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maira
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posted May 21, 2014 05:38 PM
  
I think it all comes down to free will, even reincarnation. And yes, I believe that if a soul has graduated, so to speak and has had the last lifetime here, but chooses to reincarnate (for whatever reason, to help humankind, to watch over a dear one, etc), he is free to do so. Free will may also explain the amount of *time* between reincarnations, a soul that is tired may choose to spend more time in the after life, or a shy soul may want more time to gain courage. There's a book that discusses these things in more detail, "The Journey of the Souls", check it out when you have the time.IP: Logged |
AlexDern
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posted May 21, 2014 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by maira:
I think it all comes down to free will, even reincarnation. And yes, I believe that if a soul has graduated, so to speak and has had the last lifetime here, but chooses to reincarnate (for whatever reason, to help humankind, to watch over a dear one, etc), he is free to do so. Free will may also explain the amount of *time* between reincarnations, a soul that is tired may choose to spend more time in the after life, or a shy soul may want more time to gain courage. There's a book that discusses these things in more detail, "The Journey of the Souls", check it out when you have the time.
Well said! (CLAPS)
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maira
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posted May 21, 2014 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
How do you know if a soul has heavy karma? Does the chart have a lot of squares in it?
Some say that retrograde planets represent lessons not learned in the previous life, especially Saturn.
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Canadiangirl
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posted May 21, 2014 05:43 PM
maira: Some say that retrograde planets represent lessons not learned in the previous life, especially Saturn.--Hm,I don't have retrograde planets but I have squares to my mercury, venus and saturn.
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pocaloca
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posted May 21, 2014 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by AlexDern:
That's what I was trying to say.
 Alex, I somehow assume that my SOUL was/is a bit wilder , more unsettled and therefor older then Ennelines..just guessing though , gut feeling but i might be totally wrong as well. I have a grand cross btw Retro VENUS, R. PLUTO, R, JUPI and MOON tight angle... IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted May 21, 2014 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by maira:
I think it all comes down to free will, even reincarnation. And yes, I believe that if a soul has graduated, so to speak and has had the last lifetime here, but chooses to reincarnate (for whatever reason, to help humankind, to watch over a dear one, etc), he is free to do so. Free will may also explain the amount of *time* between reincarnations, a soul that is tired may choose to spend more time in the after life, or a shy soul may want more time to gain courage. There's a book that discusses these things in more detail, "The Journey of the Souls", check it out when you have the time.
Yes, it sounds very plausible maira.
Some can choose def. but some also must in order to pay debts or find balance i guess.
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pocaloca
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posted May 21, 2014 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by maira:
Some say that retrograde planets represent lessons not learned in the previous life, especially Saturn.
I was just talking about that to ALEX. Maira..and my GRAND CROSS ..I have 5 planets in retro. SATURN is not in the list though. IP: Logged |
AlexDern
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posted May 21, 2014 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
Alex, I somehow assume that my SOUL was/is a bit wilder , more unsettled and therefor older then Ennelines..just guessing though , gut feeling but i might be totally wrong as well. I have a grand cross btw Retro VENUS, R. PLUTO, R, JUPI and MOON tight angle...
You are BOTH older souls in general, but as for comparing you both I would not dare Suffice it to say that you are both two beautiful souls traversing the cosmos and have perhaps intertwined in the past and now do so again briefly.
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maira
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posted May 21, 2014 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
Yes, it sounds very plausible maira.
Some can choose def. but some also must in order to pay debts or find balance i guess.
Yes, I was referring to a soul that is "debt free" The other ones "must", but they also have free will as to when and where, that's what I believe anyway. IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted May 21, 2014 05:53 PM
ahahaha,
yes..I was just assuming cos of my GRAND CROSS AND RETRO STUFF..and also you saw me as in a way "influential" in two of the past life examples you gave. IP: Logged |
maira
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posted May 21, 2014 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
I was just talking about that to ALEX. Maira..and my GRAND CROSS ..I have 5 planets in retro. SATURN is not in the list though.
The planets are the answer to what energy was misdirected in the last life (Jupiter - spirituality, Pluto - power, etc). I tend to look at retrograde planets first among the first things when I'm interpreting a chart, they give you a feel of the person's energy. IP: Logged |
AlexDern
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posted May 21, 2014 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
ahahaha,
yes..I was just assuming cos of my GRAND CROSS AND RETRO STUFF..and also you saw me as in a way "influential" in two of the past life examples you gave.
