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Topic: Venus in Virgo...disadvantage?
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 08:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by meissieri: *deep sigh* This. Tell me about it. I have had to give up some chances to meet some new people or even to have fun (Venus expression, too) for family visits, school, problems, health. Been single for a very long time. Soon it'll be five years. I've had one date in my entire life, which was with my boyfriend at the time. FML I hate this placement so much. Maybe it's the earth sign in me, but I want to just find out through experience what it's like to have dates, the excitement of a possible relationship growing, getting closer. Not just by having to think to myself what I'm looking for or by using astrology. Some stuff I thought would be great turned out to be not as beautiful and fun when I went through it for real. I want some experience, but it just never happens. It's to the point where I'm close to bursting to tears whenever I see a couple happy on the streets or read about love topics on this board. I wish I had a relationship or a date I could ask you guys for advice about. There's more in my chart tipping the odds against me, but Virgo Venus definitely doesn't help me aside from figuring out which Venus sq Uranus crush is actually more than just a crush. I don't think I've ever heard someone say they're looking for a partner who is modest, helpful and works to keep the relationship going. Ugh. And now that my Venus has finally progressed into Libra, I'm still not any better off because it squares my Cap stellium and Cancer Jupiter/Chiron/MC. Just had to get this off my chest. Maybe other Virgo Venuses can identify with my post.
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starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1828 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 08:49 PM
i have this (in the 10th) and have never experienced issues with dating or finding a man. keeping one is a different story, because i start to drop them from grace each time i notice something wrong. it's a picky placement but i have never seen it as a disadvantage. i am very discriminating and would bet virgo girls have high standards for themselves and aren't the type to 'put out' easily at all, which is something i am happy about. i take my time before i get involved and it leads to having better partners and relationships. i'm cool with my venus placement :-)IP: Logged |
FruitTreeFresh Knowflake Posts: 480 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 12, 2013 09:49 PM
Yes still single at 25. (:IP: Logged |
Astrochologist unregistered
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posted August 12, 2013 11:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Storyteller: I recently read that venus in virgo is a huge disadvantage, can anyone shed any light on this?I have venus in virgo in my 1st house...any ideas how this would play out?
Its a disadvantage because it's in it's fall. If it aspects a benefic it should be alright. Its very unfortunate financially if its touching Pluto or Saturn IP: Logged |
muddyt0es Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 13, 2013 12:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by FruitTreeFresh: Yes still single at 25. (:
My last relationship ended when I turned 22, I am about to turn 26. My Venus is in Virgo (same as Sun, Mercury, Mars [in 12th house] -- and they're all square Saturn). For the last few years, I couldn't be bothered with dating, it felt like a chore. I honestly would rather clean and vacuum than go on a date...blah. However, I also had a guy on the side...or I was his girl on the side? He was a Sag, so detached from the idea of dating, which was perfect because I did *not* want a relationship... so we had this psuedo-relationship. He was the only person I saw, but he dated around and what not. Very passionate when I wanted it to be, and otherwise we were just platonic friends in public/around friends. But I still considered myself single. I've never been a relationship type person. I've only been in 3 serious ones. Most "relationships" have been with Sags, they don't smother me, I hate smothering, and they're distant enough where they keep me wanting. I think that was a bit immature of me, so I've been better lately at finding something a bit more in the middle, not so one sided (me chasing). Sex has always been a very basic thing for me. The first time I had sex, it was very businessy. I did not want to be a virgin and worry about who I would give it away to like my friends who I saw crying that they thought he loved them, etc. Sex generally hasn't been an intimate experience for me. Intimacy scares me. I come across as a very prude person to most, and uptight, but really...I've got this other world under the surface. I'll share a lot of this crazy stuff with people too, but I keep the more intimate details private (like the fact that I am scared of intimacy, for instance haha). Not sure if Virgo in Venus (as well as all the other deetz) have much to do with my qualms with intimacy, tho I can see it stemming from things in the past regardless of Astrology. One thing astrology has helped me realize is, regardless of how negative/stressful something is, if you acknowledge that part of you, you can also work at overcoming it (or nurturing it if it's a good interaction). IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 6417 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 13, 2013 01:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: i have this (in the 10th) and have never experienced issues with dating or finding a man. keeping one is a different story, because i start to drop them from grace each time i notice something wrong. it's a picky placement but i have never seen it as a disadvantage. i am very discriminating and would bet virgo girls have high standards for themselves and aren't the type to 'put out' easily at all, which is something i am happy about. i take my time before i get involved and it leads to having better partners and relationships. i'm cool with my venus placement :-)
