posted October 09, 2013 07:19 PM            

Also, you are unintelligent. Just look at your behaviour! You don't know what you're talking about yet argue about it any ways, you put words into peoples' mouths OR you read into things because you're uncontrollably biased, you have low reading comprehension...sounds like Lily is just an unintelligent person.

And not only that! Wait there's more!

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Lily: Well you weren't exactly sitting here gushing about them and how real they were. If you were, I would have just stayed out of the thread bc it wouldn't have been up for debate

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posted October 09, 2013 07:22 PM            

>>>>>The topic of the thread was asking why people always look for soulmate connections in synastry...the impression I got from I'm so cappy was that she was cautious regarding anything regarding soulmates. She was asking why people place so much significance on it, so you're wrong about that. -10 IQ points from Lily!
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It was expressing some doubt. Maybe your reading comprehension is off. It definitely was not saying they were resl. Their 1st post says "it's not like you can prove it." That's doubt and asking for different views in soulmates and whether they exist.

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I called bs when you said abusers are soulmates bc that's insane
It's not insane. Think about it! Using logic. There is no right and wrong, just cause and effect (what I believe).

Karma = cause and effect over great distances and time lengths. An abuser can be bound to you on a soul level because whatever actions went on between the two of you have caused ripples which inevitably come back.-->>>>>

It is insane. So someone who abuses someone is their soulmate? It's a way of letting the abuser off the hook bc its past life karma and a way of making the victim stay with them or just take it bc it's their soulmate. It's pretty sick.

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to explain how we're not soulmates according to your own words I've quoted. But I guess you can't explain that. So you've resorted to name calling me. Let me guess, your the abuser in your soulmate relationships...

And I'm not responding to any of your posts calling me names etc.

posted October 09, 2013 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I don't believe souls exist, but I do believe in karma.
I believe the Universe is made up of positive and negative energy and matter. (scientifically) So if you're meant to be positive or negative, and you go against the Universe's original plan for you, you get punished.
I feel some people are meant to cause destruction, while others are meant to create.
It's the Universe's way to balance things out. If you mess up the balance, prepare to be punished.

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posted October 09, 2013 07:28 PM            

You are right though! I don't believe them 100%. Maybe we are just lucky coincidence and when we die, that's it, we're mulch in the ground. Who knows? I don't know, that's for sure! If I did know, then I wouldn't have to bank my conviction on ideas and speculation of how things work.

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It's a way of letting the abuser off the hook bc its past life karma and a way of making the victim stay with them or just take it bc it's their soulmate. It's pretty sick.

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No one's letting anyone off the hook though! You're viewing it as an excuse for abuse when it isn't. Just because someone is your soulmate, doesn't mean you have to stay with them nor does it mean they have to take it. I agree, it would be sick, but that's not the case.

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I'm still waiting for you to explain how were not soulmates

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posted October 09, 2013 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Lily:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b]I don't believe souls exist, but I do believe in karma.
I believe the Universe is made up of positive and negative energy and matter. (scientifically) So if you're meant to be positive or negative, and you go against the Universe's original plan for you, you get punished.
I feel some people are meant to cause destruction, while others are meant to create.
It's the Universe's way to balance things out. If you mess up the balance, prepare to be punished.

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So are you saying that if someone's meant to be destructive-ish and they aren't then nothing will go their way and vice versa? [/B][/QUOTE]

posted October 09, 2013 07:30 PM            

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Lily: For some reason the whole post you wrote didn't quote right

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posted October 09, 2013 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
How about we just drop it lmao...I was never trying to prove you wrong, just state my beliefs and correct you where you exaggerated and warped them.

You are right though! I don't believe them 100%. Maybe we are just lucky coincidence and when we die, that's it, we're mulch in the ground. Who knows? I don't know, that's for sure! If I did know, then I wouldn't have to bank my conviction on ideas and speculation of how things work.

When did I say we were not soulmates? I'll gladly take it back! Though I am sure the only reply I said to that was that you didn't know what you were talking about. We could very well be soulmates. I love you. Who can say?

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I just have a really hard time with someone saying an abuser can be a soulmate. I mean, if they exist, I don't imagine them destroying someone. I feel like it's glorifying something, that if true, Should be much purer than an abusive relationship.

posted October 09, 2013 07:39 PM            

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Lily: I mean, if they exist, I don't imagine them destroying someone. I feel like it's glorifying something, that if true, Should be much purer than an abusive relationship.

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I see what you mean. How I view it is, if an abuser has a soul tie to you, it's not that their abuse is supposed to follow you, but that it is an obstacle to help your soul's growth and to help alleviate karma. For example, say you abuse someone in one life and the next life, you're the one being abused. It seems like an endless cycle but that's where the human choice and free will comes in. You can stop karma.

How do you feel about that?

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I'm so cappy: Now calm down people

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posted October 09, 2013 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
We are calm! Mods, Randall, I'm sorry for dragging this argument on for so long. Sorry Lily for calling you unintelligent and all those bad names, I wasn't taking you seriously and for that I apologise.

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I don't like the idea of people using supposed past life errors as an excuse for things they do to ppl in this life. I know you're not saying that you do, but it just seems very convenient for the abusers to be able to justify abuse in a past life event that can't be proven.

posted October 09, 2013 08:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yep, exactly

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Tell me more. Is this your own theory?

posted October 09, 2013 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Lily:
Tell me more. Is this your own theory?