That you were and we'd guess that to reach such heights one would have been enmeshed in many previous lives. Truly though, you are both queens. IP: Logged |
seekinglight
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posted May 21, 2014 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by maira:
The planets are the answer to what energy was misdirected in the last life (Jupiter - spirituality, Pluto - power, etc). I tend to look at retrograde planets first among the first things when I'm interpreting a chart, they give you a feel of the person's energy.
What about stationary planets? IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted May 21, 2014 05:59 PM
I dont believe that the soul with debt can choose though where and what and has that option free..I mean which soul would choose to be born as abandoned child, poor, homeless, in a sick body etc....naaay! Theres def. a limit to free will cosmos took care about maira. IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl
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posted May 21, 2014 06:00 PM
I know someone who has neptune, saturn, jupiter and pluto in retrograde.:PIP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted May 21, 2014 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
I live in Europe, Germany right now but my Birth place is in North Africa..go figure out ( I am mixed EURO-ARAB bazooka ahaha) x
WOW Amazing! love it! IP: Logged |
maira
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posted May 21, 2014 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by seekinglight:
What about stationary planets?
Long story short: it depends  "There are two types of stationary planets. The first one occurs when a planet that has been direct is about to turn retrograde. Movement in the affairs of life ruled by this planet slows down in preparation for an introspective phase of experience. The second one occurs when a planet that has been retrograde is about to go direct. The person, who has been in an introspective phase regarding the affairs ruled by this planet, is preparing to move out into new experience. A stationary planet focuses its energy in one spot and in one way, and therefore, produces a deep impression on the person." Quoted from here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009925.html IP: Logged |
AlexDern
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posted May 21, 2014 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
WOW Amazing! love it!
amelia28 for some reason I see a woman who is saving a large group of young children from a burning village of people after losing a lover mid-life and finding another but who never quite was the same as the first. Does this make sense to you? The woman is moving restlessly saving children left and right.. I only mention lovers because I sense the woman in deep meditation while she dodges flames and channels her lost love while also loving her current love...a very strong woman.. She has found an outlet for love lost and love grown over time and has become a heroine . IP: Logged |
maira
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posted May 21, 2014 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
I dont believe that the soul with debt can choose though where and what and has that option free..I mean which soul would choose to be born as abandoned child, poor, homeless, in a sick body etc....naaay! Theres def. a limit to free will cosmos took care about maira.
Yes, it's my mistake, I meant to write "limited free will". In the book I told you about there was a chapter dedicated to this, how the "elders" gently help the soul pick one of the lives that were offered for reincarnation. IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted May 21, 2014 06:11 PM
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maira
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posted May 21, 2014 06:23 PM
The chart does not strike me as really heavy, just a little bit
The sun has good aspects, except for that conjunction with Saturn, Jupiter although retro is dignified by house. There is balance in your chart.
Now the bad There are issues about self worth, and also love, romantic and motherly, but mostly romantic, Pluto retro and Venus retro… you were cruel to people who loved you maybe and didn’t feel their love; planets in the 12th serve, you are sometimes disconnected from your feelings, at other times feel too much, in this lifetime, the mother was emotionally or physically absent and so you feel an orphan at times. You know that Lilith is important in your chart, she is sabotaging your relationships, you have to make peace with her; look for interps for this position of Lilith and indulge her as much as you can or else you’ll be always pestered with power struggles in relationships.And that’s that, hope it helps
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maira
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posted May 21, 2014 06:25 PM
...and a link: http://sanjaperic.com/2005/04/28/lilith-in-scorpio/ IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted May 21, 2014 06:36 PM
Thank you! and UNQUOTING is DONE as you wished Well I know that my SCORP LILITH is pain in the neck but she is also sexy as hell ahaha..trust me  IP: Logged |
maira
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posted May 21, 2014 06:38 PM
Also, how was Uranus conjunct moon for you? Were you "molto loca"? I know someone who committed himself in a mental institution when transit Uranus hit his moon at 8 degrees Aries.IP: Logged |
maira
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posted May 21, 2014 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
Thank you! and UNQUOTING is DONE as you wished Well I know that my SCORP LILITH is pain in the neck but she is also sexy as hell ahaha..trust me
You're welcome! I know, I have it too
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