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anonymidarkness
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posted March 06, 2014 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo and Aries IME. I don’t mind Leo’s arrogance, I do have Leo MC. Jupiter aspecting luminaries and angles may also make one come off as arrogant. I have it in 1st house, widely conjunct ASC. I’ve been called arrogant and egoistic, well I don’t give a crap about what others think about me.

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posted March 06, 2014 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience it has been Leo and Aries suns or those with a lot of placements in those signs . I'm pretty sure my grandad has an Aries rising. He is a Gemini sun so he loves talk about himself.
But I do know one person who is a Virgo sun- no idea about anything else though. She loves showing off, in a really obvious way- its actually quite funny once you get past being irritated with it!
I also notice that they fib a bit/ exaggerate stuff.

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posted March 06, 2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom !!!

Leo rising
Aries Sun
Sagittarius moon

LEL

People say/think I'm arrogant but I'm far from it

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Moon in Libra
Rising sign Libra

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posted March 06, 2014 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo moons are not arrogant. We are supremely good at what we are good at.... which could be nothing. But that nothing could mean a lot to us. And we tend to tell ppl that we are good at that something/nothing.
Im blaming this post on my tonic dtink ; )
Actually mars in leo are really arrogant.

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posted March 06, 2014 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AqMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius
Leo
Sagittarius
sometimes Libra

They usually get most of the complaints for being arrogant,personal opinion i've dealt with a few Aquarius who were just so full of they're own KaKa

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posted March 06, 2014 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqmoon u r funny lol 'Full of their own KAKA'! Hahaha

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posted March 06, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrientalApples     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience: in order of arrogance

Aries
Leo
Sag
Cappy

If you say Leo is not arrogant, you are fooling yourself. LOL. I am surrounded by Leos and myself have Mars in Leo.

My best friend is a Leo with Venus in Leo, wowzers. She is god's gift to men and reality is a few mutual guy pals of ours think she's beautiful but cannot get around her arrogance.

My bf is a Virgo with Leo Rising/Venus in Leo with lost of planets in the 5th H.

My best guy friends: Sag Sun/Aries Moon with lots of planets in the 5H--and boy is he above everyone and will tell you so AND my other guy bff: Sag Sun/Leo Rising/Aries Moon--he is a know it all and is very dismissive towards people because they don't know what he knows!

My dad is an Aries Sun/Mercury in Aries-I cannot stand his arrogance its over the top arrogance. He like to hear himself talk.

My mom is Sag in Sun, Mercury, Mars/Virgo moon--and no one is on her level--she's a woman of virtue, one man woman, married to one guy fro 36 years, adheres to traditional cultural codes of conduct and she would call my friends and I ***** or say are you whoring around...when in fact we were not even sexually active (high school days) but she would say it in this joking way knowing fully well she meant it. She too is very dismissive, knows what she knows and if you are likely to disagree will shut down on you and leave you high and dry.

My bro Cappy Sun/Mercury in Capricorn--and boy no one can do things like he can. He will tell you how things are done even knowing fully well you already know what he knows. He will reiterate that to no end. He knows everything too.

And lastly a few exes of mine: Aries Sun/Mars in Leo--gods gift to women; Aries Sun/Mars in Cappy--no woman is good enough for him and serial dates; and Virgo Sun/Aries Rising with lot of planets in 7th H--he was a fighter literally and no one was as tough as him and so as such had a lot of enemies.

These are just my observations and my humble opinions.

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posted March 06, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Leo would be arrogant. Sun in Leo isn't.

Know a Leo stellium (except Mars). Very friendly. Never heard of her being described as arrogant.

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posted March 06, 2014 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun: Aqua
Moon:Aries
Merc: Capricorn in 3H

Mars/Saturn/Pluto: Scorpio on Asc

You either love me or hate me. There's no gray area with ppl towards me, and vice versa! I do come off arrogant with the "intellectual superiority" complex. Aquarius sun being "I Know" thus I've been over zealous to know everything or be viewed as the smartest in class back in my school days lol But it was never to come off as being better than others, in a cocky way. I wanted to be respected for my intellect and frankly I loved learning!

Aries moon, I can come off very brash, but with my moon squaring mercury in Cap I have to try VERY hard to finesse what I allow to slip through my lips. I have a Capricorn stellium in 3H so communication is thought out over and over again prior to conveying myself. But again, harpooning others with my "intellectual airs" is received one way or another. Throw in my Scorpio mars on Asc and you have much more intensity. Sometimes saying very little, rubs ppl very wrong. Notice the squares going on up there. Not to mention Pluto conj Mars/Saturn on Asc. This is what I have to live with


Lastly, I have a Leo companion who is FAR from being arrogant. The only Leo I've met that doesn't gel with that character trait at all. His sun aspects his 12H so he's quite shy, behind the scenes. Likes recognition for the practical "little things" he does [Virgo Asc] and has that oh so cool Aqua moon.