Very well said. I have Venus in Virgo and there are certain things I HATE about this placement, but you just reminded me of the good things about it. It's really okay to have high standard, even if it means that we get to be lonely more than other people. IP: Logged |
FruitTreeFresh Knowflake Posts: 480 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 02:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by muddyt0es: My last relationship ended when I turned 22, I am about to turn 26. My Venus is in Virgo (same as Sun, Mercury, Mars [in 12th house] -- and they're all square Saturn). For the last few years, I couldn't be bothered with dating, it felt like a chore. I honestly would rather clean and vacuum than go on a date...blah. However, I also had a guy on the side...or I was his girl on the side? He was a Sag, so detached from the idea of dating, which was perfect because I did *not* want a relationship... so we had this psuedo-relationship. He was the only person I saw, but he dated around and what not. Very passionate when I wanted it to be, and otherwise we were just platonic friends in public/around friends. But I still considered myself single.I've never been a relationship type person. I've only been in 3 serious ones. Most "relationships" have been with Sags, they don't smother me, I hate smothering, and they're distant enough where they keep me wanting. I think that was a bit immature of me, so I've been better lately at finding something a bit more in the middle, not so one sided (me chasing). Sex has always been a very basic thing for me. The first time I had sex, it was very businessy. I did not want to be a virgin and worry about who I would give it away to like my friends who I saw crying that they thought he loved them, etc. Sex generally hasn't been an intimate experience for me. Intimacy scares me. I come across as a very prude person to most, and uptight, but really...I've got this other world under the surface. I'll share a lot of this crazy stuff with people too, but I keep the more intimate details private (like the fact that I am scared of intimacy, for instance haha). Not sure if Virgo in Venus (as well as all the other deetz) have much to do with my qualms with intimacy, tho I can see it stemming from things in the past regardless of Astrology. One thing astrology has helped me realize is, regardless of how negative/stressful something is, if you acknowledge that part of you, you can also work at overcoming it (or nurturing it if it's a good interaction).
I feel you! I was always in a one-sided relationships. I was strung along for almost two years with a guy whom I thought he treated me as his girlfriend to realize that I was only a backup girl. I didn't want to have sex because there's something not right or missing. It started from kissing and soon I'm even turned off - feeling disgusting for he threaded me along for so long when I forgive him and he still gave me stupid reasons. And we lack of communication. Nothing else to talk about. Glad it's over. IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 836 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 13, 2013 02:37 AM
My ex had this placement and if I remember correctly it was conjunct his Mars and he also had Sun and Mercury in Virgo too.He was sensual, sexual and passionate in a raw way that I liked BUT he had poor skills when it was about handling finances, and he was also a bit "emotionally stingy". I mean he showed no emotions, nor had any emotional outbursts- maybe my expectations were not normal anyway, having a Venus sq Pluto I like a bit of drama sometimes. My best friend has this Venus too, but he is a Leo so the combo works better for him, as it just makes him a bit cautious when it comes to spending his money. Regarding his relationships, I dont think that it's a placement that benefits him, as he is 22 and has never, ever been in a serious relationship so far.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 13, 2013 02:57 AM
It seems like if you are a man with Venus in Virgo, it would come across more like the typical male stereotype, someone who isn't that amorous, and men can get away with that sort of thing because it isn't always expected they be really demonstrative about love. It's just masculine to not be lovey-dovey or show a lot of affection. I know a woman with Venus in Virgo and it did have this affect on her. She doesn't have the feminine attributes associated with women and she also has a deeper voice, more baritone than soprano. She didn't ever seem to be bothered by not going on dates and stuff. She is very androgynous and reminds me of a saint. This is an extreme example, I'm sure. IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 1070 From: Midwest Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 04:27 AM
