posted March 08, 2016 09:14 PM            

He's not like that all the time, but when he is I have a hard time being around him.

I'm not sure what causes it, or if it's a combination of factors. He does have Mars and ASC in Sagittarius, and Jupiter in his 3rd.

ETA: I should also mention that he is bipolar, and some of those traits were better when he was in therapy and taking medication. Or maybe just toned down.

posted March 08, 2016 09:21 PM            

Granted, confident people can make others feel inferior unintentionally (like how some get upset over all the good things people share on FB which makes them question their own life accomplishments, and overlook what the person on FB is hiding), and thus be seen as arrogant. The difference is in this case it was not the intent of the confident person to make the other person feel inferior. It's the arrogant ones who TRY to make others feel inferior so they can feel better by comparison (and the criticism of others having less power over them).

posted March 08, 2016 09:23 PM              

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
.....On an astrology forum that isnt really important to my real life at all I'm not going to spend extended time reading long posts from strangers.

It's just not that jmportant to me, and I have things I have to read for school.

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Then why bother saying any of that?

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And on THAT note... I have a couple chapters to start. Midterms are coming. Peace.

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posted March 08, 2016 09:27 PM            

Leo women may like attention and be firm with there belief systems.

But I have never encountered one that belied they were better or superior to anyone.

If anything they' think I'm the arrogant one, lol must be my Capricorn rising.

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Leo men are a little different, they can come off as bit arrogant because they like to hold themselves to a high level of admiration.

But if you can show that your good at something or you present yourself well, I find it goes away and they will start to acknowledge you, treat you as an equal of the same high standard.

It all about interpretation until the person actually demonstrates that they believe they are better or superior then thats when I would consider them arrogant.

posted March 08, 2016 09:43 PM              

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Just to be clear, I don't see arrogance as "too much self-confidence," but rather too little than then overcompensates and tries to escape from that feeling. I suppose one could call it narcissism-lite, with narcissism also being a defense mechanism about deeply felt inferiority rather than a sincere belief in their own superiority.

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posted March 08, 2016 10:02 PM            

I know some people easily feel attacked here. It happens enough that sometimes I just ignore it as I don't have the patience to explain myself over and over again, especially to the same people who almost invariably say they didn't take it that seriously (unless I don't explain myself in which case they do). Sometimes I even ask innocent questions and people act as if I'm interrogating them. When one about exploded at me for asking, I dropped it thinking it was a bad day for that person but it was like months later the person was still upset that I asked and figured I was still judging her and didn't like her when I'd forgotten all about it (and never meant the question in a bad way in the first place).

I don't see that as my fault, especially when plenty of others don't have a problem with how I interact and don't make a habit of misunderstanding me.

If it were my intent, which it's not, then it would arrogance. But when people just feel inferior on their own and perceive anything said in the most negative way possible ("hearing" a "tone" that was never intended) then that's not me, that's their own mind. I no more do it on purpose than I turn men on on purpose who believe because they're turned on that I made them turned on and thus a tease when I don't react well to their sexual harassment (that is, they think I turned them on just so I could humiliate them by pushing them away when I never meant for them to be turned on in the first place, but it's somehow my fault on how I made them feel, and believe that I did it deliberately, and that's about how I see those who believe I make them feel inferior on purpose).

Some also come to LL for emotional support, and that's fine, but it's not why I'm here, nor am I obligated to give them what they seek. But just because I'm not giving everyone a hug and "validating" them at every opportunity doesn't mean I despise or look down on them as some of them imagine I do (believing in astrology, I realize some people need that more than I do and that's okay). It's not only draining for me to do so, but actually feels condescending to me to be constantly propping others up...I realize that others see it in the opposite way, that it's arrogant to NOT prop each other up as if we don't need it and are above everyone else, but I just can't shake the feeling that I'm actually putting people down by constantly propping them up (I tolerate people who do that to me if I believe they mean well, but I can feel uncomfortable and even offended when people treat me as if I were fragile in need of constant reassurance and validation, that is I treat them as I want to be treated--keep in mind that the tone imagined is not always the tone I intend). And that's a common trait for where I was raised.

