posted November 05, 2014 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Aries moon - 3rd house.

What makes me feel secure: Interest, interest, interest, burning wants/desires, curiosity.... These things make me feel like I can do everything I want to do, give me motivation, make me feel invincible.

What makes me feel insecure: well a lack of interest, or a "fear" that I may lose interest. When I don't like something I find it terribly difficult to get going. Most of my interest often fades quickly, sometimes I'm in the middle of something and it strikes. Then I don't want to move forward anymore due the lack of interest and motivation, but am unable to retreat due to a bunch of complications.

There is very few things that can make me feel better than suddenly having some sort of fancy/interest/inspiration, moving in quickly and getting it done/snatching it/making it...etc... in a very short time.

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Aries moon in 11th: I need to be interested in something. It squares my venus and uranus in cap so thankfully I can pull myself back and say: "Get your act together!"

I need friends and social contact. I am always in some sort of group but i need to be alone too.

posted November 05, 2014 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
8H Pisces moon

This ties in with my screen name. I only feel secure because I trust life, trust that there is a Higher Purpose...feel that it's possible for us to merge (8H/Scorpio) with God (Pisces/death.)

What makes me feel insecure? Lots of things, but on point: confronting antagonistic spirits. Poltergeists. This only happened to me for the first time a few months ago and it rattled me to the core.

I don't know how to put it in context, I'm just glad it went away. But still, it symbolizes a crack in my faith: if I'm vulnerable to demons or whatever, that makes the whole grand scheme of things more sinister than I've wanted to accept.

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I guess you would avoid text or belief systems that refuted the existence of an omnipotent presence right?

I had a very weird experience when i was going though my "Christian" phase as a toddler.

It is still so disturbing and weird to describe but to put it simply, I was being poked by what looked like a "demon" with a pitch fork- whilst i slept.

Now what i can't reconcile is whether this image was something projected? Did I see this image of a demon in a book,got disturbed by its horrific features before I slept?Thereby projecting it in my sleep?

If I had no such contact with the book, where did this image of this demon stem from and why did it feel "real"?

I think a large part of me absorbed the atmosphere and surroundings of my upbringing.

My maternal grandmother was a devote Christian and perhaps her beliefs were imprinted on me somehow? But how? And when? I can't say.

Like you,for the longest time I was afraid of demons possessing my body. Even the thought of sleeping without a blanket terrified me- as if a blanket would secure me from beings of another dimension

But now,my thoughts have changed from that. I am not indifferent to such things, but i try to keep as logical a mind as possible.

Despite having Mercury in Cap,Sun-Ju-Nep in Sagittarius and 8th can have me jumping to conclusions and imagining some sort of "divine" intervention in life situations.

When someone explains a "miraculous" occurrence, I used to not question that divinity was present.

posted November 05, 2014 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
5th House Aries Moon as part of a Sun-Moon-Pluto T-Square that lands in H8… what makes me feel secure are opportunities to handle crises/emergency situations, probably because Aries is about action and 8th house is about crisis. I'm at my best when I have a job to do. Some sort of mental auto-pilot takes over and I know exactly what needs to be done, and in which order. Neither will I feel fatigue, hunger, or thirst, but just keep going until it is over, and break down later. As in this one case two years ago, when I had just returned from an intercontinental trip that took three days of traveling time due to delays and missed flights, and involved spending two nights barely sleeping at two different airports. The moment I got home, I received a call from my single, pregnant friend that labor had set in and she wanted me at her bedside during delivery ASAP. I grabbed my as-yet unpacked hand luggage, went there straight away, and spent the next 24 hours holding her hand and reminding her to breathe until they rushed her off to perform an emergency c-section (they discovered, finally, after neglecting to even look at that issue, that her pelvis wouldn't allow for normal delivery…!). It was good I had been there for her, because the hospital staff were very mean to her during labor, and she would have been completely defenseless in her bad state all alone. Situations like that are what I was made for. What makes me insecure, by contrast, is having to stand by and watch a situation go bad, but being either powerless, or not allowed, to do anything about it. Like seeing another person self-destruct with drugs etc. That is a terrible feeling for me.

