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posted October 09, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
Because people want someone who will undrestand them. Someon who will like them knowing every inch of their soul, psyche. I agreei don't know why people drop name 'soulmate" so often? Soulmates are not only found in love relationships...

i agree with this! Actually I believe a soulmate could better fit with having a best friend... not that I seek a "perfect" best friend, it takes really much time to make one... but having 1 best friend is 10 times better than having a man... I just wan't to be myself and live my own life, and if a man fits in it would be great, but if he doesn't it's also ok

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posted October 09, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
I completely disagree. This hasn't been so in experience.
Saturn is what brings you closer together and makes your union stronger.
Though of course, it doesn't work that way for everybody, there are exceptions.
But between most long-lasting soulmates/karmic mates/etc, I have seen Saturn prominent in their snastry and they are still going strong till this day.

In my experience, if they're going to break up, it will be down to their saturn ties. Saturn is where they're restricted and tested.

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posted October 09, 2013 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm talking about saints



Oh, ok. Well, for me, I believe in them bc they actually existed irl and performed miracles. Well a lot of them can be historically proven to exist but not all.


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posted October 09, 2013 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
between - why does religion keep showing up in every threads in here?

I don't see what christianity, buddhism and all those religions have to do with astrology?

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posted October 09, 2013 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe they existed but you can't know if they really performed miracles, you haven't seen it.

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posted October 09, 2013 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's showing up in this thread bc people are talking about reincarnation, karma and soulmates.

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posted October 09, 2013 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Maybe they existed but you can't know if they really performed miracles, you haven't seen it.


But people have, sometimes a lot of people. One thing the church is reallllly strict about is canonizing saints.

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posted October 09, 2013 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am Christian but I don't believe in the church.

Make up your mind

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posted October 09, 2013 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]I am Christian but I don't believe in the church.

Make up your mind

I know, right!!

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posted October 09, 2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how I did that thing where I quoted you but it's not in quotes.

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posted October 09, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lily:
It's showing up in this thread bc people are talking about reincarnation, karma and soulmates.

but "soul mates" in astrology must be about some certain aspects in synastry that is good for you'r own natal chart...
And the chance is that it could be a lot of people...

I havn't made up my mind yet, maybe and maybe not there is a god, saints, soul mates...I havn't found any of them yet though!

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posted October 09, 2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I respect all the religions and religious people I have to say, I think it is cool (when it is not taking over your own free will)

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posted October 09, 2013 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe they existed but you can't know if they really performed miracles, you haven't seen it.

Originally posted by Lily:
But people have, sometimes a lot of people. One thing the church is reallllly strict about is canonizing saints.


That's only in the present day. The Catholic Church has plenty of saints that not only may or may not have performed miracles, it's questionable if they ever existed: Catherine, Agnes, etc.

But you choose to believe those saints are real, as others choose to believe in karma, past lives and soulmates. It's all belief. You can't prove any of it.

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posted October 09, 2013 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe in karma. I don't believe in past lives or soulmates.

I think saints can be proven more easily than those two, which there's never any proof, except feeling its true. Jmo.

I know they used to be less strict about it awhile ago.

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posted October 09, 2013 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Omfg I should try that too...she says she only believes in what she sees. I suppose she's blind as to how dangerous a belief like that is! See, there's a problem already. She only believes in what she sees but she doesn't see the pitfalls in her mindset.

Well, time to go get some breakfast.
A parting sentiment to Lily:

[QUOTE][b]just please spare us...


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I really hate ignorant people.
I remember I was seeing this person who was like.
*my faith*... BLAH BLAH BLAH. EVERYTHING IS BS BUT *my faith* BLAH.

Please vacate yourself from my vicinity....
I can't deal with small minded individuals.

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posted October 09, 2013 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I really hate ignorant people.
I remember I was seeing this person who was like.
JESUS... BLAH BLAH BLAH. EVERYTHING IS BS BUT JESUS BLAH BLAH.

Please vacate yourself from my presence....
I can't deal with small minded individuals.


But I'm your message board soulmate. I'm here to cause you anger and we are bound together so you can't get rid of me ever.

That's what you said....there's all kinds of soulmates even bad ones. I'm one of your soulmates. Don't you believe what you wrote?


Oh and it's ok for you to be annoyed with some person who believed in something that you don't, and also can't be proven, but I come along not believing in your stuff and you get mad.. Interesting.

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posted October 09, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Well you are super closed minded. You won't even entertain the idea. You just waltz in and call peoples' beliefs bullsh#t.

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I'm here to cause you anger and we are bound together so you can't get rid of me ever.

You don't even know what you're talking about. So you're unintelligent to boot.

What's your problem? Think you know? Ya ya okay. Nothing can be proven so you're just as delusion for buying into something as severely as the people you call down. What if soul lives exist? You may never know so I don't see why you must be so against it. You're not even using logic by this point.

