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SaturnineMoth
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posted March 29, 2014 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure I misread what the OP was trying to get at (it happens fairly often lately I'm finding). T_T

I thought they were trying to discuss the attributes of or between people who are the type to "string along" their lovers/love interest in contrast with those who are clear with their intentions... who enjoys what dynamic, who employs what tactics, and who is least or most straight forward in their methods overall, and why (perhaps) they are like that.
I guess...
I thought there was more depth to this topic.

>.<;

It seems to just be about discussing dating habits/games in general, and not the least bit about intention/direction.

*frustrating*

My shallow answer of the night - the more Air the more flighty, the more Fire the more aggressive, the more fixed the more stubborn, the more mutable the more lazy... More Pluto the more obsessive, the more Jupiter the more loose... the more Saturn, the more restrictive and grim... lol Lazy Lions or Courtesan Moons don't have to chase, and the typical female of any sign wants to be chased and not have to chase, duh - well, unless he's perfection with a pulse.

yeah, I'll go with that... it agrees with the crowd more. :/

*dontmindmeventing*

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SaturnineMoth
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posted March 29, 2014 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
The kind of "chasing/courting" I'm talking about is simply showing the other person that you have what it takes, and it's up to them to decide whether or not they want what you have to offer. If they say no, and their reason is: you don't have xyz that I want, you can either go and find that xyz for them, or consider someone else.

What you described is more like a kind of mind games that set people up to fail, like they don't seriously consider you as an option, but only want to play around and watch you run in circle.


muddy, we're in the same boat, dear...

we're seeing a different topic than the one actually being discussed. >.<;

*handsyouanoar*

lol

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aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2014 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
The kind of "chasing/courting" I'm talking about is simply showing the other person that you have what it takes, and it's up to them to decide whether or not they want what you have to offer. If they say no, and their reason is: you don't have xyz that I want, you can either go and find that xyz for them, or consider someone else.

What you described is more like a kind of mind games that set people up to fail, like they don't seriously consider you as an option, but only want to play around and watch you run in circle.


i don't see how what you are saying is any different than what I am talking about. They are both wastes of time.

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12muddy
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posted March 29, 2014 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturnine Moth: it's nice to see you back. You haven't been active for a while.

Aquaguy:

If you don't see the difference then I guess I'll just leave it at that.

You'll find one relationship that suits your taste. What odette said about cap placement is true at least for me as well. Up front and to the point, although some consider it abrasive. I've had men and women telling me that if a guy doesn't have to chase me he won't treasure me.

Although I'm not sure if you like cap energy lmao

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aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2014 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Saturnine Moth: it's nice to see you back. You haven't been active for a while.

Aquaguy:

If you don't see the difference then I guess I'll just leave it at that.

You'll find one relationship that suits your taste. What odette said about cap placement is true at least for me as well. Up front and to the point, although some consider it abrasive. I've had men and women telling me that if a guy doesn't have to chase me he won't treasure me.

Although I'm not sure if you like cap energy lmao


I think my attitude in regards to dating/romance is more related to my aqua placements. The way I see it the woman i'm pursuing is no better than me, so why should I have to act like I'm below her or grovel for her affection? If she is willing to date me and finds me attractive shouldn't she be equally invested in me and be making an effort to be with me too? Why should I have to do everything and prove myself?

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12muddy
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posted March 29, 2014 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if you don't prove it, how would they know that you have what they seek ?

If they think you don't have what it takes, then you have the option to stop.

I did my share of proving, and I don't see it as groveling for affection.

I see that you think about it as some sort of power play. Meh. If that's what you think I'll leave it at that, coz I believe that this is getting too long lol I'm not gonna go further.

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MsPrism
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posted March 29, 2014 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you did a great job of explaining it 12muddy!

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Odette
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posted March 29, 2014 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I think my attitude in regards to dating/romance is more related to my aqua placements. The way I see it the woman i'm pursuing is no better than me, so why should I have to act like I'm below her or grovel for her affection? If she is willing to date me and finds me attractive shouldn't she be equally invested in me and be making an effort to be with me too? Why should I have to do everything and prove myself?

Exactly!

And it happens the other way around with guys who either think they are the centre of the universe and women should fall at their feet --- or guys who are gullible/immature enough to read online bs about how they should play hard to get or "treat 'em mean" to "keep 'em keen".

It is most definitely not at all worth it - to get involved romantically with any person who is not equally interested and/or who doesn't understand the concept of give&take.

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Odette
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posted March 29, 2014 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a post I made on an earlier thread re: chasing.. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222491.html

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This is a better way to describe my feelings here...

I only like relationships that start out like a dance:

Not ones that start out like a chase:


This chasing business feels completely out of sink with my normal sexual/romantic ritual...
I do have a Mars/Neptune conj though - and we definitely enjoy dancing more than going for a jog... so... to each their own.


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LovelyKitty
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posted March 29, 2014 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by moonstruck87:
I saw a little "meme" or whatever those things are called on FB saying
Ladies if a man wants you, he will chase you. If you have to ask where the relationship goes or who you are to him then the answer is NOWHERE

I feel like this is true in some cases of course and not true in others...
For example, my brother is rather shy and his mars in cancer, although a cardinal placement makes him tip toe around his feelings and he kinda side steps his way into letting his female interest know he likes her

So, in your experience what placements are the hunters and which placements are not?


