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DeepFreeze
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posted July 31, 2014 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
That's awesome!! Listen carefully and learn because it's such a relief to finally realize we are only expected to take care of ourselves and our own thoughts. We don't need to concern ourselves with what everyone else thinks, even what they think of us....we don't need to worry about it, its their issue not ours! Whew, what a load off! Lol

Not my biggest issue really.
I just cling onto everything. Every wrong ever done to me gets filed away and never forgotten.
Damn you Virgo.

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posted July 31, 2014 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starrynight:
You know I actually remember a case in which there was a tight square in synastry:
his ruler of 8th Saturn square her ruler of 5th Mars
Not sure about other stuff, but you know how they usually define Saturn square Mars in synastry as very little sex and restricting others' actions? They didn't have that, an occasional battle of wills yes, but lots of sex which sometimes bordered on forced in its intensity. He seemed to enjoy overpowering her. I thought that was Saturn square Mars showing through as a control issue. He even called it 'taming a wild lioness'. (She's a Leo sun conj Leo Rising, btw) And he didn't want her to be weak and passive either, hence the lioness reference, but it's like his Saturn needed to assert dominance.

Exactly, starry. That's how I'm seeing it, too.

My partner and I have an exact MARS conjunct PLUTO; but as MARS is his 5R, and it's in my 2H, it's taken the form of sexual dominance with a controlling air that isn't forceful as it is unflappable. It's the composure I've found most enticing. I have a very active BML and PLUTO, however. Anyone making attempts to control me has ended poorly. Conversely, if there is a genuine respect and deep appreciation, if the controlling air is accompanied by a desire for sexual dominance -- well, it appears I respond quite differently.

What's interesting is, his SATURN falling in my 8H clearly directs its energy into our sexual dynamics; it's loosely opposite my SUN, which likely strikes that teetering balancing act.

It's really all about how the natal's expressing the energy, and how the synastry alters it. His MOON is heavily aspected, too -- opposite my SUN-PLUTO-BML. Since it's his 8R, in his 5H, and overlaying into my 2H -- I'm thinking, like our MARS conjunct PLUTO, it's expressing itself in our sexual dynamics -- instead of violence and discord.

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posted July 31, 2014 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Part of the Venus conjunct nn lesson that she teaches me. She teaches me a great way to love. I'm the student. (and the nn)
I really feel that aspect.

I can really relate! His VENUS/KARMA is on my NNODE. I have felt as if he's teaching me how to BE loved, adored, and appreciated as I deserve.

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KarkaQueen
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posted July 31, 2014 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its in the Fifth house (the moon/neptune dude). sexy right?

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I'm so cappy
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posted July 31, 2014 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a man has Moon conjunct BML and Mars conjunct Priapus is he dominant or submissive?

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posted July 31, 2014 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Not my biggest issue really.
I just cling onto everything. Every wrong ever done to me gets filed away and never forgotten.
Damn you Virgo.

Lol, that pesky lil virgo never forgets does it!
I forgive but I never forget and even though I may be perfectly fine with someone that's hurt me.... I'm watching closely to see if I really can open back up to them. Virgo moon, ugh!

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posted July 31, 2014 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
I am venus in scorpio, and 8th house ruler (moon) in 8th house, pluto sextile sun, and i adore doing this

Those are very nice aspects. You said your moon is in leo as well.

I have venus/mars in leo opposite BML in aquarius and this opposition squares asteroid chariklo which is the wife of chiron forming a tsquare:

"The wife of Chiron probably functioned as a sacred prostitute in the matriarchal temples."

Chariklo: In Greek myth, Chariklo was the wife of Chiron. She offers relief from the dictates of patriarchy, through the safeguarding of sacred sexuality. Chariklo can represent balanced, active feminine expression, however she also serves in protection of social boundaries including those that are transgender or sexual in nature. The polarization of woman into virgin or wh*re that characterizes many cultures, can be left behind for mature, self-fulfilled, maternal yet sexually active womanhood. As expressed by astrologer Philip Sedgwick, Chariklo is all about learning to maintain two important personal boundaries; one that would promote quality relations with other people and another that protects personal, sacred space, namely the enclosure of your own spirituality and individuality. http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebDocs/Texts/Asteroids.html

My venus/mars trine neptune and sextile pluto.

My moon rules my 8th as well and is also part of a tsquare. We both have sag rising.

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In fact psyche opposes chariklo exact so if we add asteroid psyche I have a grand cross involving venus/mars opposite BML squaring on one side Chariklo and on the other Psyche.


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posted July 31, 2014 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Not my biggest issue really.
I just cling onto everything. Every wrong ever done to me gets filed away and never forgotten.
Damn you Virgo.

That is not a virgo thing...that is more a pluto/scorpio thing.

Husband has mercury in scorpio, mars in scorpio, taurus rising, karma in scorpio at 0 degrees, Eros in scorpio.

He holds grudges and doesn't forget anything. That is more a fixed element thing; not letting go and having a good emotional memory.

Perhaps his moon in cancer trining his mercury in scorpio.

He feels forgiving is bad..hahaha.

and my Saturn in scorpio is all about I want to forgive and let go; I feel when you don't forgive you are hurting yourself the most.

