posted July 01, 2022 02:56 PM              

Just did. Still have issues, particularly with some of the folks listed.

For example, Carlos Castenada is a known fraud now. We now know that he made up most of everything he wrote about. His work should be considered fiction. Maybe instructional fiction, but fiction nonetheless. The problem is, he passed it off as all real experience. That is when a person loses credibility.

Aleister Crowley? Really? How was he a powerful magician? He was an ego maniac hedonist that had some bare metaphysical understanding of things. But what really was his gifts and abilities other than doing a lot of drugs, having a lot of sex, etc?

Uri Geller? Also, seriously? Also a known fraud. Accounts of him are very mixed. Some sources say that he had some real abilities, but even some of these that I had read, indicated that he also partook in trickery. He seemed to be a bit like Crowely, an attention-media wh0re.

Anton LaVey. Sigh, another ego maniac who wanted/needed attention. Service to self focused. What exactly were his abilities other than being a spokesperson for Satanism?

According to the article, I have many of the signatures relating to being a powerful magician etc. Sounds flattering to my ego and all, but while I definitely have some developed intuitive abilities and have had many nonphysical oriented experiences, so far, I don't have any particularly unusually powerful or extreme abilities that I know of.

A lot of the other names/people I'm not that familiar with. But I just looked up Dion Fortune and some pics of her to get a sense of her. Good lord, what a dour, serious looking person! Talk about someone having a frown than needs to be turned upside down once in a while.

Real, living spirituality, attunement to Love/Oneness, and service to others, brings joy, peace, centeredness, and attunement to self. Cayce's guidance talks a lot about how Yeshua of the NT actually had quite a sense of humor and was often cracking jokes with people, and even on the way to Calvary!

That's the kind of energy I want to align with. Not this heavy, ego enmeshed Plutonian-Saturnian, "I'm so serious (because I'm so full of myself) all the time" stuff.

posted July 01, 2022 03:18 PM              

Before I ever came upon this info in the Cayce work, my very intuitive mother told me a little while after I had gotten into astrology, that during my birth, it was some time after my body was birthed, that she saw a bright light descend and enter into my body. She intuitively knew that this was my Soul/nonphysical consciousness.

Indeed, a bit later of a chart fits me better in a holistic sense, as far as transits/progressions to life events, looks, etc.

So when I came upon this info in the Cayce work, I was very open minded to it. I reviewed all the various charts I had looked at and done over the years, and I notice that occasionally, there were some charts that just did not fit the person as to looks, personality, life events or patterns, etc.

I have researched/looked at many different noted psychic sources over the years, and truly, the Cayce work is in a league of its own as to degree and amount of verification and sheer vastness. Over an almost 40 year period, he gave over 14, 300 individual psychic readings for hundreds (or thousands?) of people--mostly medical, but also on hundreds of other subjects including various metaphysics, ancient history, technology, probable future, etc, etc. All this from an ignorant, deep south, farm boy, 8th grade drop out who mostly only read entertainment novels and the Bible.

If all these readings were compiled and put into a book format, I've heard/read that said book would be around 50, 000 pages long.

There is literally nothing like it in teh world. The only thing that comes relatively close to it, is Steiner's work and then Robert Monroe's group of volunteers who he called his "Explorers" who explored various states of consciousness and communicated with various guidance. But neither of these have the sheer amount of hard core verification that the Cayce work contains.

Here is an article that Kannon McAfree (former member of this forum) wrote on the issue of birth times in relation to accurate charts in reference to the Cayce work (which contains some direct, cited exercpts from this work on the issue):
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/astrology/incarnation-process/

Again, not only does Cayce's work talk about this issue/subject, but my mom's* and my experience supports same.

* My Mom btw, was a Cap Sun and Merc, with late Scorp Asc with early Sag Venus Rising, with Scorp Saturn in the 12th, her faster moving ruler, Mars, was in Pisces. Her Moon was in Cancer along with Jupiter and Uranus. Sun Merc conjunction opposed Jupiter and Uranus, and Merc square Neptune.

posted July 01, 2022 08:40 PM              

Here is the actual quote/citation from the article you linked:

"Astrologer Robert Hand defines well the terrain associated with this house which '…pertains to all activities pursued not for their own sake… but for the sake of something else. This something may be another purpose one chooses, external necessity one does not consciously choose, or circumstances that limit one's freedom of choice…It also indicates relationships formed out of necessity, duty, or responsibility rather than out of self-expression or pleasure.'

