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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 05, 2014 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister and I share the Moon in Cancer and although there is some similarities in our external perceptions,we are also very differing in our styles of delivery.

I have the Moon in Cancer in 3rd and love to communicate. I think relating to someone and being able to speak about my feelings makes me feel secure.

Of-course there are challenges in that expression. My Moon faces an opposition with Mercury and square with Mars.

Sometimes what I want to say doesn't come out in the manner I always hope OR I completely go off tangent.

But I have noticed that the one thing that doesn't make me feel good is being ignored, interrupted or told to "shut it"!.

My soul(Moon in Cancer)is in my expression (3rd). I write,I read,I speak. I actually am someone who enjoys going to therapy/job interviews as I see them as avenues to talk about myself

My sister is a lot more assertive than I am however.Not to mention aggressive.

She has her Moon in Cancer in 1st house. She feels most secure when she is given free reign to be herself. She feels most offended when she is told to "tone it down".

I notice that her soul(Moon in Cancer)is in the way she approaches others(1st). She always wants to be upfront and "real".

What's you Moon and house placements? And what makes you feel secure/insecure?


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posted November 05, 2014 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate to you OP!
I have moon in taurus in the 3rd, I also have mars in gemini there. I like to communicate and if I feel like i'm being ignored or someone's not listening to me I get angry or offended. And since i'm generally a good listener I hate it when someone talks when i'm trying to say something.

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posted November 05, 2014 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea. My Moon is in Leo 7th. Sextile Mercury quintile Uranus trine Neptune/NN.

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posted November 05, 2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ungumuda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in libra in 11th house with a lot of squares. Sometimes I feel like detached person emotionally. I read somewhere that air sign is good placement since air sign tend to be analytical. I often rationalize my feeling, without really feeling it. And with a lot if squares, deep down I'm really insecure. I still try to figure it out.

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posted November 05, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a great thread!
I can now clearly see where my childhood insecurities came from. Since my moon and mars are in the 3rd communication has always been important to me. The problem is I have Gemini on the I.C and the people in my family aren't exactly great listeners. Most of them are very chatty and ADD and can't keep their mouths shut long enough to listen to what you have to say. I can remember many a time growing up when we were all at the dinner table and I would listen intently to whoever was talking/telling a story and most of the time when I would try to speak they would just keep talking and halfway listen to what I was saying or they would ignore me completely and I would become enraged or offended. On several occasions I slammed my fist on the table with such force that I knocked plates and cups off the table and dramatically shouted "listen to me!!". Of course my family thought I was nuts and overly sensitive and chastised me thus making me feel even more insecure. I think that is part of the reason I'm shy and lack confidence today. While I don't act out like I did when I was younger it still hurts/angers me when I feel like people aren't listening to what I have to say.

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posted November 05, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I have no idea. My Moon is in Leo 7th. Sextile Mercury quintile Uranus trine Neptune/NN.


Maybe your biggest fear is being alone or sticked to someone who is boring, stupid & your romantic feelings have been faded away a long time ago

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posted November 05, 2014 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon in aries in 10th. My moon makes a wide (6 deg) square to my sun in cancer in 1st and a semi-square to mars in gem in 11h. That's it. Maybe a trine to Neptune in sag n 5h as well if you'd count 10 deg.

what makes me feel insecure: if people don't like me (esp. bully-groups)and while being on the path to my dream job.

What would you tell me when looking at me moon Position?

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posted November 05, 2014 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn Moon 5H

Open communication makes me feel secure. No hidden sh1t! Work makes me secure. ALOT of work. Being around animals makes me secure. Nature makes me secure. Traveling alone, eating in restaurants makes me secure.

Emotions make me insecure. I am better off just being cerebral and I try to remain that way at all costs.

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posted November 05, 2014 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Maybe your biggest fear is being alone or sticked to someone who is boring, stupid & your romantic feelings have been faded away a long time ago

No chance for that...I'd rather be alone.