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posted March 06, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrientalApples     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:

My sister is a Leo, too, but she copies me a lot. It actually bugs the hell out of me. I hate it when people copy me. And it's not even like she's copying me subtly, she does it in a very obvious way. I think it's because of her insecure placements, though.


My bff Leo copies me all the time--same makeup, perfumes, etc. I'm like get your own style. But I refrain. I should take it as a compliment but I cannot! ha. My sister copies me too but she's cute about it, Gem Sun/Gem Moon...but yes, I don't like copycats and this is coming form a Gem Sun! ha!

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My brother is A Leo Sun, Mercury and Ascendant all within a couple degrees of each other as well as the 88 Dragon year which someone else mentioned on here and he is the most arrogant mofo I have ever met. Also copies me with everything including subjects I am into, style, etc. So annoying, then acts like he was the one who did it first; he's like when did you get that? I'm like, hello, I've had this and been into these things since I was 15 you were just too arrogant and self-involved to notice.

Besides that I have come into contact with A LOT of Leo suns and other Leo dominated people and I find they are either extremely arrogant, boastful and self-important with a giant superiority complex, or they have the opposite, a giant Inferiority complex that comes across as a superiority complex but although they desire the praise and attention that most Leos seek they feel they do not actually deserve it when they get it, nor will actively seek it.
"Being critical and sitting in judgement are signs of deep feelings of insecurity and inferiority."
"the individual hides his insecurity by appearing bombastic and arrogant. It is a cover-up for his lack of confidence in himself."

Capricorn men are the most arrogant, self-righteous, selfish, materialistic a$$holes I have ever met. The women are completely different.

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Originally posted by visions:

I never saw someone as arrogant as me. I am so arrogant...i am even offended when someone dare to talk to me...then i am thinking a lot about what's wrong with this people and even myself to attract such people even those with a high status, smart etc...because i don't care i know i am smarter, i am better etc...i even come to an age where i say that it's no worth to proving my magnificence to this stupid world anymore.But sometimes I have to prove my considerable magnitude when a decorated man come to me trying to pontificate me because he felt he was in front of a demi-god so i speak i open waters in 2 parts with words and science(20 years of reading books and many high degrees gave me omniscience) then i am back again in scorn mode.

Pus i have the capricorn streak wth saturn on ascendant that make me a master of denying others for their insignifiance, it gives so much joy, but it leads to solitude also so you have to assume that part of the game but otherwise you take all benefits from arrogance: being an eagle among those rats...



I am completely blown away that there are humans this arrogant on this planet. I truly did not know it was possible to think such things about oneself.
Might want to take heed of this quote:
" Do not fancy you can stand aside from the bad man or the foolish man. They are yourself, though in a less degree than your friend or your master. But if you allow the idea of separateness from any evil thing or person to grow up within you, by so doing you create Karma, which will bind you to that thing or person till your soul recognizes that it cannot be isolated. Remember that the sin and shame of the world are your sin and shame; for you are a part of it; your Karma is inextricably interwoven with the great Karma. And before you can attain knowledge you must have passed through all places, foul and clean alike. Therefore, remember that the soiled garment you shrink from touching may have been yours yesterday, may be yours tomorrow. And if you turn with horror from it, when it is flung upon your shoulders, it will cling the more closely to you. The self-righteous man makes for himself a bed of mire. Abstain because it is right to abstain — not that yourself shall be kept clean. "

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posted March 06, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
forgot to say Cap rising can be very arrogant

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Originally posted by theunknown:

Also all fixed suns are strong because they don't change. So fixed suns come off as my way or the high way. It differs from arrogance but very similar energy though.


Also I disagree with this. Fixed signs do change, the thing is they will only change if they want to and if they see how it benefits them. Another will never convince a fixed sign to change but they can over time change themselves. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense that Scorpio is the sign of transformation and self-mastery... How can you transform and master the self if you don't change...?

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posted March 06, 2014 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"noun
offensive display of superiority or self-importance"

AQUARIUS!!! The most arrogant and self-righteous people I've ever met. Buuttt, I like them overall, they are very nice and sweet.

Second place goes to Scorpio, Capricorn and Aries. They can divide it

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posted March 06, 2014 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian-venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:

Earth signs are ignorant (Capricorn leading).


^(All "may or may not" be rather flawed ways of thinking).
It's good to be ignorant to something that makes zero sense because it's then a waste of time. (Capricorn - "Time is money!"). Lol.



LMAO. I am a Cappy (stellium) with lots of fire in my chart, and some (very little) water...
And I am for sure not ignorant. I am without a doubt a very cultured person. I am also very curious to know/learn things and I do have an intuition in reading people and situations and understanding hidden reasons for a certain behaviour/situation.
I would find that affirmation of yours quite offensive...if I weren't smiling right now... hoping you were jocking.


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Fixed signs are stubborn (Taurus leading).
Cardinal signs are one-track minded (Capricorn leading).


Yes, but once again you make that sound like this is a flaw. It isn't. :-)
If I have a goal I do concentrate on it and do my best to obtain it. And yes, in the meanwhile I do live my life.


