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Doux Rêve
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posted August 28, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's the Moon/Pluto, Ami.
People with Plutonian Moons are usually quite emotionally honest..
Sounds like that girl is a je**.
It's not the aspect itself, although it can make one quite manipulative.

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posted August 28, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by m.blade:
I might assume your son was the moon?

And I wouldn't do that either. That's pretty strange. She basically led him on. Maybe neptune too? It seems typical of neptune to do that


NO This girl had Moon oppose Pluto in the natal. In synastry, they had moon conj Moon at 4 degrees.

In synastry, they had Pluto sq mars, though.

She was the Pluto.

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posted August 28, 2013 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohh it could be the Mars/Pluto in synastry, I think!

It sometimes points to mind games.

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Originally posted by Diplopoda:
It's like Scorpio moon

Natives tend to be very tortured. They can withstand abuse or definitely have been abused emotionally. They tend to attract it. And if they choose, they can channel their abuse and hurt to others they seem weaker than them. Moon Pluto IMO is a bit scarier because Pluto directly hits the moon which is a very soft spot on its own. I knew someone with Libra moon conjunct Pluto.
They come off as sweetlings but their emotions can be full of contradiction and cruelty.

You will be able to feel it if you have any virgo placements. Seems Scorpio love directing their cruelty upon virgo or maybe even aries placements.


ha
my partner has eros in virgo so that's why he loves me to direct my ”cruelty” upon him!!

*its not like scorpio moon, they can control it better than we do.

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posted August 28, 2013 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Ohh it could be the Mars/Pluto in synastry, I think!

It sometimes points to mind games.


Maybe,that is it Doux.

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posted August 28, 2013 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What brought this aspect to the fore was a girl that really flirted with my son. She even gave him her number w/out his asking.

Then, he asked her out and she acted like he was a complete jerk for even trying.

We could not figure her out because she acted to sweet and then she chopped off his hand when he made a move,

How does this fit in here? Does it? Thanks.


I have Moon opposition Pluto. I love it and hate it at the same time (Pluto is also a singleton in my 5H).

Something I have come to realize about this placement, a facet of it, is my vengeful nature against men.

I want a relationship, but when I meet someone I like I immediately put myself on guard, somewhat.

I act as though I don't care. I don't want them to know I care because it would ruin my control over them.

Pluto is about intensity, fear, control, power... the Moon wants to show how it feels but Pluto tightens the reigns

each time this may happen.

The girl reminds me of a part of myself, one that's fading away but still apart of me. I behave somewhat similarly with my guy friend who was interested in me over the years. I didn't know how I felt about him, so I conclude that is what Moon / Pluto (in HARD aspect) do in that situation. Then again, they test their desired subjects like that too. To see how persistent they are, how bad they want it, if they are sincere. It weeds out the weaklings because Moon / Pluto people only want to be around others as tough as they are.

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posted August 28, 2013 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 28, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jinni     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a moon-mars conjuction which opposes my pluto. I don`t think that it`s moon-pluto thing either. I can turn my charm on and maybe give more flirty/interested vibe than I am but I think that it`s due my venus aspects and I would never ever be rude more like that I´m having good time and I don`t understand that some people can take flirting and friendly chatting more seriously than I.

My relationship with the mother is good and healthy and I haven`t been abused. Maybe moon-pluto is playing out for me more in inner layers. I´m pretty suspicious about people and I´m unwilling to count on them or let my guards down. I feel that I´m losing my inner power when I`m sharing my feelings with people.

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posted August 28, 2013 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioninash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have moon square pluto in the natal, pluto in first house along with my scorpio rising (obv.).
i definitely agree with feeling empathetic. a close friend or family could be sad or upset in the littlest way, and i still feel it and want to help them as much as i can.
i never really been abusive, but i've definitely put up with it :/ i was with a guy for about 9 months and he was emotionally/ mentally/ physically abusive. but i put up with it and til this day i don't know why i did. definitely the worst time of my life, but i've learned so much from it and in a way i'm thankful because now i know what its like, i know the signs and am more able to help someone in their time of need if they were going through something like i did.