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posted November 05, 2014 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
I have moon in aries in 10th. My moon makes a wide (6 deg) square to my sun in cancer in 1st and a semi-square to mars in gem in 11h. That's it. Maybe a trine to Neptune in sag n 5h as well if you'd count 10 deg.

what makes me feel insecure: if people don't like me (esp. bully-groups)and while being on the path to my dream job.

What would you tell me when looking at me moon Position?


a very cardinal Moon afraid of being left/put in a corner maybe??

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posted November 05, 2014 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No chance for that...I'd rather be alone.

Me too

But hey, there are people out there who are in relationships with someone they find stupid, ugly or something like that Really, I've met them

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posted November 05, 2014 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
a very cardinal Moon afraid of being left/put in a corner maybe??


What means a very cardinal moon? Once I heard my moon shall be great for any career but 29 deg is critical
Yeah, esp. by men

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posted November 05, 2014 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8H Pisces moon

This ties in with my screen name. I only feel secure because I trust life, trust that there is a Higher Purpose...feel that it's possible for us to merge (8H/Scorpio) with God (Pisces/death.)

What makes me feel insecure? Lots of things, but on point: confronting antagonistic spirits. Poltergeists. This only happened to me for the first time a few months ago and it rattled me to the core.

I don't know how to put it in context, I'm just glad it went away. But still, it symbolizes a crack in my faith: if I'm vulnerable to demons or whatever, that makes the whole grand scheme of things more sinister than I've wanted to accept.

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posted November 05, 2014 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Saturn and insecurities? What do you think, Aries?

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posted November 05, 2014 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 05, 2014 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries moon - 3rd house.

What makes me feel secure: Interest, interest, interest, burning wants/desires, curiosity.... These things make me feel like I can do everything I want to do, give me motivation, make me feel invincible.

What makes me feel insecure: well a lack of interest, or "fear" that I may lose interest. When I don't like something I find it terribly difficult to get going. Most of my interest often fade quickly, sometimes I'm in the middle of something and it strikes. Then I don't want to move forward anymore due the lack of interest and motivation, but am unable to retreat due to a bunch of complications.

There is very few things that can make me feel better than suddenly having some sort of fancy/interest/inspiration, moving in quickly and getting it done/snatching it/making it...etc... in a very short time.

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posted November 05, 2014 10:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini Moon
9th house.
I'll throw in that I have Sag 3rd.

Secure - when I can say ABSOLUTELY anything. TOTAL freedom of speech.

Insecure - when I feel like I have to censor myself. As a result of being misunderstood being the worst.

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Cancer moon. 11th house.

I feel insecure when it seems like the person I love doest feel as strongly for me. I think it can tie into my moon and house because my cancer moon wants security and emotional validation and in the 11th house I just want to be accepted for who I am, not who I'm not. I want to belong to somebody or if I vcc ant, then something. I've been in the military and it was kind of fulfilling to belong to something like that. To have all your buddies around closer than you'll ever be to a civilian friend.

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posted November 05, 2014 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What about Saturn and insecurities? What do you think, Aries?

Yes,I also think that can also show an area of insecurity.Where one feels a very "inadequate".But there is a difference.

For the Moon, there is a "knowing" that I am brilliant,intellectual,animated and interesting.The "joy" and comfort comes in the expression of all that.

The feeling of "insecurity" comes about from external interference or contradiction of that.

Like when I feel blocked,unappreciated or have people not respond so enthusiastically.
I ask myself "Can't you see just how brilliant I am?" OR "It makes me sad that I am so under-valued"

It's always external and there is an awareness that something is not right.That I need to get back to being the old me because that is my "knee-jerk" response to anything.

I ended a relationship with someone who had their Moon in 12th; I just couldn't take how unresponsive they were AND it hurt. They showed no interest in anything and seemed to be especially indifferent towards me.

Now with Saturn,there is no such "knowing" of being fabulous and the life of the party. It's almost like you have a "voetstoot" clause- that is to say "I was born with this defect" and your constant awareness of it is the insecurity.

