posted June 19, 2013 05:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:

YES...THIS!! Totally agree! I've experienced this.

I was totally in love and dedicated to a person through mental illness and suicide attempts. We ultimately broke up because he didn't feel the same towards me after a while and because he lost interest in EVERYTHING, that included me. But he knows my love was genuine... I'm sure he knows deep down I still do love him as a human being. He is only one of two romantic partners that have ever affected me that way (and I'm mid 30s). It's been more than 2 years since I've even seen his face but I'd drop just about everything if he ever needed a friend. That's all we are now & that's fine.

I never felt used or like a door mat at all. I treated his mental illness just like I would treat a partner with diabetes or any other chronic health issue. Why would I leave him for something he needed help with?

I feel the same about my current partner. Even if he has bad times, I'm here. Unless he abuses me, I plan on staying with this man until one of us passes on to the next realm.And the sad thing is that I love him so dearly that I have considered how I might feel when he's gone (because he's older) and I wept... I actually cried thinking about being an old woman without him. He's my best friend.

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posted June 19, 2013 07:10 AM            

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Originally posted by twinswans:
Unconditional love means to love without conditions.. You will love the person even if they do not come up to your standards/image...or if they let you down...etc. No matter what they do, your love for them will not change....This is very difficult in today's world unless its a parent-child relationship or something like that.....

It has nothing to do with exploiting yourself, futile self-sacrificing or becoming a door-mat, etc. To be able to love someone unconditionally, in the truest sense of the word, one must have mastered the art of loving himself, first.Thats when ego goes out of the equation...He stops TOLERATING people, and starts ACCEPTING people as they are...And that gives rise to Unconditional love.

Hence, this is far from being an unhealthy concept...it is healing, rather.

My two cents

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posted June 19, 2013 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
note to self:

find yourself a venus in pisces or venus/neptune person

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posted June 19, 2013 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Or you could settle for plain old Neptunian if you can catch one that is, lol.

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lol. Right! I'm Neptunian and as slippery as a fish

posted June 19, 2013 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
lol. Right! I'm Neptunian and as slippery as a fish

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posted June 19, 2013 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Aren't you Pisces rising, Orange? Pisces ascendants are my most favorite of all. You guys are the best!

I thought I read you post you are Pisces ascendant with sun in Virgo but I could be wrong..either way, that's a lovely combination!

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yes, sunshine
a Pisces Rising here with Sun in Virgo on my DSC. Nodes are also Pisces/Virgo along my Angles. And Neptune, the chart ruler , is doing a load of numbers in my chart.

posted June 19, 2013 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
yes, sunshine
a Pisces Rising here with Sun in Virgo on my DSC. Nodes are also Pisces/Virgo along my Angles. And Neptune, the chart ruler , is doing a load of numbers in my chart.

You are also a Virgo, no? I like your astro deductions a lot!

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Interesting. So are you Pisces NN or S? In first house? Neptune makes a strong aspect in my chart so I know what you mean about that!

You have a lot of the same kinds of duality in your chart I have in mine, somewhat. Yours seems a bit more prominent though. You balance it well! Pisces ascendant seems to be really good at communication though, so it helps, most likely, rather than harms.

posted June 19, 2013 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Interesting. So are you Pisces NN or S? In first house? Neptune makes a strong aspect in my chart so I know what you mean about that!

You have a lot of the same kinds of duality in your chart I have in mine, somewhat. Yours seems a bit more prominent though. You balance it well! Pisces ascendant seems to be really good at communication though, so it helps, most likely, rather than harms.

Sun in Virgo like you btw. Almost forgot to answer, lol.

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North Node is in Pisces conjuncting ASC almost exactly to the minute. I've come a long way

posted June 19, 2013 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
North Node is in Pisces conjuncting ASC almost exactly to the minute. I've come a long way

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posted June 19, 2013 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Good idea! We are my favorite, too. Or you could settle for plain old Neptunian if you can catch one that is, lol.

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posted June 19, 2013 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
lol....
getting my fishing pole ready

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posted June 19, 2013 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
When I typed Neptunian I didn't mean Pisces as much as people with a heavily aspected Neptune. I call Pisces Pisces and people with strong Neptune Neptunians because some Pisceans will go and act Jupitarian more than Neptunian depending on the individual Pisces.

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it was meant for the pisces reference...

posted June 19, 2013 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
it as meant for the pisces reference...

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That's not who I meant, lol. Pisces can go either way, Neptunian or more Jupiter. Still a great idea though!

posted June 19, 2013 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
That's not who I meant, lol. Pisces can go either way, Neptunian or more Jupiter. Still a great idea though!