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posted August 28, 2013 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioninash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i also love this aspect. its nice to be able to meet someone and know what kind of a person they are off the bat.

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posted August 28, 2013 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow
I love all these answers!

Hanna--You seem to confirm what she was doing. Then, get this?

He found a g/f and I think it is the real deal. When he posted it on his FB, the other girl wrote this cryptic post about how he was so much braver and stronger than she thought.

I had the sense that she wanted to pull him in and do another time around with it, now that he moved on.

Does that fit?

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posted August 28, 2013 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow
I love all these answers!

Hanna--You seem to confirm what she was doing. Then, get this?

He found a g/f and I think it is the real deal. When he posted it on his FB, the other girl wrote this cryptic post about how he was so much braver and stronger than she thought.

I had the sense that she wanted to pull him in and do another time around with it, now that he moved on.

Does that fit?


Yes I think so. What were her other placements though? Sun / Moon?

Unevolved or a Moon / Pluto that isn't done growing often doesn't want you but doesn't want anyone else to have you either.

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posted August 28, 2013 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


She is an Aries Sun and a Taurus moon. I don't know her ASC but it could be Libra.

Anyway, thanks so very much for you help, Hanna!

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posted August 28, 2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:


She is an Aries Sun and a Taurus moon. I don't know her ASC but it could be Libra.

Anyway, thanks so very much for you help, Hanna!


Oh that's hilarious... my same placements.

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posted August 28, 2013 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know one with Taurus Moon opposite Scorpio Pluto - and as a Capricorn Moon I am really disappointed in his behaviour
I have told him that as well.. and I could care less how he feels about it.

My point is - no matter what problems you have - you simply don't have the right to project them and make them everyone else's problems. He should be able to deal with his own issues without going out of his way to hurt other people.

I am just critical and disappointed overall.

I'm not sure if I'd feel this way about other harsh Moon/Pluto aspects.. or just the Taurus/Scorp one (since it's closer to home).

I just don't feel like they are emotionally mature enough to be in control and do the right thing. And they think they are "strong" - but they are actually all over the place.
The conjunction might give strength - but not the negative aspects.

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posted August 28, 2013 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have moon in leo square pluto. i'm extremely sensitive to everything. i can see through people easily. when i love i love with my absolute being. fiercely protective of people i love. i'm very trustworthy and loyal however many female friends felt as though i'm out to get them which is just one big lie. i have troubles where female friends just turned against me but as the years went by, i learned to embrace my power and honor it. i'm also artistic.

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posted August 28, 2013 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon square pluto (moon in capricorn and pluto at the beginning of scorpio).

My childhood was rough (abandonment by a parent, death of friends and family members at a young age, betrayal, etc). With this aspect, I feel things very intensely and often must face situations that require me to think on my feet.

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posted August 28, 2013 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
i have moon in leo square pluto. i'm extremely sensitive to everything. i can see through people easily. when i love i love with my absolute being. fiercely protective of people i love. i'm very trustworthy and loyal however many female friends felt as though i'm out to get them which is just one big lie. i have troubles where female friends just turned against me but as the years went by, i learned to embrace my power and honor it. i'm also artistic.

Is Moon sq and oppose Pluto an indication of a mistrust of women. Can we say that?

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posted August 28, 2013 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i trust women but it's them who don't trust me and turn on me. just recently my bf of 5+ years showed her hidden jealousy. i get along better w/ men. i also experience power struggles at work...again...mostly w/women...a guy friend once told me i have a powerful presence and it made my female coworkers uncomfortable. i have become secure enough to allow myself to be vulnerable. i love this aspect. it's the ''what doesn't kill you makes you stronger aspect'

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posted August 28, 2013 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I know one with Taurus Moon opposite Scorpio Pluto - and as a Capricorn Moon I am really disappointed in his behaviour
I have told him that as well.. and I could care less how he feels about it.