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posted March 06, 2014 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian-venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
Mars in Leo would be arrogant. Sun in Leo isn't.


yes, unfortunately it is true. I do have Mars in Leo (5th house) and I am more proud/fierce than arrogant. But I become arrogant very quickly if I am right about something and I see that someone denies it. Or if I see people being arrogant with someone nice, I do becaome an arrogant b***ch and I cut slices with my words..LOL.

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posted March 06, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian-venus:

LMAO. I am a Cappy (stellium) with lots of fire in my chart, and some (very little) water...
And I am for sure not ignorant. I am without a doubt a very cultured person. I am also very curious to know/learn things and I do have an intuition in reading people and situations and understanding hidden reasons for a certain behaviour/situation.
I would find that affirmation of yours quite offensive...if I weren't smiling right now... hoping you were jocking.

Yes, but once again you make that sound like this is a flaw. It isn't. :-)
If I have a goal I do concentrate on it and do my best to obtain it. And yes, in the meanwhile I do live my life.


I even gave situations when being ignorant, stubborn and one-track minded is good. So what's the fuss about? LOL.
No, I wasn't jocking.

And just because you're a Capricorn stellium, doesn't mean you are going to be ignorant for sure. I am just talking about the sign itself, not particular placements.
Ignorant is being skeptical about something, then not bothering to look into it before dismissing it, and we all now Capricorn can be a big skeptic.

Ignorant can also be used for someone who is un-knowledgeable about something and assumes one thing without even bothering to learn all of the information to make a valid judgement.

You then said that you have lots of fire in your chart... well, there you go!

Why would you even get offended if being ignorant supposedly didn't apply to you?

My post wasn't set out to offend people, which is why even I added situations when it was good to be like that. My bad if it did offend people

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posted March 06, 2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Also I disagree with this. Fixed signs do change, the thing is they will only change if they want to and if they see how it benefits them. Another will never convince a fixed sign to change but they can over time change themselves. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense that Scorpio is the sign of transformation and self-mastery... How can you transform and master the self if you don't change...?



That's what I mean. Fixed signs do not adapt to others easily because they believe more in their own ways. If they change, it takes a lot. Aside from scorpio, aquarius is known for "change". But not on others' terms obviously. This side makes them come off as being arrogant

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posted March 06, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries, Leo, Capricorn. Regulus.

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2012 AD ^ The Age of Aquarius.

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posted March 07, 2014 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian-venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I even gave situations when being ignorant, stubborn and one-track minded is good. So what's the fuss about? LOL.
No, I wasn't jocking.

And just because you're a Capricorn stellium, doesn't mean you are going to be ignorant for sure. I am just talking about the sign itself, not particular placements.
Ignorant is being skeptical about something, then not bothering to look into it before dismissing it, and we all now Capricorn can be a big skeptic.

Ignorant can also be used for someone who is un-knowledgeable about something and assumes one thing without even bothering to learn all of the information to make a valid judgement.

You then said that you have lots of fire in your chart... well, there you go!

Why would you even get offended if being ignorant supposedly didn't apply to you?

My post wasn't set out to offend people, which is why even I added situations when it was good to be like that. My bad if it did offend people



Ok, than it is my bad! Because ignorant in Italian means one who has no culture or education at all. ne who has never read at all anything, nor he wishes to.
I really didn't know it meant SKEPTICAL. Yes than you have a point. I am skeptical ...sometimes. LOL!!!


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posted March 07, 2014 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just want to say actually, I knew a guy who was a Capricorn sun, Cancer moon and Sagittarius venus- this was a different arrogance- it was that kind of pretentious arrogance, being all woe is me, I'm so brilliant but misunderstood etc etc.

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That's what I mean. Fixed signs do not adapt to others easily because they believe more in their own ways. If they change, it takes a lot. Aside from scorpio, aquarius is known for "change". But not on others' terms obviously. This side makes them come off as being arrogant


Ok well the previous statement made was "they don't change" not they can but it takes a lot.

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posted March 07, 2014 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian-venus:

Ok, than it is my bad! Because ignorant in Italian means one who has no culture or education at all. ne who has never read at all anything, nor he wishes to.
I really didn't know it meant SKEPTICAL. Yes than you have a point. I am skeptical ...sometimes. LOL!!!



Well it doesn't mean skeptical, just if someone was skeptical about something, and doesn't even bother to look into it before judging it as false or fake, than that would be considered ignorant, because they didn't take the time to learn about it before their judgement.

Capricorn can be extremely skeptical about things, and so they have a tendency to not even bother to look into it, and then dismiss it as fake or false right on the spot because they think it's pointless when they're so sure it's false.

That would be ignorant if a person did that to someone

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I have Pluto square Leo Ascendant. I think that makes me feel like I'm so great so others must look up to me and want me as their ruler. I'm also a big individualist, though, so I feel like people are copying me, too, but that might have to do with my Uranus.

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