I still maintain that I hate this placement with furious passion. LOL It's honestly not bad at all, but doesn't get recognized it seems. I'll give you an example. An ex... would often complain that I didn't show affection. ESPECIALLY, if we were visiting other people. We would leave and she would complain that it didn't really look like we were a couple. I'm still baffled by that to this day actually. We sat together..? Sooo.... what else is there? Make out in front of everyone? lol But, another side of Virgo Venus. I think anyway, maybe it's something else. I worked 2nd shift as I do now but this was years ago. She worked days and would leave the house around 6 am. It was the dead of winter and really cold! Having gone to bed sometime around perhaps 2 or 3 am. I was in a deep sleep. Then I hear this knocking on the window. It was her and I was a little confused. I went to the front door and there she was standing, holding a cup, and in tears. Apparently her car door was frozen shut and she had been trying hot water with no success. I threw on some clothes, and went out in the freezing cold, half asleep, and got the door open for her. Gave her a little kiss and went back to bed. Not one complaint, or grumbling. But I'm figuring that wasn't taken as romantic so much as it was just a favor. Oh well. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 13, 2013 04:53 AM
Oooo the many trials and tribulations of Venus in Virgo lol or any planet, nearly. It's not really about those sweeping romantic gestures more than it is day-to-day life and getting through that but since Virgo is an earth sign, like others of the same element, it is the most sensual. Earth signs are notoriously sexy. So all the earth sign Venuses should wave their hands in the air like they don't care lol, and think about what they do have, not what they lack. It's a matter of letting go and deciding they want to just experience, not worry or over think first. When Virgo over thinks, she decides she doesn't want to do something and when she decides this, she misses out on life's fun.IP: Logged |
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posted August 13, 2013 05:21 AM
I have Venus in Virgo and I wouldn't call it a disadvantage. I think, the thing with all fallen planets are that they go against the grain of how people feel that planet should be traditionally expressed. Venus indulges itself, it can be lazy and apathetic, is very tolerant, and approaches life with a sense of ease. Virgo is the opposite of many of those traits.But, hey, that doesn't mean that all Virgo Venus people are going to be the super-critical, picky, anal-retentive people of lore. At an evolved level, I think Venus in Virgo is a beautiful place. Venus is where we gain the most pleasure and, as a Virgo Venus, I gain incredible pleasure from physical health. I've noticed how at peace and comfortable I feel when everything is clean, I eat the right foods, I exercise steadily. I find beauty not necessarily in perfection, but a sense that everything is organic, whole, and clean. Organizing my bedroom is almost like a spiritual experience. No joke. I love working, being productive, feeling useful (but that's also my Virgo Mars). Even though, as a Leo, I can have random spells of laziness, I feel much, much better when I'm engaged in meaningful work. Virgo Venus people can be some of the most creative people around, in terms of sheer productivity. We really do relax by working, as funny as that sounds. We're definitely not sexless, either. Far from it, actually. I always make the joke that Virgins are probably hornier than anyone else. Virgo Venus are very, very sensual. It's the little details of physical sensations and/or physical traits of other people that can get me going. We are also the definition of "quality over quantity". The critical eye will always be there, as far as love partners go. But, in evolved ones, it will be a case of being discerning/discriminating, not judgmental. We're not cold, either. We often care way more about pleasing the other person than we do ourselves. But, we just like very simple, modest displays of affection. I find sentimentality embarrassing and even annoying in some cases. Just tell me that you love me and mean it. But, don't try too hard. It comes off as too gushy and sappy as well as not entirely sincere. Virgo Venus people place much, much more trust on people's actions than their words. My attitude is "show me you love me, instead of telling me." That's why I prefer very loyal, genuine people who may be less effusive over people who just talk a big game but really don't have much substance or depth when it comes to relationships. I have zero tolerance for flakes. I've really grown into my Virgo energy, I feel, and I love it. I still can be quite critical but I've evolved. I like to think Virgo Venus, in particular, just makes me very grounded, reasonable, discerning, productive, a bit reserved sometimes but easy to relate to and real. IP: Logged |
FruitTreeFresh Knowflake Posts: 480 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 05:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by BIt was the dead of winter and really cold! Having gone to bed sometime around perhaps 2 or 3 am. I was in a deep sleep. Then I hear this knocking on the window. It was her and I was a little confused. I went to the front door and there she was standing, holding a cup, and in tears. Apparently her car door was frozen shut and she had been trying hot water with no success. I threw on some clothes, and went out in the freezing cold, half asleep, and got the door open for her. Gave her a little kiss and went back to bed. Not one complaint, or grumbling. . [/B]
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iliketurtles Knowflake Posts: 382 From: 2099 Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 13, 2013 08:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Blackbird:
If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the 1600s, buy Manhattan from the natives for a handful of beads, return to the present and start collecting billions of dollars of rent every month.
