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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a ride or die kinda person when I comes to sex/relationships.

The person I have sex with is some I can trust my life...
Sex for the sake of sex does not interest me in the least bit.
This person has no idea what turns me on, seems pointless when theres no love..

I'm a male so this is very peculiar mentally, I'm aware of that LMAO

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aquaguy91
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posted June 24, 2013 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa whoa whoa... How do you figure that? guys wouldnt be able to have casual sex if girls didnt let them. it takes 2

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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ eat a dick.

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asclibrasagsun
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posted June 24, 2013 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I'm a ride or die kinda person when I comes to sex/relationships.

The person I have sex with is some I can trust my life...
Sex for the sake of sex does not interest me in the least bit.
This person has no idea what turns me on, seems pointless when theres no love..

I'm a male so this is very peculiar mentally, I'm aware of that LMAO


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asclibrasagsun
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posted June 24, 2013 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
eat a dick.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 24, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:
This is an issue I’ve wanted to talk about for a long time – casual relationships and casual sex.

I consider myself a fairly reasonable and non-foolishly idealistic person when it comes to love but there is one thing I’ve always had a major problem with and that’s casual sex and casual relationships. I’m usually able to articulate myself and analyze why I feel the way I do about certain things but I can’t do it with this topic. I feel emotionally compromised….

[b]Even the thought of casual sex makes me feel anger, sadness and disgust. It hurts me even though I don’t (and never will) practice it. Just the idea of it drives me insane. I have some kind of unreasonable aversion to it.

I don’t want to play the gender card but I will go out on a limb and say that more men tend to practice it than women. I’ve had conversations about this several times and when someone says “people [men] can love someone but that they can still have sex with someone else” it just makes me enraged. Just pure rage. The idea of separating love and care from sex offends me greatly.

So my question is what in a person’s chart can makes them dogmatically opposed to casual sex and what can make them practice it?[/B]



Your attitudes might be influenced by your sixth house stellium. You take the Virgo stuff very seriously with Scorpio so it's amplified. You want your life to be intensely clean and pure and casual sex is not this. Virgo can idealize women too, although your moon sign might also have a say in your feelings about them. You think of women as the pure ones, it's very Virgo/6th house so you think they should have high standards and since you are one, you insist on them yourself.

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11nahyt
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posted June 24, 2013 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot have sex with someone I've not established a deep emotional connection with, prior to sex.The most 'casual' I've done, was with a guy i knew for about a year, I was very very physically attracted to him. Just looking at him would set me on fire.. but We didnt have an emotional connection. I eventually had sex with him. But The minute we started having sex, its like my body shut off.. and I didn't stop the sex, for his sake. Smh. I basically raped myself with his penis. This was the worst sexual experience ever. So casual,detached sex are absolutely out the question for me. I've been celibate ever since. I don't understand how people can have casual sex. Ive always wanted to ask those folks, how do they do it? What do they feel like once the deed is done? Are you repulsed afterwards? Is it like indulging in a sweet calorie bomb infused piece of cake you shouldn't eat, and feel guilty and horrible after eating it? Or is it that it just doesn't phase you? I really want to know how does that work..I wish I could ask this without them getting offended or some shiit

my chart in case

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meyray
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posted June 24, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
eat a dick.

Was that intended for me? I'm sorry if something I said sounded offensive, I didn't mean to put blame on anyone. The thing I said about guys was just a prelude to the argument made by others.

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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hell no, It was not intended for you....

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aquaguy91
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posted June 24, 2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would i? i'm not the one who is bi :P

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meyray
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posted June 24, 2013 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Whoa whoa whoa... How do you figure that? guys wouldnt be able to have casual sex if girls didnt let them. it takes 2

Sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound like that. It was just an observation and I was quoting something others have said to me. I'm not blaming any gender. I'm just talking about the act per se.

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aquaguy91
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posted June 24, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:
Sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound like that. It was just an observation and I was quoting something others have said to me. I'm not blaming any gender. I'm just talking about the act per se.

no offense taken. lol just stating the facts. although there are alot of people who blame men for everything.

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meyray
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posted June 24, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Hell no, It was not intended for you....

Oh, sorry I just got confused for a sec. I really liked your other post by the way. It comforts me to see that I'm not the only one who thinks like this.

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meyray
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posted June 24, 2013 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Your attitudes might be influenced by your sixth house stellium. You take the Virgo stuff very seriously with Scorpio so it's amplified. You want your life to be intensely clean and pure and casual sex is not this. Virgo can idealize women too, although your moon sign might also have a say in your feelings about them. You think of women as the pure ones, it's very Virgo/6th house so you think they should have high standards and since you are one, you insist on them yourself.


This is SO accurate!! When I was younger and more irrational I had a big problem with gender roles and how each gender was treated.

It's still a highly sensitive and explosive thing for me when men disrespect women (be it professionally, sexually, emotionally or anything else)

In fact I was thinking of starting a thread about that issue (along with feminism and the point where it gets misguided) but I know that is a seriously sensitive topic which will cause much drama that's why I'm avoiding it.

You hit it straight on the head with this post, Starlight. Thank you!

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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im confused when did people start blaming genders.

Idk she was just stating the average mentally of males, gay or straight. They breath sex.
That does not mean she is pin pointing every man that ever existed.

The male gender is most likely to be pro casual sex.
Nothing wrong with that, that's just how men are designed.
After all if men don't initiate sexual relations who will?
Most women will never approach a man for casual sex.
Yes plenty women like casual sex, nothing wrong with that if you're using protection etc.