The hunter who persue any of his/her dream or desire shoud be...
- Any first House Mars or Mars conj. Ac/Mc . Doesn't matter if it Rx /falls/detriment , when it conjunct the AC/MC , one will not give up easily.
- Strong Mars character: Leo /Aries/Scorpio /Taurus/capricorn
- any mars that aspect to Uranus,sun,pluto . I think these 3 planets make mars more upheaval. I saw one person , he has Rx Cancer Mars trine Uranus , square Pluto in his natal chart , he is very successful in his carrier . A lot of woman chasing him buy sadly he want to stay single.


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Moonfish
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posted March 29, 2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
The hunter who persue any of his/her dream or desire shoud be...
- Any first House Mars or Mars conj. Ac/Mc . Doesn't matter if it Rx /falls/detriment , when it conjunct the AC/MC , one will not give up easily.
- Strong Mars character: Leo /Aries/Scorpio /Taurus/capricorn
- any mars that aspect to Uranus,sun,pluto . I think these 3 planets make mars more upheaval. I saw one person , he has Rx Cancer Mars trine Uranus , square Pluto in his natal chart , he is very successful in his carrier . A lot of woman chasing him buy sadly he want to stay single.



I know a guy with the same-exact placements and he also wants to be single. It doesn't help that he has venus conjunct pluto, drives the girls crazy.

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posted March 29, 2014 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
The hunter who persue any of his/her dream or desire shoud be...
- Any first House Mars or Mars conj. Ac/Mc . Doesn't matter if it Rx /falls/detriment , when it conjunct the AC/MC , one will not give up easily.
- Strong Mars character: Leo /Aries/Scorpio /Taurus/capricorn
- any mars that aspect to Uranus,sun,pluto . I think these 3 planets make mars more upheaval. I saw one person , he has Rx Cancer Mars trine Uranus , square Pluto in his natal chart , he is very successful in his carrier . A lot of woman chasing him buy sadly he want to stay single.


I match all of your criteria there, and I still struggle to pursue from time to time!

-Any first House Mars or Mars conj. Ac/Mc . Doesn't matter if it Rx /falls/detriment , when it conjunct the AC/MC , one will not give up easily. Mars conjunct MC
- Strong Mars character: Leo /Aries/Scorpio /Taurus/capricorn Mars in Leo
- any mars that aspect to Uranus,sun,pluto . I think these 3 planets make mars more upheaval. Mars squares Sun and Pluto by 4 and 6 degrees Respectively.

It must be Moon related too!
I always like to feel that if I like a Girl, I always need some sort of feedback (not just VERBAL) for me to know she likes me and i'll puruse, that's the only reason tbh.

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theunknown
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posted March 29, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P!nk has her mars in Cancer. She proposed to her husband ...

Anyway, I think in relationships it depends on who wants the other person more... But guys are socialized to ask girls out so if they don't, they don't want the girl enough or the girl plays so hard to get that the guy doesn't think he has a shot

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posted March 29, 2014 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CatMote:
i definitely prefer to chase, even though it goes against the nature of my pisces mars and venus. i guess its the aries sun.
but its gotta be a little of both. if im putting myself out there, i have to feel the confirmation for me to continue. i once was with a sag mars girl and i remember our first kiss together was her saying "kiss me dammit!" i liked that surprisingly. i was really layin on the fire but its so hard for a man to tell if its OK this day and age to make any sort of physical move on
a woman. her being upfront and honest and blunt was great. sometimes they can give you all the signs that they are ready, but then when the time comes they look at you like you have 3 heads for trying something.

hahaha from another sag mars - I like that girl's style!

ok, so apologies for the rant: I am currently chasing a taurus venus and mars in cancer. I have a pisces venus and mars in sag. It's so frustrating how many mixed signals we have. My version of hitting on him, chatting him up (awkwardly lol) until there's a silence and then proceeding to dance in front of him hoping for a little body action or even a hug from behind. His potential way of hitting on me....showing up behind me and moving to stand behind me while I'm dancing but never ever taking the initiation to talk - EVER....going to pee outside when I'm there for a smoke. It's like we're forever at a stalemate, my version of being forward is trying to engage him to doing something, and he never actually commits to doing something, he just puts himself in my way.

Now a few months ago, I hit on him and he said no because he was dating someone, I haven't seen him out with her for a few months now but he has yet to say anything about her to me. I don't want to jump him and hit on him while he's seeing her (for the second time) but it's feels like too much of a pressured question to ask him directly if he's seeing anyone because I just want to go slowly with him and see him more (if he is indeed single), that makes it seem like I'm going "Hey are you single now...? How about now...?" LOL

Any suggestions how to break this mars in cancer/mars in sag stalemate or how to better react to his actions?

Note: He's a Taurus with his moon in Aries
I'm an Aquarius with my moon in Virgo. HALP!!

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aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2014 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
This is a post I made on an earlier thread re: chasing.. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222491.html

[QUOTE]This is a better way to describe my feelings here...

I only like relationships that start out like a dance:

Not ones that start out like a chase:


This chasing business feels completely out of sink with my normal sexual/romantic ritual...
I do have a Mars/Neptune conj though - and we definitely enjoy dancing more than going for a jog... so... to each their own.


[/QUOTE]
Dancing sounds nice

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Leo-Cancer98
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posted April 14, 2022 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
The only guy I know who admits himself that he won't chase is a Leo sun (cusp), Leo moon, Aqua Mars, Cancer Venus.

Haha, Cancer Venus at it's finest.

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posted April 14, 2022 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
My ex had his Mars in Cancer too. He was very straight forward and assertive. I think it depends on your Venus sign too because his was in Aries. He had his Mars in the 8th house.

What was his Mercury Sign? How was his Aries Venus aspected?

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aquaguy91
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posted April 26, 2022 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house placements could make a guy more shy maybe.

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