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Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 13, 2013 09:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Blackbird: Venus is in its "fall" (weakest place) in the sign of Virgo. The planet that represents love and beauty, placed in the sign that represents discrimination. With this placement, you may look at things and people with a critical eye; you appreciate people and things that are the right size, the right shape, the right color, not too flashy or too loud. You appreciate order, organization, neatness and cleanliness. You may be discriminating in love; you might have a list of requirements for any potential partner, and you can't or won't fall in love unless those requirements are fulfilled.I am not familiar with the placement of Venus in the 1st house, but I imagine that your attractiveness and general appeal to other people are important to you. You may dress, act and speak in a neat, refined way in an effort to attract others' attention or win their approval. What is your rising sign?
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hippichick Knowflake Posts: 3396 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 13, 2013 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Oooo the many trials and tribulations of Venus in Virgo lol or any planet, nearly. It's not really about those sweeping romantic gestures more than it is day-to-day life and getting through that but since Virgo is an earth sign, like others of the same element, it is the most sensual. Earth signs are notoriously sexy. So all the earth sign Venuses should wave their hands in the air like they don't care lol, and think about what they do have, not what they lack. It's a matter of letting go and deciding they want to just experience, not worry or over think first. When Virgo over thinks, she decides she doesn't want to do something and when she decides this, she misses out on life's fun.
Sexy, sensual....exactly....why I keep this one kind of in my life around...I do find all earth signs to be such! Course my Taurus moon probably helps with my attraction to them  IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 166158 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 13, 2013 10:07 AM
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fireandice Knowflake Posts: 48 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted August 13, 2013 11:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by the89freespirit: I have Venus in Virgo and I wouldn't call it a disadvantage. I think, the thing with all fallen planets are that they go against the grain of how people feel that planet should be traditionally expressed. Venus indulges itself, it can be lazy and apathetic, is very tolerant, and approaches life with a sense of ease. Virgo is the opposite of many of those traits.But, hey, that doesn't mean that all Virgo Venus people are going to be the super-critical, picky, anal-retentive people of lore. At an evolved level, I think Venus in Virgo is a beautiful place. Venus is where we gain the most pleasure and, as a Virgo Venus, I gain incredible pleasure from physical health. I've noticed how at peace and comfortable I feel when everything is clean, I eat the right foods, I exercise steadily. I find beauty not necessarily in perfection, but a sense that everything is organic, whole, and clean. Organizing my bedroom is almost like a spiritual experience. No joke. I love working, being productive, feeling useful (but that's also my Virgo Mars). Even though, as a Leo, I can have random spells of laziness, I feel much, much better when I'm engaged in meaningful work. Virgo Venus people can be some of the most creative people around, in terms of sheer productivity. We really do relax by working, as funny as that sounds. We're definitely not sexless, either. Far from it, actually. I always make the joke that Virgins are probably hornier than anyone else. Virgo Venus are very, very sensual. It's the little details of physical sensations and/or physical traits of other people that can get me going. We are also the definition of "quality over quantity". The critical eye will always be there, as far as love partners go. But, in evolved ones, it will be a case of being discerning/discriminating, not judgmental. We're not cold, either. We often care way more about pleasing the other person than we do ourselves. But, we just like very simple, modest displays of affection. I find sentimentality embarrassing and even annoying in some cases. Just tell me that you love me and mean it. But, don't try too hard. It comes off as too gushy and sappy as well as not entirely sincere. Virgo Venus people place much, much more trust on people's actions than their words. My attitude is "show me you love me, instead of telling me." That's why I prefer very loyal, genuine people who may be less effusive over people who just talk a big game but really don't have much substance or depth when it comes to relationships. I have zero tolerance for flakes. I've really grown into my Virgo energy, I feel, and I love it. I still can be quite critical but I've evolved. I like to think Virgo Venus, in particular, just makes me very grounded, reasonable, discerning, productive, a bit reserved sometimes but easy to relate to and real.
