like my chart.I'm also growing to like who I am as a person too.

But that retrograde to an already afflicted Venus is a pain.

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Jkitty
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posted May 05, 2013 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chirp:
Am I the only person that actually doesn't hate my chart? Everywhere I look, no matter the site, people are complaining about their charts. I can't be the only person that actually accepts myself and doesn't think I'm all that bad...or at least I hope not.

Who said anything about hating their chart? HardEST is a comparitive term. Do you actually like every aspect in your chart equally well? Is everything in it equally easy for you to handle? If that's the case, than it appears you have no understanding of a need to grow, develop or mature.

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posted May 05, 2013 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great responses.Thank you. Need to come back and study!!

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Who said anything about hating their chart? HardEST is a comparitive term. Do you actually like every aspect in your chart equally well? Is everything in it equally easy for you to handle? If that's the case, than it appears you have no understanding of a need to grow, develop or mature.



You seem REALLY defensive like I just came and pooped on your front porch or something. Calm down; I don't have to think the same as you do it's not the end of the world...and understanding that, would be the more mature route to take, would it not?

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posted May 05, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chirp:

You seem REALLY defensive like I just came and pooped on your front porch or something. Calm down; I don't have to think the same as you do it's not the end of the world...and understanding that, would be the more mature route to take, would it not?

I never asked or implied that you need to think the same as I do. I simply asked you 3 sensible questions, which you didn't bother to answer. It appears to me that you're the one who's being defensive.

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posted May 05, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rosedl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Aquarius in the fourth house

I am a Cancer sun and Taurus Moon!

I want stability and permanence and instead I have had the most unstable family and love life.

It has been a huge growth aspect, but it has been a bit much.

I am all over the place.

Leo Mercury
Scorpio Rising & Jupiter
Gemini Saturn

It is near impossible for me to have a smooth chart with ANYONE because mine is so all over the place with so many different influences.

I think it makes me pretty balanced as a person having all the elements represented and fire and air to offset the heavier earth and water aspects. I do get on well with many different types of people.

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I never asked or implied that you need to think the same as I do. I simply asked you 3 sensible questions, which you didn't bother to answer. It appears to me that you're the one who's being defensive.



That's what you call sensible?

You're the one who jumped on me because you didn't like what I had to say. You don't have to like what I say but I have a right to say it as long as I'm not flaming anybody. Next time you don't like what I say do us both a favor and scroll past it, because I'm not gonna argue with you, it's bad karma for folks to disrespect their elders anyway and I don't need anymore bad juju than I've already got.

Okay, this is the part where I start ignoring you. Starting...

(checks time)....NOW!

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posted May 05, 2013 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, back to the original question...what is my toughest aspect and how does it make me feel? Well, first I will tell you how I feel and you can see if you can guess the aspect, or lack thereof.

Ami with an unaspected moon you have probably spent your entire life obsessed with finding out what you need and I can tell you I have spent my entire life feeling like I have an obsession finding out what I want and who I really am.

I mean, I grew up in a large extended family always feeling loved but not for myself, for my being a part of everyone else, attached to everybody else's identity and reputation. So and so's brother, dr ----'s daughter, ----'s niece, -----'s cousin. Lots of family pride and acom

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posted May 05, 2013 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
accomplishments. Never bored. Lots of interests. But what to do with my life? I always felt like I was never given a chance to find my own identity.

No Neptune-sun aspects so my identity was never clouded, just nonexistent. Wide orbs on the only two squares in my chart. Everything else sextiles so lots of opportunity for discovery. Easy. Easy. Yet here it is, an unaspected sun, the thing I hate most, because I still have no clue who I am and what I want and it feels as if I just keep waiting and waiting, to find out what happens when Pluto soon crashes into my sun and then grinds back and forth until finally I come out realizing that I actually do have an identity and that it's ok to want what I want and be able to achieve something because I will have a clue what that is after all these years.

I guess you can tell that my P/N eclipse brings me here with a low self esteem which doesn't help either. So no major aspects to my sun is what I hate the most and it doesn't feel good at all.

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posted May 07, 2013 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loaded 7th house, which squares my nodes. I have a lot of emotions and investments in relationships, but since this house squares my nodes, it doesn't matter how much work and effort I put in starting and maintaining relationships, they do not sit on secure foundation.

How does it make me feel? It is spiritually very trying. Like some God above is trying to phuck with me. I ask myself, why do I have 4 personal planets in the 7th house, which creates very deep feelings for a relationship, and at the same time, the nodes are denying it? Why? Why me?

So I have learned to not take relationships too seriously, and to focus instead on my career, even though I have no planets there, because that is where my North Node is. My career has been blossoming, and it's making me very happy. I don't know if it will compensate for the inability to form durable relationships though, but we will see.

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Krista_Kay_1993
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posted May 11, 2013 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krista_Kay_1993     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune conjunct asc in 1st house, i dislike it makes me too sensitive and all that Jazz. so i heard on thee forms.

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Krista_Kay_1993
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posted May 11, 2013 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krista_Kay_1993     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune conjunct asc in 1st house, i dislike it makes me too sensitive and all that Jazz. so i heard on thee forms.

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posted May 12, 2013 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct chiron. I don't feel like I belong in my family and had a painful childhood. (Sun and chiron in cancer in 4th.) I would say it feels like a hole in my heart. Also sun opposite saturn and neptune. I am too hard on myself. I like my moon in aquarius but its difficult in the twelfth house. I feel detached from people and feel like I am on a different plane of reality and am always trying to be "normal".. I like my pluto in the eighth(trine sun) but its difficult because I feel it makes me vulnerable and I sense a lot underneath the surface and can get angry and paranoid. Is is where my mars in aries in first(square mercury) doesn't come in handy lol.

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