After all sex is biology, so most women are looking for life long mates to raise offspring together. So many women are not looking for casual sex.
Love and emotions is the complex chemicals in our body

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aquaguy91
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posted June 24, 2013 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^nobody in the thread, but that seems to be the attitude of most people. lol i'm an aquarius i'm going to play the devils advocate everytime, what do you expect?

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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go make your own thread and play devils advocate.

This thread has nothing to do with gender relations, it's about casual sex.

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meyray
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posted June 24, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Kerosene
Actually I really didn’t want to put a big accent on gender at all. Trust me I know women who engage and initiate casual sex. Both genders have this mentality. It seems more common in men but I really REALLY REALLY want to avoid generalization.

@aquaguy91
Leave it to an Aquarius to be the naysayer. :P


EDIT: Come on, guys! Don't fight. Let's all play nice.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 24, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand what Meray is getting at because she does have a point. Who are the ones that will admit casual sex is alright, more often than not, and who is going to say they want to be with one person, experience a deep union, commitment, love?

It's deluded to believe most men are going to say something like, "I am interested in a spiritual union with my soul mate until I find her (or him) no sex for me." Men don't say stuff like that for the most part, and if you claim they do, it's just deluded thinking. I have never heard one male ever talk about a soul mate. Kerosene mentions something somewhat similar, he did not type the words "soul mate." That's where men draw the line lol.

Women, on the other hand, will admit to stuff like that and will actually say, "I want my soul mate." Not all of them, but many of them, more than men. Who would disagree with that? Many of them dream of a committed union with one guy but can't find it so they settle for what they can get while the ones with will power tough it out and won't do anything with anyone until they find the one they are sure about.

Of course, there are men who admit to the soul mate stuff, just as there are women who want to date and not really get too serious but it's generally true, there's a difference in the way men and women think about sex.

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posted June 24, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@11nahyt
I see a Leo Moon and a Scorpio Venus! Moon in 6th House too. Yep this definitely helps that argument I made a couple of posts back. Scorpio and Leo want to be adored and respected, loveless sex is like a slight to them. Not to mention that Libra, 7th and 8th House energy too.

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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL i don't believe in soul mates or marriage.

I don't think its possible for people to be in love forever.
At some point it turns into a companionship.

Moon conjunct venus makes me idealistic, i'm probably as sexual as any guy but I want to sex to feel real.
If that makes sense, just the trust and knowledge about our tastes.

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aquaguy91
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posted June 24, 2013 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I can understand what Meray is getting at because she does have a point. Who are the ones that will admit casual sex is alright, more often than not, and who is going to say they want to be with one person, experience a deep union, commitment, love?

It's deluded to believe most men are going to say something like, "I am interested in a spiritual union with my soul mate until I find her (or him) no sex for me." Men don't say stuff like that for the most part, and if you claim they do, it's just deluded thinking. I have never heard one male ever talk about a soul mate. Kerosene mentions something somewhat similar, he did not type the words "soul mate." That's where men draw the line lol.

Women, on the other hand, will admit to stuff like that and will actually say, "I want my soul mate." Not all of them, but many of them, more than men. Who would disagree with that? Many of them dream of a committed union with one guy but can't find it so they settle for what they can get while the ones with will power tough it out and won't do anything with anyone until they find the one they are sure about.

Of course, there are men who admit to the soul mate stuff, just as there are women who want to date and not really get too serious but it's generally true, there's a difference in the way men and women think about sex.


Well that much is true. But what people say is often in contradiction to what they actually do.

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meyray
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posted June 24, 2013 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys, let’s not turn this into a gender debate. I really want to avoid needless drama. Let’s all be objective. (And this is coming from a Scorpio dominant lol. Come on, let loose, don’t take things to heart)

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posted June 24, 2013 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:
@11nahyt
I see a Leo Moon and a Scorpio Venus! Moon in 6th House too. Yep this definitely helps that argument I made a couple of posts back. Scorpio and Leo want to be adored and respected, loveless sex is like a slight to them. Not to mention that Libra, 7th and 8th House energy too.

I agree. This might be too much to ask, but I don't feel comfortable with dating a guy, or pursuing a guy unless I feel he's obsessed with me. I guess i need me an Edward Cullen type. Ha!.....simply Liking me, alot, doesn't really satisfy me LOL.

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posted June 24, 2013 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:
what in a person’s chart can makes them dogmatically opposed to casual sex and what can make them practice it?

My chart allows for a casual attitude and practice of sexuality, particularly my 5H (fun, games, hobbies, creativity, etc) Sag (freedom, philosophy, physical energy) Moon, Mars, Uranus, and Eros, and though my Libra Venus affects that, I think some of my other Libra placements (many of which are on the Scorpio cusp as well as being 3H) also understand alternative paradigms toward love & sexuality.

In my case, however, my energy tends to get directed elsewhere. However, back in my experimental days when I was curious I engaged in behavior that would upset you greatly (which isn't my problem) to explore and understand it (and myself) better. And if I didn't have other passions that I consider more important and less entangling I'd no doubt be into things like swinging today (but instead I'm more demisexual, my imagination has to be coaxed into directing my fiery & airy energy into sexual desires, otherwise it just doesn't occur to me). And so that there's no mistake I don't care what others do sexually as long as it's ethical (that means honest, etc, in short the same type of ethics when deciding on everything from a business deal to what to order on pizza), demisexuals aren't about being prudes, it just means we're not obsessed about it (as so many prudes ironically are). I do need relationships, but I can take or leave sex.

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