There is no-one outside who points it out, it is born from within and one "works" their whole life through to better it.

I have Saturn in Scorpio in 7th.What I can say is that I lost my virginity at 18 because I was terrified of sexual intimacy.

Even now,when it comes to relationships and partnerships(7th),I worry(Saturn) about issues of sex and intimacy(Scorpio) ;performance anxiety,sexual attraction to partner,issues with regards to "getting it up" are all issues that I have had to deal with in one form or another.

I have no idea where all these insecurities began and why they feel so real. As my partner tells me that I am the best he has ever had.

But that's because I constantly work at it(Saturn in Scorpio). I work(Saturn)at sexual expression (Scorpio) and being the partner(7th)that I feel obligated(Saturn)to become

Others who share my placement who haven't made peace with these issue or feel them and can't put a label on them, tend to act in ways that I am quick to pick up on.

Most may avoid sex(even though they have a potent sexual drive),hide sexual feelings, blame the partner for their feelings of inadequacy/performance,even say that are sex is "evil" etc. in order to avoid confronting sexual issues.

I know a guy who has Saturn in 8th and chose to become a Priest;redirecting the sexual energy of Scorpio to the fervent worship of Jesus.

I think he also sought to "control" the energy so that it doesn't make him feel inadequate as a man.

He also has Mars-Saturn conjunct in Scorpio and Saturn "caps" his Mars(expression of a Man's sexuality).

I don't know his time of birth,however.But I found the manifestation interesting

My dream is to become a sex therapist and help others in overcoming emotional baggage they have to sexual expression and intimacy; body image,"package" issues,religious incompatibility issues etc.

And this is a very appropriate longing for someone who has Saturn in Scorpio in the 7th house.

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posted November 05, 2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
This is a great thread!
I can now clearly see where my childhood insecurities came from. Since my moon and mars are in the 3rd communication has always been important to me. The problem is I have Gemini on the I.C and the people in my family aren't exactly great listeners. Most of them are very chatty and ADD and can't keep their mouths shut long enough to listen to what you have to say. I can remember many a time growing up when we were all at the dinner table and I would listen intently to whoever was talking/telling a story and most of the time when I would try to speak they would just keep talking and halfway listen to what I was saying or they would ignore me completely and I would become enraged or offended. On several occasions I slammed my fist on the table with such force that I knocked plates and cups off the table and dramatically shouted "listen to me!!". Of course my family thought I was nuts and overly sensitive and chastised me thus making me feel even more insecure. I think that is part of the reason I'm shy and lack confidence today. While I don't act out like I did when I was younger it still hurts/angers me when I feel like people aren't listening to what I have to say.

Oh my *hugs*. I can relate. Nothing disheartens me more than when someone doesn't give me a chance to express myself.

I also am so happy with the Libra.He has Moon in 3rd like me. So we can chat until the Sun comes up.There is always something to say

Add to that, I feel like I am the one who listens a lot. His Moon conjunct Jupiter in 3rd- so I feel like he talks in manner that "teaches"( If that makes any sense).

But the reason I knew we would last was because when we met and started chatting, he would NEVER interrupt and when he did, he would do it so gently that I would not feel it.

However, he would ALWAYS go back to say "Sorry for that. You were talking about **** before I butted in.Please continue..." to show that not only is he listening, but he is interested.

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posted November 05, 2014 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
I have moon in aries in 10th. My moon makes a wide (6 deg) square to my sun in cancer in 1st and a semi-square to mars in gem in 11h. That's it. Maybe a trine to Neptune in sag n 5h as well if you'd count 10 deg.

what makes me feel insecure: if people don't like me (esp. bully-groups)and while being on the path to my dream job.

What would you tell me when looking at me moon Position?


For the Moon in 10th, it is often the case that their soul(Moon) is in their career(10th).