The sixth house is right next to the seventh of partners, open enemies and projected parts of self. Hand notes, 'It represents the part of the unconscious mind that absorbs energies and influences coming down into the inner self from conscious experience. It is the house where experience is incorporated into the psyche. This is undoubtedly one of the bases for this being a house of illness.' Hand suggests that the pathology of the house can be founded either in mental or physical resistance to energies coming in from the outside environment, or 'in reaction to activities that have become divorced from supporting self and self-expression.'" (4)

In other words, the author of the article is reading and extrapolating too much from these comments and applying it to other things that Hand isn't even addressing. What Hand is addressing here is a combo of the practical service/duty aspect and the perceptual (and physical) "digestive/assimilative" nature of the 6th House and Virgo type archetypes. Which is indeed important to the subject of health-illness. Or to sum it up far more concisely than Hand did, "You become and are what you think and eat". THAT, and practical service is the primary nature of the 6th. The more overtly "magical" stuff lies in its opposite, the 12th. Just as Pisces is a far more mystical, psychic, spiritual, etc Sign and symbol than its opposite, Virgo. Virgo is Pisces "grounder" into the material/physical. Similar with the 6th and 12th. And again, I point out, I have a direct connection between these--my 12th ruler is conjunct the ruler of my 6th.

I am far from being close minded, and in fact, started off way too open minded and downright naive and overly trusting. That whole, angular Pisces South Node, and Mercury -1* trine Jupiter Rising thang. Over the years, I have (had to) started to apply the Virgo NN in the 1st and have learned to discern and discriminate the bull crap from the truth. My BS sensor is very finely honed, both from a highly intuitive place (Angular Pisces SN, very strong Capricorn, very strong Jupiter, strong Neptune, strong Uranus, moderate Aquarius, moderate 12th, etc) and a holistically logical and analytical place (Cap Merc widely conjunct the chart ruler Sun in Cap, 4 points in Virgo including the ruler of that Cap Sun and Merc, etc).

And I'm not here to be liked or be "popular". I could care less about any of that. I am here to retrieve. The only way to retrieve is to share/output perceptions/data/info that is more accurate than the limiting ones that humans currently hold.

You can personally call me whatever or say what you like about me. I won't return the name calling and personal stuff. But, your sources certainly do lack in some areas.

All so called "magic" btw, is wrapped up at its core, in the interconnectedness of all consciousness aka the Oneness. There is no real or true magic without that fundamental reality and understanding. "Psychic" then also relates to the above, because "psychic" is perceptually tapping into that Oneness/connectedness. Hence, "magic" and "psychic" go hand in hand (which you briefly alluded to as well).

The difference is that psychic can be both an active/influencing thing and a passive/receptive/observing/perceiving thing. Magic tends to be more tipped to the active and influencing, but all good magic needs both the Yang, and the Yin, to function most efficiently.

posted July 01, 2022 10:01 PM              

Pisces is a Water Sign ruled by Jupiter and Neptune. Two Planets that have long been associated with all that is spiritual, mystical, psychical, imaginative, etc.

Virgo is an Earth Sign ruled by Mercury. Mercury is a symbol of the rational, logical, left brain intellectual "mind". It is firmly grounded in terra firma. There is nothing mystical or the like about it. Ever meet predominate Mercurians? Like people that have it conjunct the Asc or the like? If they don't have other things going on to counter balance it, these are some of the least imaginative people around. They are very left brained and literal.

And NO, Virgo is not ruled nor co-ruled by Chiron. Chiron is not a major or primary archetype. It can't "rule" a sign. All the Planetary rulers of the Signs, all have a correspondence to the main/major 7 Chakras/Centers in the body and to major colors vibrationally wise. Chiron is like a sub note and a blended color vibrationally wise.

If the Sun is the White Light, the major Planets of our Solar system are that White Light being refracted into the main colors.

There is a consistent, holistic logic to the whole system, that if you try to throw other variables in, like "Chiron ruling a Sign" etc, throws it all out of whack. True truth is EVER logical and consistent. That is because we live in a "cause and effect" reality. There are rules and Laws built in.

posted July 01, 2022 10:25 PM              

I see "ego maniac" written all over it. Here are some salient points. Mars in the 1st, rising and closest Planet to the Asc opposed the Moon and square Jupiter. Sun in the super self focused Sign of Aries and square Cap Saturn which is the highest Planet in the chart. Aries Sun also closely square Cancer Pluto. Uranus, the modern chart ruler, also in Aries and very closely square Saturn, the traditional chart ruler. Both rulers of the chart (Saturn/Uranus) in hard aspect to Pluto. Mercury, NN, and Venus in Taurus.

All together, this paints a picture of an extremely selfish and ego centered/focused individual. A heavy, slow vibratory, selfish, destructive, and immature Soul.

But a powerful "magician"? How can a person, so out of touch with Love, the Oneness of the Whole, and their inner Source nature, be a truly powerful, gifted magician?