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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 24, 2013 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Meray - I wonder which house feminism belongs to? 6th or 11th? Which do you think? You have a lot going on in 6th and you are very pro equality and are quite sensitive. 11th house is the one traditionally associated with equality though.

Kerosene - you mentioned wanting to be with someone who loves you rather than seek sex from just anyone so that's entering soul mate territory some.

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Doux Rκve
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posted June 24, 2013 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rκve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think people who are into casual sex often have planets in the 5th.

And Venus/Uranus (hard aspects especially).
Yep, that one in men almost always plays out that way.
Although, (generalization galore, sorry) most men don't mind it even if they don't have a Venus/Uranus aspect.

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aquaguy91
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posted June 24, 2013 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Well that much is true. But what people say is often in contradiction to what they actually do.

^if saying this (which is the truth) is starting drama people are way too dang sensitive.

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posted June 24, 2013 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rκve:
[ Back on topic ]

I think people who are into casual sex often have planets in the 5th.

And Venus/Uranus (hard aspects especially).
Yep, that one in men almost always plays out that way.
Although, (generalization galore, sorry) most men don't mind it even if they don't have a Venus/Uranus aspect.


This. I've known quiet a few people with full 5th houses who were pretty promiscuous.

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I'm so cappy
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posted June 24, 2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Something went wrong in my case

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 24, 2013 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
^Something went wrong in my case


I thought you had Saturn in fifth? That would explain it! It's like having Saturn in eighth

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somethingexcellent
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posted June 24, 2013 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uratune in the Fifth, and I'm entirely for "casual relations". We should all be sex positive!

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posted June 24, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:

[b] @ meissieri

You raise some valid points. So far I’ve always had a block when I thought of this. Now that I make these replies I’m forced to think about it and I come to some conclusions. Generally I’m neither prudish nor traditional. I consider myself very sexually liberal and I love everything about sexuality, however there’s a catch which I think my Leo Mars is responsible for. I’ll state it in my final reply to everyone.


@ everyone
Thank you so much for your replies! From what I gathered I made some conclusions about myself. I think Mars is behind it (for the most part). It’s actually much more selfish and egocentric than it sounds. In fact sex is just an extension. I think it’s because of my big and fragile ego – when the sex is casual I automatically assume the other person doesn’t care about me. Leo Mars does not only want to be cared about but he wants to be adored.

Also when I see the way some people treat their partners or when I read stories on the internet by anonymous people sharing their encounters I develop and even bigger cognitive distortion. Most of them express themselves in the likes of “Ohh, you should have seen that nasty sl*t I f*cked last night!”. The crudeness and disrespect aggravates my Leo Mars even more. And then Pluto (or all that Scorpio) comes along and says “Everybody thinks and acts this way. All casual sex is hateful!” And that is why I abhor it so much. If it’s not serious I automatically think it’s hateful, degrading and disrespectful.[/B]


Hey. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean that traditional = prudish, I meant it more in someone who is very much into getting married, having children, the typical slice-of-life. Someone who'd rather skip the dating around and settle down, you know?

Ahhh, the Leo pride. Takes guts to be honest about that, which is what I love about them~ I think the combo of Leo, Virgo (your huge H6 stellium) and Scorpio means you have really specific wishes for whom you'd sleep with, for which you'd have to really get to know someone before knowing they're right for you. I get it and it's good to know what you're looking for.

Oh, that kind of gossip. My sun gets twitchy about the idea of someone I've slept with going to talk about it as if it's just some prize. One of my ex' used me to prove to his friends that he "could get a girl" and yeah... suddenly being showed off wasn't that much fun anymore. So yeah, in short, I get what you meant.

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somethingexcellent
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posted June 24, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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meyray: The idea of separating love and care from sex offends me greatly.

Love and sex are indeed separate things, but depending on the person, they can be closely intertwined or remain separate. It's all about your own values. I think your Moon placement would determine if love and sex are closely related or not. For me, an Aquarius Moon, love is one thing and sex is another. You can have love without sex, and you can have sex without love.

EDIT! Oh you're a Scorpio Moon! That might be it. Also you're born a few days before me.

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I'm so cappy
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posted June 24, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It's like having Saturn in eighth

You're serious?

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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Kerosene - you mentioned wanting to be with someone who loves you rather than seek sex from just anyone so that's entering soul mate territory some.


Lmao when I was young I use to talk about soul mates,

Also trust is a big thing, I don't feel comfortable if I can't trust someone. It's hard for me to trust people.
I see why people do things with their close friends, that makes sense.

Personally I equate close friendships with family or kin.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 24, 2013 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So true, Kerosene, about trust. Can't be too careful!

Cappy - Saturn is Saturn!