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mmm...if you want to continue nitpicking..go ahead but...

my reference, pisces or venus-neptunian person

you responded...
Good idea! We are my favorite, too. 'Or' you could settle for plain old Neptunian if you can catch one that is, lol.

posted June 19, 2013 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
mmm...if you want to continue nitpicking..go ahead but...

my reference, pisces or venus-neptunian person

you responded...
Good idea! We are my favorite, too. 'Or' you could settle for plain old Neptunian if you can catch one that is, lol.

the part befrore the 'or', i assumed it was referring to pisces...
or were you referring to venus-neptune?
and then, after the 'or' : solely neptunian...
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Venus/Neptune and Venus in Pisces together here.

Neptunians (people with busy Neptune in their charts over here.)

and the third category Pisces, that can be in either one of the above or in neither, lol, enter Jupiter.

Question becomes, can the Venus/Neptune and Venus in Pisces people also be Neptunians?

posted June 19, 2013 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Venus/Neptune and Venus in Pisces together here.

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okay, girly,
I've been fishing for a Venus in Pisces lately here on Lindaland to learn more about this placement. The object of my interest has a Venus in Pisces which trines Neptune tightly and also opposites his Pluto and squares his Moon.
Please, tell me the secrets of Venus in Pisces trining Neptune. Whatcha all about?

also, what degree is your Venus? Is it conjuncting my early degree Pisces ASC?

posted June 19, 2013 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
okay, girly,
I've been fishing for a Venus in Pisces lately here on Lindaland to learn more about this placement. The object of my interest has a Venus in Pisces which trines Neptune tightly and also opposites his Pluto and squares his Moon.
Please, tell me the secrets of Venus in Pisces trining Neptune. Whatcha all about?

also, what degree is your Venus? Is it conjuncting my early degree Pisces ASC?

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I do know about Venus trine Neptune, I like to be surrounded by nice people and want whomever I am with to be easy going. Then again, I have Libra ascending too. Seems like Venus in Pisces trine Neptune would be similar. They would want people who are gonna be nice above all else. You seem like that type though so you should get along with one splendidly. Also send lots of love and value the one with Venus in Pisces because they can attract people who do not give them the love they deserve and people could take them for granted or push them around so always make them feel appreciated
That's my advice.

posted June 19, 2013 01:42 PM            

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This is why I like Pisces ascendants, I feel more relaxed than I do with people who's planets are in my descendant for some reason.
I am in the Pisces rising's descendant. I would rather be here.

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well, your chart ruler, Venus, is trining Neptune, so that's why you like and feel comfy with Pisces/ or Neptunian people.

My Venus is in Libra, so it connects well with your ASC in Libra.

posted June 19, 2013 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
well, your chart ruler, Venus, is trining Neptune, so that's why you like and feel comfy with Pisces/ or Neptunian people.

My Venus is in Libra, so it connects well with your ASC in Libra.

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posted June 19, 2013 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Venus/Neptune and Venus in Pisces together here.

Neptunians (people with busy Neptune in their charts over here.)

and the third category Pisces, that can be in either one of the above or in neither, lol, enter Jupiter.

Question becomes, can the Venus/Neptune and Venus in Pisces people also be Neptunians?

Stay tuned for the conclusion of tonight's episode...

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??????

too late to think.....
anyways, going back.....
ill get my fishing pole, boomerang....neptunian and jupiterian people trap........
how that does sound?

posted June 19, 2013 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
This must be why I get the impression you are really a sweet person

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Thanks, honey. You are real mistery to me, though. Not for long, I hope ;-)

posted June 19, 2013 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
lol....
getting my fishing pole ready

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posted June 19, 2013 08:26 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
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??????

too late to think.....
anyways, going back.....
ill get my fishing pole, boomerang....neptunian and jupiterian people trap........
how that does sound?

ive not met any in real life....so.....this adventure must be postponed...

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posted June 20, 2013 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Okay which aspects/placements in a natal make a person experience love feelings in their purest and ideal way??

I'll explain it a bit more, I have natally Venus square Pluto, so love comes together with mind games, trying to be in control etc The moment I go crazy about someone, Pluto is there to remind me that being in power and control and appearing tough to the other person. So my feelings are never "pure" if you get what I mean, and I think people with venus/pluto will agree on that.
So which placements make for yhe opposite as described perfectly above from Straight Smile ?I was thinking about Venus in Pisces and Venus well aspected to Neptune maybe?!?

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I used to be the same way. I have venus in scorpio, so I know where youīre coming from.
I think that pluto has the power to transform your venus and give it a higher expression where you will be able to love unconditionally, but it takes alot of work and maturity.

As I always say, I donīt think astrological placements are set in stone, and especially with a sign like scorpio or the planet pluto there is potential to transform into something completely different than what you started out as.