My point is - no matter what problems you have - you simply don't have the right to project them and make them everyone else's problems. He should be able to deal with his own issues without going out of his way to hurt other people.

I am just critical and disappointed overall.

I'm not sure if I'd feel this way about other harsh Moon/Pluto aspects.. or just the Taurus/Scorp one (since it's closer to home).

I just don't feel like they are emotionally mature enough to be in control and do the right thing. And they think they are "strong" - but they are actually all over the place.
The conjunction might give strength - but not the negative aspects.


So you think Moon sq or oppose Pluto is always a negative?

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posted August 28, 2013 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something else I noticed is - they interpret the smallest thing as a rejection - and run with it!
And then they go nuts trying to get revenge over something that wasn't even directed at them.

This was my experience with the guy I mentioned.
First he fell in love... much too quickly and intensely for my liking.. literally at first sight when he met me.
I was nice to him but not emotional because it takes me a VERY long time to truly love someone.
I felt like we could have chemistry so I was curious about him - but I was not "emotional" in my behaviour towards him.
He completely misinterpreted me as being dismissive or rejecting him - and went off on some quest to make me jealous with all out mutual friends - and did really ridiculous things. I was still friendly but very detached and I continued being nice for some time - so he stopped behaving this way for a while. I thought he finally got the message that I would rather watch paint dry while sticking needles in my eyeballs - then play stupid games with him.
So for maybe 3 months things were "ok" between us and we seemed to be on friendly terms.
Then low and behold he goes off on a limb - and completely misinterprets something - once again... now falling under the impression that I like another guy (who is gay) more than I like him.
So after this ^ again he reverts to his stupid initial behaviour - and he is still at it now months later.. And he is overseas now - and still doing it on FB (even though I deleted him a long time ago, but we have like 50 mutual friends or however many.. and he can post stuff on their pages or tag them).

Anyway - he is obsessed.. He is continuing to be obsessed and he is not dropping it either - just mental.
I am not playing any game with him at all.. I have not responded in any way - and he keeps on keeping on (by himself)..

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posted August 28, 2013 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astra:
I have moon square pluto (moon in capricorn and pluto at the beginning of scorpio).

My childhood was rough (abandonment by a parent, death of friends and family members at a young age, betrayal, etc). With this aspect, I feel things very intensely and often must face situations that require me to think on my feet.


Do you think your childhood being rough is the aspect--Moon sq Pluto or the Moon being Cap.

Did your mother abandon you?

I am very sorry, Astra.

We have not talked for a while but I appreciate you a lot!

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posted August 28, 2013 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami - I don't think it's always negative.. but maybe this is just one way that it can play out.
I just found it 'insane'. because there is no way to get through to them either.

Sometimes I wonder about Aqua guy who has the Taurus Moon opp Pluto - as to how similar he might be to the guy I mentioned.
Because he often says he is being rejected by so many girls.. but sometimes I wonder if he really is - or if he is misinterpreting.
Because I've seen for myself how this other guy behaved - when I wasn't even rejecting him.

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posted August 28, 2013 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my closest mates has this, Scorpio Moon Conjunct Pluto in the 2nd, Good compatibility with my Scorpio asc/Jupi scorpio/Pluto scorpio.

He has a very strong, deep, powerful and dark emotional substance and seems to crave intensity in life and relationships, anything he doesn't agree with he will totally go against with force, and he gets emotinally wrapped up in alot of situations, me and him both seem to attract other peoples 'demons' to fit in with the plutonic energy

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1st House: Scorpio Ascendant - Conjunct 'Stellium' Scorpio Pluto, Scorpio Jupiter, Sagittarius Sun, Sagittarius Mercury.

2nd House:
Capricorn Moon, Capricorn Neptune, Capricorn Uranus - Conjunction.

3rd House:
Saturn in Pisces.

9th House:
Mars in Leo,

11th House:
Venus in Scorpio

12th house:
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