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PixieJane
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posted November 26, 2015 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
Abuse or deceit is not unconditional love. It's just abuse and deceit. If you decide to stay in such a situation while applying conditions to a person who does not respect you, it's like spinning wheels in mud. What is the point and why are you wasting your time? Love yourself to know that you deserve better.

IOW, put conditions on it. You've just put conditions on it and saying it's not worthwhile if it doesn't meet these conditions.

And btw, going by the examples you gave of "conditional love," I'd say a lot that wasn't love at all, let alone conditional, though many want to make it a condition (even if unspoken ones) of all sorts of relationships, including business ones, and by that I don't mean it's for love, just mere acceptance of your presence (or paycheck or position or other benefit).

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Desiring Shadows
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posted November 26, 2015 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Unconditional love is only healthy for a god.

For mere humans it's an unhealthy state that does more harm than good in most cases.


To an extent .. Just like everything else.
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I have fallen into the terribly horrid trapping of loving someone unconditional to the point he treated me like **** . I still love him. I always will nothing will change that but he's a different person so whateeeevvveeerrr

Going to use my godlike loving power on someone more deserving who will make my life better

I have Venus square Neptune so yes love for me is spiritual and heavenly at times

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Aquarian Moon
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posted November 26, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
IOW, put conditions on it. You've just put conditions on it and saying it's not worthwhile if it doesn't meet these conditions.

And btw, going by the examples you gave of "conditional love," I'd say a lot that wasn't love at all, let alone conditional, though many want to make it a condition (even if unspoken ones) of all sorts of relationships, including business ones, and by that I don't mean it's for love, just mere acceptance of your presence (or paycheck or position or other benefit).


You're right. It's NOT love. That's my point. And yet so many relationships between parent and child and between two partners have this underlying condition that holds the relationship in tact as long as person B doesn't shake the boat and change. You are right. That's exactly what love is NOT which is why I put them as examples as conditional love.

Also, a business relationship is not a personal (family/partner) relationship.

Unconditional love between two healthy, mature, and mentally stable people is possible. It's just not that easy to achieve because most of us were raise on conditional love.

On a totally separate matter, if you are being abused you should protect yourself and leave. Allowing abuse if not a sign of unconditional love. Allowing abuse to oneself or to other people is a sign of self-hatred, little self-esteem, and toxic co-dependence.

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DopGang
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posted November 26, 2015 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep!
The love I've experienced has often enough been neptunian and it didn't know reality. Therefore, unconditional love was easy.
It was always short lived for me (the unconditional part of it). By that I mean, less than a year. Again, not love but just the unconditional part. You might say that it's normal honeymoon phase stuff. Sort of, but it's still much different with Neptune.
You know what?
I don't think I'd want it for much longer than that.

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Julz87
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posted November 26, 2015 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Julz87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Love Unconditionally is relative.

My father shows unconditional love by reminding me how free I am-can be and to never be tied down by anything restricting, by reminding me of everything I've accomplished and that by being successful in my career I AM FREE never to depend on anyone...He is a promiscuous Aquarius with Capricorn Moon

My mother shows unconditional love by physical affection, by hosting the hell out of you, by nurturing you, by reminding me that should I ever need her to fight my battles she will with out hesitation. She's a Gemini with Scorpio Moon.

We all have our own perceptions - own way as to what is to love unconditionally. Hell we all show love differently.

Chiron Opposite Neptune
Jupiter Opposite Venus
Jupiter Trine Neptune
Capricorn Moon

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curiouspisces89
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posted November 26, 2015 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouspisces89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love my family unconditionally, but if you are asking for a partner no I havent...YET!

(Venus in Pisces)

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