So to not be arrogant or condescending in their eyes, I'd have to become arrogant/condescending in mine.

posted March 08, 2016 10:44 PM            

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I know I can seem arrogant at times, but it's not intentional. Sometimes I'm in a no-win sitch. Like if I explain my thoughts then I'm "showing off" but if I don't then the same person will say I'm somehow lording it over others implying that they should already know, when the common factor is I just somehow make that person feel inferior without my meaning to, and no matter what I do I will come off as arrogant because of how they feel rather than my actually trying to tear them down (but they feel torn down anyway and assume I did it on purpose). If I actually look down on someone then I'm not likely to interact with them anymore than I have to--but I hate to say that because some people feel like I'm ignoring them on purpose when I'm not, and just because I don't reply doesn't mean I'm snubbing the said person, sometimes I just don't have anything significant (from my POV) to add (or I intend to come back but forget, or I just miss it completely).

I know some people easily feel attacked here. It happens enough that sometimes I just ignore it as I don't have the patience to explain myself over and over again, especially to the same people who almost invariably say they didn't take it that seriously (unless I don't explain myself in which case they do). Sometimes I even ask innocent questions and people act as if I'm interrogating them. When one about exploded at me for asking, I dropped it thinking it was a bad day for that person but it was like months later the person was still upset that I asked and figured I was still judging her and didn't like her when I'd forgotten all about it (and never meant the question in a bad way in the first place). I don't see that as my fault, especially when plenty of others don't have a problem with how I interact and don't make a habit of misunderstanding me.

If it were my intent, which it's not, then it would arrogance. But when people just feel inferior on their own and perceive anything said in the most negative way possible ("hearing" a "tone" that was never intended) then that's not me, that's their own mind. I no more do it on purpose than I turn men on on purpose who believe because they're turned on that I made them turned on and thus a tease when I don't react well to their sexual harassment (that is, they think I turned them on just so I could humiliate them by pushing them away when I never meant for them to be turned on in the first place, but it's somehow my fault on how I made them feel, and believe that I did it deliberately, and that's about how I see those who believe I make them feel inferior on purpose).

Some also come to LL for emotional support, and that's fine, but it's not why I'm here, nor am I obligated to give them what they seek. But just because I'm not giving everyone a hug and "validating" them at every opportunity doesn't mean I despise or look down on them as some of them imagine I do (believing in astrology, I realize some people need that more than I do and that's okay). It's not only draining for me to do so, but actually feels condescending to me to be constantly propping others up...I realize that others see it in the opposite way, that it's arrogant to NOT prop each other up as if we don't need it and are above everyone else, but I just can't shake the feeling that I'm actually putting people down by constantly propping them up (I tolerate people who do that to me if I believe they mean well, but I can feel uncomfortable and even offended when people treat me as if I were fragile in need of constant reassurance and validation, that is I treat them as I want to be treated--keep in mind that the tone imagined is not always the tone I intend). And that's a common trait for where I was raised.

So to not be arrogant or condescending in their eyes, I'd have to become arrogant/condescending in mine.

And I actually think some people LIKE when others need to be propped up because then they can make them dependent on their praise and gain a measure of control over them. They pretend to be sweet, but it's just to make them into a minion (or even victim) rather than to actually bolster each other in a fair way. And there are some real horror stories on support boards where vampires, villains, and con-artists prey on those hurting by playing the sweetie offering comfort.

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To be honest I've never seen you as arrogant. If anything, I'd assume you to be more blunt than arrogant, because I don't necessarily get this vibe as if you're trying to dominate the situation. When it comes to text, putting feelings into words can difficult (expect if you're a Gemini), and it's so easy for people to misinterpret things you would say. It's as if Neptune decides to control our brains while Uranus becomes the computer screen lol.

posted March 09, 2016 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
My sister is an absolute ***** and she's very arrogant. She thinks I copy her & is very conceited.

As much as I love them, I'm attributing arrogant and vain people to Leo energy.
[b]What sign or aspect do you think is most arrogant?

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