I agree with LeeLoo though that Saturn has a lot to do with insecurities as well. My Saturn is also in the 8th house.

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Its quite conceivable that the Aries Moon would develope the "hero" syndrom. Not like Piscves, who doesn't have their ego invested.

But like the world would fall apart if the Aries didn't try saving it. Or that things will simply go wry if the Aries in question does not take action. Hmmm

But the T-square definitely re-enforces that "crisis" mode you like being in. The energy of a T-square in Cardinal is phenomenal. I should know. I have it too

But I wonder if you don't go out "looking" for crisis or at-least not feeling alive until you "fix" something that is broken or about to be? The Moon in 8th just re-iterates all that.

My mother has Sun Sag-Pluto Virgo square and she has the same attitude: She feels she has to do everything herself.And when there is nothing to do, she gets a little frustrated and restless.

I also agree that Saturn plays a role in insecurities. I don't argue that.But IME there is a difference- as I explained in the response to LeeLo.

posted November 05, 2014 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Aries23Degrees,

I know quite a lot of "helpers" who seem to draw much meaning, to the point of self-gratification, from helping others out, so I think Pisces Mooners (or any mooners) can easily have their ego invested in letting someone cry on their shoulder as well. It really depends on the person

But I didn't mean to say the world would fall apart without Aries Moon people, I merely tried to point out one kind of situation that I personally, with that particular T-square going on, felt most secure in, likely because I know in such situations I can trust in my abilities the most. And remember that in my example situation, I did not ask to be present there, but rather was asked to come, likely because my friend knows she can depend on me not to faint or freak out during delivery, and I would much have preferred to get some sleep after 3 days nearly without. My friend appreciated the support very much BTW, and most people who have given birth would know why. However, had she not called, I would not have gone there.

Routine work is much more difficult for me to get done because 1) it's, well, routine and therefore boring; 2) someone else could do it just as well, so why me? and 3) Aries likes, and in fact regularly needs, challenges, difficult situations to test one's abilities against, and incentives to get better. I do not see this as a bad thing, because all the different gifts and temperaments of people have their own value, no one is superior to the other, and if nobody would have enough stamina to do what Aries Moon deems too boring to do, everything would go downhill for sure. But whatever their motivation may be, without people who can function well in a crisis, such moments can take bad turns all too often; and without people who have other skills, the world would fall apart in other circumstances.

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posted November 05, 2014 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh my *hugs*. I can relate. Nothing disheartens me more than when someone doesn't give me a chance to express myself.

I also am so happy with the Libra.He has Moon in 3rd like me. So we can chat until the Sun comes up.There is always something to say

Add to that, I feel like I am the one who listens a lot. His Moon conjunct Jupiter in 3rd- so I feel like he talks in manner that "teaches"( If that makes any sense).

But the reason I knew we would last was because when we met and started chatting, he would NEVER interrupt and when he did, he would do it so gently that I would not feel it.

However, he would ALWAYS go back to say "Sorry for that. You were talking about **** before I butted in.Please continue..." to show that not only is he listening, but he is interested.

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posted November 05, 2014 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Capricorn Moon people are often adverse to emotional displays. i get that. I have a Mercury in Cap and refrain from showing too much emotional bias in the way I communicate.

Also, your Moon in 5th house Capricorn would make work something fun for you.

I wonder how you do in more relaxed atmospheres i.e being around children and acting silly?

I know a Caprciron Moon in 5th who doesn't like children as she says they make her nervous and awkward with their staring

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posted November 05, 2014 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

But now,I ask more questions and ask whether the probability of such "miraculous" occurrences are because of perfect timing? Smoke and mirrors OR both?

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posted November 05, 2014 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:

kinda similar to my experiences

Aries moon in 11th: I need to be interested in something. It squares my venus and uranus in cap so thankfully I can pull myself back and say: "Get your act together!"

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posted November 05, 2014 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
It sucks when we lose interest, doesn't it. For me it feels like most of the fun suddenly get drained away. Saturn helps me to keep it together. But meh it can be such a drag.