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Kerosene
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posted June 24, 2013 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
I have capricorn in the 8th house!
probably why im icy when it come to casual sex.
I don't condem it, it's just not for me.
Saturn conjuncts my MC so I'm fascinated by the act of sex, especially tantric sex, I stole so many books from this interesting library.... well I plan of giving them back I always forget..
Anyways I just have to find someone I can trust.

I have libra in the 5th house and venus conjuncts my moon.
Probably why im too idealistic.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 24, 2013 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really idealistic too with Aquarius on the cusp of fifth. Aquarius is the sign of idealism! Hopes, wishes and high ideals.

I also have the ruler, Uranus involved in many aspects and conjunct the ascendant. It is involved with Mercury, Jupiter, Moon, Venus, Pluto. You name it! Even a nice aspect to Saturn, a biquintile I think. It's just very well situated, depending on what you believe about conjunctions. So maybe it's just so-so?

Saturn, other ruler of fifth is in eighth with a square to Venus though. At least it's in good aspect to the modern ruler of Aquarius.

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somethingexcellent
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posted June 24, 2013 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus is values but Moon is your comfort zones. Venus is the ideas you want to project and accept, the light you shine before you start something or after you finish something. Venus would be "I want this in a person". Venus is all concepts, ideas, and ideals.

The Moon however is all your experiences and feelings, kept together, and that's what you become attracted to, because it's comfortable and familiar. Moon would be "I want this from you", the you being whomever you've let close to you. Where Venus is all about what you imagine and think, the Moon is about your sentiments towards real things.

So, if you're (un)comfortable with casual sex, I'd look to your Moon and Moon aspects.

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posted June 24, 2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ StarlightSmileSupreme
6th House is in fact the House of inequality. Paradoxically I think feminism might fall here because a mature 6H individual will do anything to break that inequality. 6th House is also House of conflict and an astrologer once said that 6th House individuals will spend their life solving conflicts – especially Mercury in the 6th

Also I think 10th House might be e home for feminism – it deals with social status and power. Maybe also 1st House.

@ meissieri

quote:

I meant it more in someone who is very much into getting married, having children, the typical slice-of-life. Someone who'd rather skip the dating around and settle down, you know?


Actually not at all. I consider myself quite liberal and even unconventional in my relationship style. Also like I said I don’t have any inhibitions about sex. I would do almost everything with a consensual lover. I might even say I have a perverted streak. The catch is that I need to feel respected and I need trust. They need to be explicitly declared before anything happens. With casual sex you can never be sure.

@ Kerosene
I can relate to all of your posts so far.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 24, 2013 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meyray,

The reason I question it is the connection with Virgo. It seems like the sign with a woman would be the sign of feminism, lol. Would the house of inequality strive to be equal? Maybe there's more here than meets the eye?

I also forgot about Libra, being scales and all, the seventh house could be interpreted as a house of equality. Maybe there are more than one?

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posted June 24, 2013 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rκve:
I don't want to sound like a douche but I think you'll change your mind when you get older.

I'm a late bloomer and used to be extremely closed off to anything sexual until recently.

People change, even those with a fixed stellium.

Not saying I'm into casual sex but it's part of life, most people go through it at some point.


COMPLETELY AGREE!

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posted June 24, 2013 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
i think it's the venus in scorpio

Disagree. I am Venus in Scorp and can easily separate sex from love.

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posted June 24, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
Disagree. I am Venus in Scorp and can easily separate sex from love.


What aspects does your Venus make?

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posted June 24, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rκve:
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I think people who are into casual sex often have planets in the 5th.


I've got nothing in my 5th. What's my excuse?

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posted June 24, 2013 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
What aspects does your Venus make?

Mercury (in Leo) sextile Venus
Venus conjunct Mars (in Libra)
Venus square Jupiter (in Leo)
Venus sextile Saturn (in Virgo)

Venus in Scorpio lies in H3 for me, if that matters.

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posted June 24, 2013 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im only into casual flings if im really feeling something for the other person.

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Sun Aries Moon Pisces
Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
Ascendant Libra

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posted June 24, 2013 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
I've got nothing in my 5th. What's my excuse?



Oh wait... maybe it's my Sag moon? *lol*

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posted June 24, 2013 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rκve:
I don't want to sound like a douche but I think you'll change your mind when you get older.

I'm a late bloomer and used to be extremely closed off to anything sexual until recently.

People change, even those with a fixed stellium.

Not saying I'm into casual sex but it's part of life, most people go through it at some point.


I don't entirely agree, I started dating at a really young age, and I did experiment a little because naturally I was curious but it did not feel right. I started exploring my own sexuality and figured out what I need.

It's great you have finally have become aware of your sexuality and more power to you, you don't sound like a douche either.

I do think some people regardless of age are aware of their own sexuality and the limits they are willing to go.

Not sure about Ops circumstances.

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