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Topic: Betray my trust. I'll leave you in the dust.
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Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:14 AM
  
Do you relate? do you value being called trustworthy by other people or is it okay to you when someone tells you you can't be trusted? Do you take it as an affront? What is the meaning of ''I give you my word'' to you? To what extent will you go to honor your word given?What is your Sun sign?
To me, being called trustworthy is the most honorable compliment,it beats compliments on my physical attributes and my intelligence.I feel so good when someone tells me they trust me.That's why I value those 3 words enormously.I can't explain in words how important trust is to me.So I was wondering is it because am mostly Saturn dominant?
Does Saturn wants to be called trustworthy but finds it difficult to trust people?
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somethingexcellent
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posted July 14, 2013 02:18 AM
I forget your chart, all I remember is lotsa Leo, Cancer Moon, and Capricorn AC. What degree was your Cancer Moon again? Was it 0 or 29?IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted July 14, 2013 02:20 AM
Yep, I can relate. In worst case scenarios, I tend to hold grudges. Haha. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I forget your chart, all I remember is lotsa Leo, Cancer Moon, and Capricorn AC. What degree was your Cancer Moon again? Was it 0 or 29?
Critical degree cancer Moon Does that explain it? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted July 14, 2013 02:26 AM
You know my placements Jess  I've been betrayed by so many "friends' and people I truly cared about. I've become to numb to the concept of trust.
You can only trust yourself! IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted July 14, 2013 02:29 AM
Well I mean it might! Critical degree planets are often defining forces in a person, especially at 29. I haven't looked at 0 degree planets much.IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted July 14, 2013 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You know my placements Jess I've been betrayed by so many "friends' and people I truly cared about. I've become to numb to the concept of trust.
You can only trust yourself!
Reminds me of the Linkin' Park song hahaha 
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somethingexcellent
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posted July 14, 2013 02:32 AM
^OMFG I USED TO LISTEN TO THAT SONG SO MUCH LIKE SIX YEARS AGO...when I was a gross middle schooler................IP: Logged |
LoVeLy
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posted July 14, 2013 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Well I mean it might! Critical degree planets are often defining forces in a person, especially at 29. I haven't looked at 0 degree planets much.
Can you say a bit more on critical degrees if you don't mind please... My rising sign is Lib on the 29th degree
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Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You know my placements Jess I've been betrayed by so many "friends' and people I truly cared about. I've become to numb to the concept of trust.
You can only trust yourself!
Yes! I can detach myself emotionally from people even if I'm interacting like my normal self. @Lunae I'm big on holding onto past hurts, I can harbor grudges for a looooooonnng time. But am changing that now. It does no good. IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted July 14, 2013 02:37 AM
@SE, Hahahaha oh, our childhood days  Anyways, Cancers in my observation don't trust people easily (same with Scorps) that's why when they get betrayed, it's goodbye forever them. I used to trust people very easily but I learned my lesson after I got betrayed big time. It'll take a gazillion years before I learn to forgive. I know holding grudges does no good but well.. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShBpOoASkpA Powerless. ten thousand promises ten thousand ways to lose LOVE IT. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:45 AM
So it's my cancer moon?I don't understand the concept of trusting people easily.Ever. IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted July 14, 2013 02:48 AM
Possible. My Cancer friends, both sun and mooners are like that. Well, My Pisces moon + Gemini asc seem to perfectly understand it unfortunately hahaha. I tend to be very open to people, but I have learned to be a bit more cautious. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:50 AM
Will they help people who've betrayed their trust? or will they leave them in the dust? if they get the chance?IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted July 14, 2013 02:51 AM
In my experience, I don't think so. They can give you an ice cold shoulder forever. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:52 AM
Would you help someone who've betrayed you?IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted July 14, 2013 02:52 AM
I think it’s because of your leo stellium. Leos I know value honour and justice, a bit like knights in the old days. So yeah I can see why you value being called trustworthy.When friends betray me I feel sad coz I feel like there are so many external forces that affect people and sometimes we just can’t win. I forgive friends/family/ex-lovers quite easily. When random people betray me I’m like “Oh well”. I don’t mind if someone thinks that I can’t be trusted. I trust people, I don’t think that they have shady agendas unless they give me reasons to think otherwise. Sun in capricorn
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
What extent will you go to honor your word given?
If keeping my words doesn’t have terrible effects on my friends/family then yeah I’ll keep my words.
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12muddy
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posted July 14, 2013 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Would you help someone who've betrayed you?
Depends. If that person was a dear dear friend, ex-lover, family member, I would. If it was some random a-hole, lol I would have to fight the temptation to kick them to their demise. IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted July 14, 2013 02:56 AM
@JessIt really depends. I will probably, in a life and death situation haha. Otherwise, she can bite the dust haha #bittermuch?
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Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 02:58 AM
^Thanks MuddyIf random people stab me in my back, I won't consider it as betrayal because I haven't given them my trust. I normally won't give my word if I can't do it.Basically I will assess and weigh the situation before I give my word. So it's due to both my sun and moon signs? Interesting. I'd love to hear what others have to say? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Depends. If that person was a dear dear friend, ex-lover, family member, I would.
That's my issue LOL If you were someone as dear to THEM,they wouldn't betray you. I'm conflicted about this.. I don't think I would help them.. BUT I would feel awful about it afterwards.. I just have to make sure I'm not available to them I don't understand how people do it though! How can someone betray another person and then go to them for help??? IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted July 14, 2013 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
That's my issueLOL [B] If you were someone as dear to THEM,they wouldn't betray you.[/B I'm conflicted about this.. I don't think I would help them..]
I know what you mean. I freaking feel the same way. But it is unbearable to know that someone I love/used to love and care about has to suffer. I’d help them not because I love them (oh god I do <cry> ), I’d help them in order to save my sanity. IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted July 14, 2013 03:08 AM
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Jessica2407
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posted July 14, 2013 03:14 AM
I wouldn't.My sanity wouldn't mind. I must sound like a callous beetch oh well Actually that's the point of this thread. Would you leave ''them''(your ''betrayals'') in the dust if you get the chance? IP: Logged |
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