posted August 12, 2013 09:14 PM            

I'm sure that you get asked all the time, and like lalalinda, I don't like to post my chart so much...although I suppose any neurotic tendencies I have already show in my personality, ha.

If not, that's totally understandable. I've just never really got into the psychological aspects of astrology, and I'm curious!

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posted August 12, 2013 09:44 PM            

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posted August 12, 2013 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by crabbypatty:
I used to think my mother was BPD ...whatever she is , she is a piece of work. Nobody knows her TOB but I know date and place if you care to look Ami ...let me know and I'll text ...

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I have thought the same about my mom, and I know that she had some questionable experiences as a child. She talks about it once in a blue moon, but then denies it or minimizes it at other times. I'm going to look at her chart with the points mentioned and see if any of it fits.

posted August 13, 2013 12:12 AM            

One relative of mine who demonstrates BPD characteristics the most has that in her chart, although the conjunction is loose and in different signs.

A few others have the fractured child aspect. Also in loose conjunction and different signs, which I find interesting.

posted August 13, 2013 01:10 AM            

This is an a heartbreaking aspect that for some reason doesn't realize it's sterling worth until time has passed.
It's done in the name of love and misguided loyality. With this aspect a lot of time is spent doing (trying to) the right thing,
even when it costs a little bit of our soul.

I recently realized a mistake I made that completely altered my adult life because I refused to listen to someone who loved me.
In hindsight it is so clear and quite painful because time is something you can never get back. The decision I made was based on my misguided belief that it is easier for me to just endure the pain and dissappointment rather than believe the reality/truth about someone I unconditionally loved. (H2&5)

Chiron is the great teacher, he taught the best of the best but was ubable to heal himself from his physical pain. He was greatly loved and respected. Being a centaur he had noble Sagitarian qualities that embody the fire signs the most noble imo is the courage to stand up against the odds for truth.

We are motivated to do this because the truth is important. We don't lie to ourselves (this can be modified) we know exactly what we've done in the past and just because we didn't get caught or others don't know about it tells us that we are nobody to judge another and to do that would make us hypocrites. Our truth about ourselves is the crux of of why we judge ourselves so critically.
In the end, trying to live up to our own standards we sacrifice ourself for those we love and it's not unusual for it not to be intimate/romantic, a lot of times it's family related or a strong belief in something (like a cause) (see house 1 and 3)

In all fairness my Venus/Chiron square is part of a Grand Square with Pluto and Jupiter (my chart ruler) Houses 2,5,9, and 12. This has in a sense partially ruled my life because it is also the hand I was dealt with in life and the way I have overcome or mastered this Karma.

I'm quite confident I won't be repeating this lesson in my next life.

sending out a heartfelt hug to those who share this aspect and I am very interested in how you handle this.

posted August 13, 2013 04:01 AM            

My Chiron has no aspects.

It is 1.44 degress Taurus, 8th house, retrograde. I have not a clue what that might mean.

EDIT: Ohhhhh! I just found an interpretation. That's not pleasant!

posted August 13, 2013 07:45 AM            

As I have chiron square Venus natally, I also have it in synastry. I perhaps have chosen this theme for myself, I wonder why?

posted August 13, 2013 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Zander916:
Interesting. I never really looked into it.

My Chiron has no aspects.

It is 1.44 degress Taurus, 8th house, retrograde. I have not a clue what that might mean.

EDIT: Ohhhhh! I just found an interpretation. That's not pleasant!

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posted August 13, 2013 12:02 PM            

So much of this square depends on the houses/signs that Chiron and Venus sit.

also are they involved in a configuration and does any of this connect to the Ascendant or Ascendant ruler?
This is important to pinpoint where these issues begin.

How to deal with it? This is a sensitive aspect so give yourself some credit and quit putting yourself second, you are worth it, why beat yourself up over guilt, we all make mistakes but thats how we learn, when this happens fix it and then forgive yourself and move on.

with synastry, relationships are give and take and you should not be giving more than your partner otherwise you are setting yourself up to become a doormat, this never works. Instead of asking yourself if you are worthy of their love, you should be asking yourself if they are worthy of yours?

posted August 13, 2013 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I was going to wait to give my opinion, but MY chart work has shown me that Dejanira conj the Moon shows BPD.

Dejanira conjunct the Child asteroid shows a fracturing of the self but not as severe as BPD. I have this.

In every case of Deja conj the Moon, I have seen sexual abuse. All cases have beeb BPD but one was "just' severe sexual abuse and other abuse but not BPD.

That is one man's experience doing charts.

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posted August 13, 2013 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
NO-15 degrees is a whole half of a sign lol

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