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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can believe in a god, but believing in a god is not Christianity, Christianity is turning it into control & power and just turns you into Dot from eastenders.

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted October 07, 2013 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
If God is that which you said, and i could beleieve that, then i think it is an offence to god to have Christianity symbolizing him.
Christians are ***** , they ****** the planet, the killed pagians, they ruined the tribes people and they supported the roman crusade which began the poverty

Let's just drop this religion discussion now and go back to the original post, agreed everyone?

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I'm so cappy
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posted October 07, 2013 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noooo. I enjoy this farce too much

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed - someone said Astrology can't be proven scientifically? How so? I would say it can be proven quite easily

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Barbiegirl19
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posted October 07, 2013 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoFish:
I can believe in a god, but believing in a god is not Christianity, Christianity is turning it into control & power and just turns you into Dot from eastenders.

Christianity is actually the belief in Jesus Christ and his teachings....

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted October 07, 2013 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Agreed - someone said Astrology can't be proven scientifically? How so? I would say it can be proven quite easily

I think it can be proven socially, but not scientifically, yet.
There is no hard proof.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted October 07, 2013 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But hey on the bright side it took people arguing and fighting to even comment on a topic of yours.

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
But hey on the bright side it took people arguing and fighting to even comment on a topic of yours.

Is that supposed to be a dig?

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Barbiegirl19
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posted October 07, 2013 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Is that supposed to be a dig?

Take it as you want

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I'm so cappy
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posted October 07, 2013 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't wait to be good enough at astrology to make people like WTF

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barbie, you brought up religion yourself then got offended and sensitive because my overpowering opinion differs.

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posted October 07, 2013 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Barbie, you brought up religion yourself then got offended and sensitive because my overpowering opinion differs.

Ummmm you might wanna read the very beginning of the topic.....and read your like second or third comment

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I can't wait to be good enough at astrology to make people like WTF



I feel the same, gonna be busting out the poorvashadha nakshatras,


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Mystic Melody
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posted October 07, 2013 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Talk about whatever you want, but remember that no one ever changed an entrenched belief by bullying the other party. That only creates more resistance and an eventual permanent block towards the other side... or capitulation on the outside due to oppression, while still holding your own belief secretly in your heart.

Discussion is good if done with complete respect.

Keeping to topic is always a good idea but when a conversation organically brings a similar topic into the conversation, there is probably a reason.

Also...

WE ARE ALL TEACHERS
WE ARE ALL STUDENTS

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Ummmm you might wanna read the very beginning of the topic.....and read your like second or third comment

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic Melody:
Talk about whatever you want, but remember that no one ever changed an entrenched belief by bullying the other party. That only creates more resistance and an eventual permanent block towards the other side... or capitulation on the outside due to oppression, while still holding your own belief secretly in your heart.

Discussion is good if done with complete respect.

Keeping to topic is always a good idea but when a conversation organically brings a similar topic into the conversation, there is probably a reason.

Also...

WE ARE ALL TEACHERS
WE ARE ALL STUDENTS


I like this

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posted October 07, 2013 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because it is not seen as a science even though it is quite mathematical. If it seen as science, then it would be accepted. That is why religion is also be disposed of at the moment. Any thing that is existential is not real according to the masses and that is why "science rules" now.

Probably all goes back to the enlightenment and the promotion of free will, while astrology, certainly the traditional version states that there is pre-determination.

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posted October 07, 2013 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PlutoFish: If God is that which you said, and i could believe that, then i think it is an offence to god to have Christianity symbolizing him.

I'm glad. I like you, you're cute.

Yeah, it can be offensive - by human standards.

Any who, I don't think astrology can be quantified yet, and I believe that is because we don't have the tools to measure the energy at which astrology functions (and by that I mean group consciousness). Just like millennia ago we weren't be able to measure gravity, maybe in a few thousand years, we'll be able to measure consciousness.

Science has possibly found a particle which gives mass! There's lots we don't even know how to measure yet.

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Ummmm you might wanna read the very beginning of the topic.....and read your like second or third comment

Barbie, look, i apolagize if i offended you, im sorry, i didnt mean to, i like you

My 12th Scorpio stellium sort of does its thing..

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I'm glad. I like you, you're cute.

Yeah, it can be offensive - by human standards.

Any who, I don't think astrology can be quantified yet, and I believe that is because we don't have the tools to measure the energy at which astrology functions (and by that I mean group consciousness). Just like millennia ago we weren't be able to measure gravity, maybe in a few thousand years, we'll be able to measure consciousness.

Science has possibly found a particle which gives mass! There's lots we don't even know how to measure yet.


Thanks, you to

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Barbiegirl19
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posted October 07, 2013 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Barbie, look, i apolagize if i offended you, im sorry, i didnt mean to, i like you

My 12th Scorpio stellium sort of does its thing..


I'm sorry for flipping **** on you. That's just a very sacred subject for me. I wasn't at all trying to push my beliefs on you. I've gone through a lot in my life and really can't help it when it comes to that subject. I like you too lol

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PlutoFish
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posted October 07, 2013 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I'm sorry for flipping **** on you. That's just a very sacred subject for me. I wasn't at all trying to push my beliefs on you. I've gone through a lot in my life and really can't help it when it comes to that subject. I like you too lol

Yeah i'm sorry i should of realized that, accept my apology? My scorpio ends up pushing me to express my beliefs over other peoples .. (only because of the Sagi Moon/conj asc) i get a bit carried away

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posted October 07, 2013 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 07, 2013 09:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoFish:
I can believe in a god, but believing in a god is not Christianity, Christianity is turning it into control & power and just turns you into Dot from eastenders.
Christianity is actually the belief in Jesus Christ and his teachings....

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Christ's main message is "love one another as I have loved you".

Now what is the dispute in these words?

I see no problem with religion. Religion or more particularly faith, is a food for the soul. It is the politics of religion which is evil, as is all politics. I personally can see the separation of religion or faith and its politics - be it canons of a faith or people's personal dogmas and religious expressions. Unfortunately, a lot of others and a lot atheists always carry on about it and can't see the difference.

Sorry, end rant.

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posted October 07, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Yeah i'm sorry i should of realized that, accept my apology? My scorpio ends up pushing me to express my beliefs over other peoples .. (only because of the Sagi Moon/conj asc) i get a bit carried away

Hey I have some pretty strong Scorp too remember lol. I was over her plotting murders in my head burning a hole in the wall with my eyes I accept your apology sweetheart, accept mine!?

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posted October 07, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 23:
Christ's main message is "love one another as I have loved you".

Now what is the dispute in these words?

I see no problem with religion. Religion or more particularly faith, is a food for the soul. It is the politics of religion which is evil, as is all politics. I personally can see the separation of religion or faith and its politics - be it canons of a faith or people's personal dogmas and religious expressions. Unfortunately, a lot of others and a lot atheists always carry on about it and can't see the difference.

Sorry, end rant.


God bless you, I feel the same way.

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