It didn't quote right for you either. Something's wrong with the quoting feature.

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Yeah, I thought of it myself.
Basically the Universe has planed whether you're supposed to be negative energy (matter) or positive energy. (matter)
The positive people are supposed to to good things, be moral and help people with selflessness, if they do, they will be rewarded with something that they wanted and be liked by people, if they do the opposite of that and be bad, selfish, etc, they get punished by bad things happening for them and disliked by people.
Same applies with a negative people. If you're mean, selfish, everything is about you, etc, people will like you and good things will happen for you naturally. But again if you do the opposite and be good, moral, selfless, etc, you will be punished.

posted October 09, 2013 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I thought of it myself.
Basically the Universe has planed whether you're supposed to be negative energy (matter) or positive energy. (matter)
The positive people are supposed to to good things, be moral and help people with selflessness, if they do, they will be rewarded with something that they wanted and be liked by people, if they do the opposite of that and be bad, selfish, etc, they get punished by bad things happening for them and disliked by people.
Same applies with a negative people. If you're mean, selfish, everything is about you, etc, people will like you and good things will happen for you naturally. But again if you do the opposite and be good, moral, selfless, etc, you will be punished.

Sorry if this isn't a good explanation, I feel that I didn't explain it good enough, lol

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And to keep it astro, it fits with my chart. I have mars in the 7th so I'm supposed to be a pita in relationships and same with Pluto in the 5th. (They say you need to be your 7th house or they take over). And it all funnels to my sun in the 10th which is not a follower or passive person-server pattern. And saturn is on my AC so I'm supposed to be a hard ass b1tch too. Pluto trine sun and sextile mars and jupiter is someone who is the boss too. It's known as the king aspect actually, so I'm not meant to take orders or be passive, heh.

Furthermore, my Nn is in the 10th-11th which means I'm supposed to leave passivity (4th) and 5th ( focusing on love and being a partner) in the past and focus on leading -10th &11th.

Not to mention that I'm an air sign without water, so I'm supposed to be selfish and self serving while water people cater to me (in theory, not actual all water ppl, just what water represents).

And if that's not enough, all my planets disposition to jupiter which is the original boss, think Zeus who rules jupiter.

Yup. It works.

posted October 09, 2013 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Lily:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] Yeah, I thought of it myself.
Basically the Universe has planed whether you're supposed to be negative energy (matter) or positive energy. (matter)
The positive people are supposed to to good things, be moral and help people with selflessness, if they do, they will be rewarded with something that they wanted and be liked by people, if they do the opposite of that and be bad, selfish, etc, they get punished by bad things happening for them and disliked by people.
Same applies with a negative people. If you're mean, selfish, everything is about you, etc, people will like you and good things will happen for you naturally. But again if you do the opposite and be good, moral, selfless, etc, you will be punished.

Sorry if this isn't a good explanation, I feel that I didn't explain it good enough, lol

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And to keep it astro, it fits with my chart. I have mars in the 7th so I'm supposed to be a pita in relationships and same with Pluto in the 5th. (They say you need to be your 7th house or they take over). And it all funnels to my sun in the 10th which is not a follower or passive person-server pattern. And saturn is on my AC so I'm supposed to be a hard ass b1tch too. Pluto trine sun and sextile mars and jupiter is someone who is the boss too. It's known as the king aspect actually, so I'm not meant to take orders or be passive, heh.

Furthermore, my Nn is in the 10th-11th which means I'm supposed to leave passivity (4th) and 5th ( focusing on love and being a partner) in the past and focus on leading -10th &11th.

Not to mention that I'm an air sign without water, so I'm supposed to be selfish and self serving while water people cater to me (in theory, not actual all water ppl, just what water represents).

And if that's not enough, all my planets disposition to jupiter which is the original boss, think Zeus who rules jupiter.

Yup. It works.

Astro-wise, I'd say water and earth are supposed to be the good and serving people and air and fire are supposed to be more selfish to fit your theory. Maybe if air and fire are too giving, everything breaks down for them bc that goes against what their elements naturally represent. water and earth are supposed to be caring and good and serving, so let 'em. [/B][/QUOTE]

Nice aspects

My Jupiter doesn't make any aspects, lol.
It only makes a 10 degree orb conjunction with Pluto, that's all, lol.

Thanks for thinking my theory works
I was brought to this theory because I noticed whenever I was nice, selfless, etc, people walked all over me, which can make logical sense, but what didn't was that no one liked or appreciated that about me. But when I am mean, I am liked by people and good things just happen naturally. I feel that I'm supposed to be negative. It's not the life I want to to, but it's the life I have to live

I'm trying to fight it and hoping that I'm wrong about it because I don't want to be bad, I want to be good. If it is true, I can either be bad and be successful, or sacrifice my needs and be positive anyway then get punished for it.

posted October 10, 2013 08:43 PM            

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It sounds like you need different kinds of people around you. If you're around mean people, then when you're nice, they probably smell blood and view you as prey. They sound like sh1ts. You should be mean to them but find nice people to be close to so you don't have to sacrifice yourself. You're being manipulated and controlled by your friends.

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