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I'm so cappy
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posted July 31, 2014 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgiving is for suckers

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amelia28
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posted July 31, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Forgiving is for suckers


LOL

Well I do it for me...If you hold a grudge that person has power over you and you are the one that walks around with this anger daily as a result, slowly poisoning yourself more and more....

Not that I am model of lightness specially right now with transit saturn conjuncting Hygeia in scorpio in my 12th and is like saturn is forcing me to acknowledge and realize I have a darker ugly side...

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posted July 31, 2014 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright, I could forgive if I tried hard enough. But forgetting and keeping the person in my life is another story

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MagnumJoe
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posted July 31, 2014 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Those are very nice aspects. You said your moon is in leo as well.

I have venus/mars in leo opposite BML in aquarius and this opposition squares asteroid chariklo which is the wife of chiron forming a tsquare:

"The wife of Chiron probably functioned as a sacred prostitute in the matriarchal temples."

Chariklo: In Greek myth, Chariklo was the wife of Chiron. She offers relief from the dictates of patriarchy, through the safeguarding of sacred sexuality. Chariklo can represent balanced, active feminine expression, however she also serves in protection of social boundaries including those that are transgender or sexual in nature. The polarization of woman into virgin or wh*re that characterizes many cultures, can be left behind for mature, self-fulfilled, maternal yet sexually active womanhood. As expressed by astrologer Philip Sedgwick, Chariklo is all about learning to maintain two important personal boundaries; one that would promote quality relations with other people and another that protects personal, sacred space, namely the enclosure of your own spirituality and individuality. http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebDocs/Texts/Asteroids.html

My venus/mars trine neptune and sextile pluto.

My moon rules my 8th as well and is also part of a tsquare. We both have sag rising.

ADD:
In fact psyche opposes chariklo exact so if we add asteroid psyche I have a grand cross involving venus/mars opposite BML squaring on one side Chariklo and on the other Psyche.


Interesting. Forgot to mention that BML trine my pluto, and sextile my sun too

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amelia28
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posted July 31, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MagnumJoe, Have you been with someone that forms a grand trine with your pluto and BML??

I read that BML is like a female version of pluto.

That should be interesting....or better someone who has a planet/asteroid that conjuncts your BML and that also has a planet that forms a grand trine with your pluto and BML.

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posted July 31, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
That is not a virgo thing...that is more a pluto/scorpio thing.

Husband has mercury in scorpio, mars in scorpio, taurus rising, karma in scorpio at 0 degrees, Eros in scorpio.

He holds grudges and doesn't forget anything. That is more a fixed element thing; not letting go and having a good emotional memory.

Perhaps his moon in cancer trining his mercury in scorpio.

He feels forgiving is bad..hahaha.

and my Saturn in scorpio is all about I want to forgive and let go; I feel when you don't forgive you are hurting yourself the most.


Whew.. So much crap in my chart doing funky things.
I have a bunch of progressed Scorpio also and it does seem to have gotten worse since my asc entered.
Yeah cappy... Forgiving is for suckas.

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posted July 31, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Alright, I could forgive if I tried hard enough. But forgetting and keeping the person in my life is another story



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posted July 31, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
MagnumJoe, Have you been with someone that forms a grand trine with your pluto and BML??

I read that BML is like a female version of pluto.

That should be interesting....or better someone who has a planet/asteroid that conjuncts your BML and that also has a planet that forms a grand trine with your pluto and BML.


Never thought of this before

But in general, a planet forming such a grand trine, would contact my squaring venus-moon midpoint. I think i should look for an early degree cancer sun or moon. Good suggestion You are a good match maker

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posted July 31, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
That is not a virgo thing...that is more a pluto/scorpio thing.

Scorpio Sun conj Pluto: nope no grudges held. You wrong me, I destroy you and then I forgive and forget. I might even say hello next time we meet.

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posted July 31, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So much better

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posted July 31, 2014 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
Never thought of this before

But in general, a planet forming such a grand trine, would contact my squaring venus-moon midpoint. I think i should look for an early degree cancer sun or moon. Good suggestion You are a good match maker



LOL hahaha

You know I WOULD LOVEEEEEE to do that for a living...like run a dating site based on in depth astrology and be one of the members in the staff that analyze members charts and match people up!


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posted July 31, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reminds me of someone I dated.

Aqua sun
Scorpio moon
Cap Venus and Mars

He really liked to dominate and enjoyed it more when I would refuse. So he would always initiate in situations he knew I would refuse. (Public places mostly) and he would like seduce me into giving in lol. He was kind of a masochist too. He was a very..... -large- guy and enjoyed it when it caused me pain... And uh, that's all I'm gonna get into lol.

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posted July 31, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:

LOL hahaha

You know I WOULD LOVEEEEEE to do that for a living...like run a dating site based on in depth astrology and be one of the members in the staff that analyze members charts and match people up!


When i started reading about synastry years ago, like around 10 years, i did a group of "counseling by stars" for couples I don't remember on which social network was it though...

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posted July 31, 2014 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
When i started reading about synastry years ago, like around 10 years, i did a group of "counseling by stars" for couples I don't remember on which social network was it though...

That is soo cool!!!!!! hahaha

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posted July 31, 2014 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 31, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
That is soo cool!!!!!! hahaha

It was But after reading more and more, i decided i am totally unqualified because astrology is tooo deep Until now i think i am unqualified

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