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Yeah... it's a dragggggg
I wish i just have aries energy or cap energy, you know, so I can either move on for good or be reserved for good. But no...
Aries moon is my fire singleton

posted November 05, 2014 08:20 PM              

Gemini Moon in the 5th house, here!

What makes me feel secure is the ability to express how I feel as creatively as I possibly can. To be able to undo myself in an artistic space, to dance, to sing, to write, to speak openly. To unleash the youthful soul in me that's yearning to come out. To laugh wholeheartedly. Yes, to laugh wholeheartedly. Those are the times that I feel safest and in my element.

What makes me insecure is not only the deprivation of the aforementioned but when I feel trapped by the weight of family drama and burdens. When I see that everything is going wrong with my family, when everyone's fighting, and the chaos won't stop to the extent that it outdoes my natural chaotic state of mind. This f*cks me up, especially when I'm the object of my parents' anger and contempt, and my attempt at reasoning with them falls on deaf ears.

posted November 05, 2014 08:43 PM            

secure:
hearing music i like. having my SPACE. having alone time to recharge. honest, clear intentions from others. my spiritual beliefs get me through every day. i am more secure when carrying crystals. being around calm people and cats who ground me. being around churchyards, cemeteries, and beautiful architecture. basically being in spiritual places, alone. or with someone i trust. being able to see the moon. seeing the sky after sunset. seeing any animal. i always feel very secure when traveling / adventuring.

insecure:
when people are pushy or smothering, (i feel like i can't hear myself think and thus i am losing my mind), being with someone for too long (i lose myself in their energy), being in malls. formal social situations. having to put on a face and say things you don't mean to be professional. having people question my word or intentions. when someone is not direct with me and they are upset.

posted November 06, 2014 03:25 AM            

Natally, my Moon is in Scorpio, in the 4th. Needless to say my family is what generally gives me that sense of security.

But ever since immigrating to another continent my chart flipped so now I've got my Scorpio Moon in the 9th house. I still need my family, but now I don't feel completely safe without an academic environment.

It's astonishing to me how accurately a simple planetary placement can describe my life. My teachers and classmates give me a sense of home away from home, a type of pseudo family supplement.

The problem is, neither the 4th (real family) or the 9th (school) can fulfill me on their own.

I suppose if I HAD to choose, I'd choose the 4th because not only is my soul cemented there, but it's also in my natal, shaping the very foundation of who I am.

posted November 06, 2014 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What do you think my insecurities are, Aries ?(with Moon in Leo 7th), because I'm not really aware of them when it comes to this thread

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posted November 06, 2014 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What do you think my insecurities are, Aries ?(with Moon in Leo 7th), because I'm not really aware of them when it comes to this thread

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You'd get insecure if you weren't treated like a queen in your relationship?

posted November 06, 2014 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You'd get insecure if you weren't treated like a queen in your relationship?

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But that is inconceivable...

posted November 06, 2014 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

How do you feel about caring for a partner or being cared for by the partner(Moon in 7th).

And by that, i also mean being mothered or fussed over?

Since your Moon is in Leo, I wonder if having the partner constantly shower you with attention and make you feel like you are "the one and only" can go a long way in making you feel secure?

Also,when someone has the Moon in Leo, they tend to feel most secure when they are being listened to or consulted by someone for their "expertise" in the subject.

Play around with it. The 7th is where we deal with others/relationship arena. So there could be a connection in dealing with relating that makes you feel secure.

I would imagine(unless there are strong mitigating chart factors),the Moon in Leo in 7th is no loner.

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Sorry, Aries, I didn't see this post, thanks

I suppose that's it. Especially since DSC is in Cancer.

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posted November 06, 2014 06:37 PM            

I like having someone to sleep with at night. It helps to have a bed to sleep in at night as well (not something I've always had).

When my kids were little, they had to sleep with me. I felt very nervous when they were away. When they got big enough to kick me in the face, I moved them to their own little beds in the same room with me. When they were about 7 & 10 they moved into their own rooms.

Now, it's just me & the hubby in our room.

So in other words, I feel secure sleeping surrounded by my family. We could have crappy days and be at each other's throats but all cuddled up... nothing else in the world like that.

I do tend to cuddle with platonic friends too. I love having them over just watching TV. My home is my place of security.