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posted October 09, 2013 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
^Well you are super closed minded. You won't even entertain the idea. You just waltz in and call peoples' beliefs bullsh#t.

You don't even know what you're talking about. So you're unintelligent to boot.

What's your problem? Think you know? Ya ya okay. Nothing can be proven so you're just as delusion for buying into something as severely as the people you call down. What if soul lives exist? You may never know so I don't see why you must be so against it. You're not even using logic by this point.


Look at the title of this thread. It's about how soulmates are not true. This was the op:

"It's not like you could ever confirm it before you croak here. Besides, can't a "non-soulmate", happy relationship be as much satisfying? Ok, I'm a dreamer myself and I'm able to understand this notion, it's very romantic bla bla but in the end I don't give a damn, I just want it to work. And I even believe in reincarnation, you know?. Whether someone is your soulmate or not shouldn't bother you that much, you better use this energy for working on the relationship."

I have entertained the idea and I've rejected it. I just do not believe it. Why do you care? I called bs when you said abusers are soulmates bc that's insane. I am also entitled to my opinion.

When I used your logic on soulmates on you regarding me, you got mad, bc you don't believe your own stuff enough to back it up. You should've said, "yeah. You're right. We could be soulmates according to the definition I just gave you." But you didn't, bc me saying that made you see how ridiculous that notion of soulmates is, and people hate when their own delusions or illusions are shattered, so you attacked me.

Maybe you need to redefine what your definition of soulmates is. Maybe abusers or people who challenge you are not soulmates after all, bc if they are, I'm one of your soulmates.

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posted October 09, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Enemies can be soulmates too, as karma follows you through your lives and if you have karma with someone, no matter the relationship, it still binds you...

Soulmate synastry can = enemies too lmfao!


Just for reference, your post on soulmates possibly being enemies.

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posted October 09, 2013 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Omfg but that goes without saying. If you subscribe to karma, soul lives, reincarnation, then it's what happens. Your abuser can be your soulmate because soulmates are souls you encounter throughout your lives - they exist because you have karma together, lessons to learn, stuff like that!

Your soulmate can be your lover, your mother, your abuser, your pet, your teacher in high school, the person you didn't know who hit you and sent you to the hospital - and your soulmate probably was at one point or another.

In fact, you don't have only one soulmate. You can have many across the globe, but the ones you encounter depend on you.

...That is, if you believe in karma, soul lives, and reincarnation.



And another.


Wtf? You obviously believe this or so you thought...

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posted October 09, 2013 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ehem. I didn't say this phenomenon is not true, I just expressed my annoyance with obsessing over it.

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posted October 09, 2013 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do believe it, but you're missing the point, I think. You also tend to exaggerate what I say...stop that, it's unintelligent.

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It's about how soulmates are not true

The topic of the thread was asking why people always look for soulmate connections in synastry...the impression I got from I'm so cappy was that she was cautious regarding anything regarding soulmates. She was asking why people place so much significance on it, so you're wrong about that. -10 IQ points from Lily!

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I called bs when you said abusers are soulmates bc that's insane

It's not insane. Think about it! Using logic. There is no right and wrong, just cause and effect (what I believe).

Karma = cause and effect over great distances and time lengths. An abuser can be bound to you on a soul level because whatever actions went on between the two of you have caused ripples which inevitably come back.

I never said that abusers are soulmates. I said that they can be.

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Why do you care?

Because ur so gross and aggressive and closed minded...an air dominant person like me has to call out unfairness!

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posted October 09, 2013 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ehem. I didn't say this phenomenon is not true, I just expressed my annoyance with obsessing over it.


Well you weren't exactly sitting here gushing about them and how real they were. If you were, I would have just stayed out of the thread bc it wouldn't have been up for debate.

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posted October 09, 2013 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lily: Look at the title of this thread. It's about how soulmates are not true. This was the op:

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I'm so cappy: Ehem. I didn't say this phenomenon is not true, I just expressed my annoyance with obsessing over it.

BOOM, B#TCH! You don't know what you're talking about and you put words into people's mouths.

EDIT! Or if you don't do the above, you just have really low reading comprehension lmfao...or you just can't control your bias from making you see things. Either or.

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posted October 09, 2013 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I do believe it, but you're missing the point, I think. You also tend to exaggerate what I say...stop that, it's unintelligent.

Because ur so gross and aggressive and closed minded...an air dominant person like me has to call out unfairness!


Instead of stopping to call me unintelligent, why don't you explain it better? I didn't exaggerate what you said, I just used your "logic" on you.

I'm being unfair bc I use what you said about anyone being your soulmate if they cause you pain or grief? They were your words that I used against you. Let that sink in. It's not my fault your beliefs are so poorly constructed that when faced with your own words, you don't see them as being true.

I'm far from close minded but I can be aggressive when attacked in some way.

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