Beautifully put! I have Venus in Virgo (8th house). That's one of the best descriptions I've ever read, I second every word. IP: Logged |
muddyt0es Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 13, 2013 01:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: It's a matter of letting go and deciding they want to just experience, not worry or over think first. When Virgo over thinks, she decides she doesn't want to do something and when she decides this, she misses out on life's fun.
YES! SO true. I have a hard time with physical displays of affection. Hugging family, speaking the words "I love you." is tough. Writing it all out, so easy (could be partly because I grew up in the internet age and a huge deal of my communication has been via typed word). I've been having fun the last four years, but recently I started worrying I was moving too far from the idea of dating. I'm an awkward person as it were when it comes to social things, but it usually works in my favor. I've been avoiding dating, focusing on getting my career going, and what little social energy I have to expend, I don't want to date...dating is so not fun for me. Except for this past weekend! Went on a very nice date, with a very nice boy. And he texts me back, but doesn't over-communicate which is so nice. Under the surface, my Virgo in Venus in my 12th... so black & white, compartmentalized feelings. Pisces Moon helps me connect tho, at least  IP: Logged |
Supermeggs12 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: California Registered: Jul 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 01:21 PM
I have libra rising, Venus in Virgo twelth house. And some of the Virgo descriptions don't exactly fit me..IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 1070 From: Midwest Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 01:53 PM
Okay I'll give it up. Libra Rising, Leo Sun, Gem Moon, all three Venus, Mars, and Mercury in Virgo in the 12th. I suppose I'll start with the most popular Venus-Virgo topic. Sexuality. INTENSE! If you were to guess you probably wouldn't guess Virgo. But as was pointed out to me it could be the combo Venus-Mars Virgo? I'm not knowledgeable enough to know to tell you myself. I'd just say it's STRONG. Earthy is a good way to describe it. Sensual. IF I DO connect with someone on other levels (quite rare) it's **POSSIBLE** that it's like forgetting who you are, where you are, what day it is. LOL If I DON'T connect with you on other levels, then it's very dull, boring, mechanical, and I won't even bother. Despite having a very strong sexuality, I will wait, and can wait incredibly long periods of time because much more rests on it. For me, it's paramount that there be other firm, grounding, intimate feelings to the other person. Though my sexuality is intense, it's bridged through other things. So it's very typical of me to be careful, cautious, and yes, very critical. For me it's very simple. I just need to feel strong chemistry, and easy flow of things that doesn't take tons of effort to get. I'm having difficulty explaining that. Just many other of the typically thought of Virgo traits kick in here. Could I live with "faults" here and there, or even bigger ones? Yeah, I'm not stone cold. If we just naturally fit, I'll put down a lot of my criticism.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 13, 2013 02:15 PM
Everyone reading this go hug someone you know with Venus in Virgo, haha. They all need hugs even though they won't let you know directly.IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 1070 From: Midwest Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 02:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Everyone reading this go hug someone you know with Venus in Virgo, haha. They all need hugs even though they won't let you know directly.
Just make sure you smell good. HAHAHA! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 13, 2013 02:44 PM
Smell Good ROFFL 
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 13, 2013 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Zander916: Just make sure you smell good. HAHAHA!
"You" as in who? LOL. But yeah, make sure they do. IP: Logged | |