So I think that with Moon in Aries in 10th. You'd want the freedom of self-expression and be who you are(Moon Aries).

But since the 10th rules career and authority figures, it is also the opinion of others,the public and the authority figures that can make one feel good(Moon).

So,you would want your personality(Moon in Aries) to be seen as an asset by authority figures and the general public(10th)

So if the manager says "You showed a lot of initiative and thorough judgment at that meeting Helen. You are indeed the best worker under this department. I see great things for your future in this company"

That would be like "manna" from heaven.

But if it was the opposite " We have been in discussions about your behavior Susan.And all of us here at the office feel that you should keep your distance and only associate with other employees under strict professional conditions"

Now that would be hell to hear.

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posted November 05, 2014 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Capricorn Moon 5H

Open communication makes me feel secure. No hidden sh1t! Work makes me secure. ALOT of work. Being around animals makes me secure. Nature makes me secure. Traveling alone, eating in restaurants makes me secure.

Emotions make me insecure. I am better off just being cerebral and I try to remain that way at all costs.


Capricorn Moon people are often adverse to emotional displays. i get that. I have a Mercury in Cap and refrain from showing too much emotional bias in the way I communicate.

Also, your Moon in 5th house Capricorn would make work something fun for you.

I wonder how you do in more relaxed atmospheres i.e being around children and acting silly?

I know a Caprciron Moon in 5th who doesn't like children as she says they make her nervous and awkward with their staring

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posted November 05, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I have no idea. My Moon is in Leo 7th. Sextile Mercury quintile Uranus trine Neptune/NN.


How do you feel about caring for a partner or being cared for by the partner(Moon in 7th).

And by that, i also mean being mothered or fussed over?

Since your Moon is in Leo, I wonder if having the partner constantly shower you with attention and make you feel like you are "the one and only" can go a long way in making you feel secure?

Also,when someone has the Moon in Leo, they tend to feel most secure when they are being listened to or consulted by someone for their "expertise" in the subject.

Play around with it. The 7th is where we deal with others/relationship arena. So there could be a connection in dealing with relating that makes you feel secure.

I would imagine(unless there are strong mitigating chart factors),the Moon in Leo in 7th is no loner.

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posted November 05, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
For the Moon in 10th, it is often the case that their soul(Moon) is in their career(10th).

So I think that with Moon in Aries in 10th. You'd want the freedom of self-expression and be who you are(Moon Aries).

But since the 10th rules career and authority figures, it is also the opinion of others,the public and the authority figures that can make one feel good(Moon).

So,you would want your personality(Moon in Aries) to be seen as an asset by authority figures and the general public(10th)

So if the manager says [b]"You showed a lot of initiative and thorough judgment at that meeting Helen. You are indeed the best worker under this department. I see great things for your future in this company"

That would be like "manna" from heaven.

But if it was the opposite " We have been in discussions about your behavior Susan.And all of us here at the office feel that you should keep your distance and only associate with other employees under strict professional conditions"

Now that would be hell to hear.[/B]


You are right with every single assumption

But if I am doing a job that I don't consider being part of my destiny, I wouldn't care about compliments on my work. But I would always feel bad about "We have been in discussions about your behavior Susan.And all of us here at the office feel that you should keep your distance and only associate with other employees under strict professional conditions" -> Like a nightmare. Really.

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posted November 05, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TuxLuigi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5th house Pisces Moon, conjunct the 6th.

What makes me feel secure: Hell if I know. I have never been entirely secure - even when I feel secure because of something (such as feeling loved back by my girlfriend, for instance), something else comes to make me insecure about other things anyway. I've never, ever been in a complete state of security. The things that make me secure seem like pretty generic things anyway, so eh. If you could help, here are my lunar aspects: trine Sun, Mercury and MC, square Venus and Mars, sextile Jupiter, semisquare Neptune.

What makes me insecure: Fear of being unloved by those I like. Having my life choices, hard work or fiancee get insulted. Feeling like I am much less good than everybody else (which is very often the case).

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