posted August 12, 2013 06:40 PM            

Ok so the Anti vertex would be 25 Aries. The Anti vertex is what YOU bring to others. The vertex is what others bring to you.

I will need to think about it as the vertex, like Yods, take quite a bit of thought.

I wonder if you have any other asteroids conj both of these points like Sedna or another asteroid for betrayal etc.

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posted August 12, 2013 06:43 PM            

as for Asteroids, I just don't use them, I should but I am more of a Karmic Astrologer than anything, or at least that's always been my strong point.

Can you believe I've been an Astrologer for 30 plus years and I don't use Asteroids? Call me old school.

posted August 12, 2013 06:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I see earthy Pisces

You do not have the more severe Deja conj the Moon so maybe you have BPD like traits but not full blown BPD. What do you think?

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I think that I do have it.

posted August 12, 2013 06:44 PM            

I actually had the symptoms of BPD a while ago but I've gotten a lot better since then.

I think a lot of young people go through a time where they seem a lot like disordered individuals but for the most part, the crazy / intense manifestations fade away with time / experience and maturity. At least that's been the case with me.

Anyway, my chart does support all the characteristics of BPD - afflicted Sun, Moon, ASC and Mars. Strong Pluto and Saturn - insecurity + intensity + anger.

posted August 12, 2013 06:46 PM            

I am my own kind of weirdo and I love you ANY way you come.

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posted August 12, 2013 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
*silently chiming in..*

I actually had the symptoms of BPD a while ago but I've gotten a lot better since then.

I think a lot of young people go through a time where they seem a lot like disordered individuals but for the most part, the crazy / intense manifestations fade away with time / experience and maturity. At least that's been the case with me.

Anyway, my chart does support all the characteristics of BPD - afflicted Sun, Moon, ASC and Mars. Strong Pluto and Saturn - insecurity + intensity + anger.

My Dejanira doesn't do anything, maybe that's why I'm not an actual borderline *phew*.

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Yes, I think dejanira is a very, very pivotal asteroid.

I found this out by my jumping in and doing charts and then asking people who had deja conj the moon what their lives were like. Then, I saw the pattern which has never been different.

The Astrologer has the situation of a person who is in denial so if I saw a chart with this and the person said they were not sexually abused and did not have a bad childhood, I would not believe it.

The charts are always right. The Astrologer may be flawed and is, as he is human but the charts will always prove to me true imo

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posted August 12, 2013 06:52 PM            

If you're curious about my chart I wouldn't mind sharing it with you. Just e-mail me.

posted August 12, 2013 06:56 PM            

(smh)

~Back when BPD really meant BPD.

posted August 12, 2013 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
I was diagnosed with BPD some 14 years ago.

(smh)

~Back when BPD really meant BPD.

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Wow SM

Do you want to put up your chart, Friend?

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posted August 12, 2013 07:28 PM            

If YOU would like me to look, I would be more than happy but I don't need to see your chart to know you.

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posted August 12, 2013 07:29 PM            

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posted August 12, 2013 07:36 PM            

Ami <3

posted August 12, 2013 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Were you diagnosed with BPD, Tony?

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posted August 12, 2013 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Newrise:
Lala, what did you find on chiron square Venus? I have that aspect :|

Ami <3

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posted August 12, 2013 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
I was diagnosed with BPD some 14 years ago.

(smh)

~Back when BPD really meant BPD.

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I find that people with BPD and PTSD (trauma based disorders) often get misdiagnosed with Bipolar Disorder (which seems to have become a catch phrase for pretty much anything, although it has its own specific traits).

Really interesting thread, it's got me interested in the asteroids, which I've never studied at all!

Hugs to all. We're all human.

posted August 12, 2013 08:09 PM            

I see some of what you've described in her.

posted August 12, 2013 08:09 PM            

ah - left out Sedna

(Sorry, I've been faithful to photobucket for years and finally gave up on their service just now... way too many issues with the most recent updates over there. trying out imgur... hope it works) >.<

Sedna is at 7deg of Taurus house 9 cnj
- *W.Black Moon *Schedir* *Hamal* *Adhil* Unitas

BPD and Manic Depression are both put* under the umbrella label "bipolar disorder" nowadays. ~ (I am not bipolar) *>*

I rather wish they wouldn't do that with mental health illnesses or disabilities. It's the same thing with Autism, they should at least come to acknowledge there is a full spectrum of difference from one sufferer/patient to the next. (Borderline Spectrum) ~__~#)

posted August 12, 2013 08:11 PM            

My brother has that exact - 27d Taurus in the 11th.

posted August 12, 2013 08:12 PM            

Hm.

posted August 12, 2013 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
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I rather wish they wouldn't do that with mental health illnesses or disabilities. It's the same thing with Autism, they should at least come to acknowledge there is a full spectrum of difference from one sufferer/patient to the next. (Borderline Spectrum) ~__~#)

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Seriously! I live in a fairly progressive area of the country, and autism and Asperger's are recognized as spectrum disorders, but the medical/psychiatric community still seems really intent on diagnosing everyone as bipolar. It's irritating.

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