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Virgo28
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posted January 23, 2015 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Virgo28, do you think there is a difference in how men and women experience these aspects?

No =)

Venus trine Uranus is wanted to be in love freely. Unisex...


The woman I had this with had Sun sextile Uranus so I guess she got my Moon conjunct Uranus.

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posted January 23, 2015 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon trine & sextile each other Mars.

If you have hard aspect, it means the negative expression will be shown.

In our case we have Mars/Neptune DW trine & sextile.

We could be freaks and it was ok.

In our synastry, we have around 12 pluto aspects.

Me: Virgo sun
Her: Leo sun

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posted January 23, 2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, ok. So you're talking synastry. Sounds cool. I'm not there quite yet. Maybe when I meet him for the first time (or again) I'll dig into the synastry of it all

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posted January 23, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
So how do you guys think a man expresses or feels Venus-Uranus (Gemini30 wasn't too excited), and a woman expresses Mars-Neptune?

For me Venus-Uranus (once I grew into it) represents the way I live my life. Mars-Neptune describes my sexual nature, with my sexual nature being strongly spiritual.

Cancer Venus XI trine Scorpio Uranus IV
Gemini Mars XI opposite Sagittarius Neptune V


I have Mars-neptune and I really need the person I date to be sensitive. My Mars is in capricorn and I don't have personal planets in water. I have pluto water singleton but I partner who's really sensitive appeals to me.

Also there's a quality of sacred love. I have venus-neptune too ... So not sure what's manifested here.

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posted January 30, 2015 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It's 5am. Just finished working. I'm kind of a workaholic (or maybe really bad at time management)...Anyway when I work too late or early I can't sleep so I just listen to music among other things. I found this perfectly sentimental love (?) song for all my Venus-Uranus ladies.

"I'm a wanderer... Shame on me for changing. Shame on you for staying the same...I'm a wanderer..."

http://youtu.be/wJ6umyNCvqw

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posted January 30, 2015 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Mars-neptune and I really need the person I date to be sensitive. My Mars is in capricorn and I don't have personal planets in water. I have pluto water singleton but I partner who's really sensitive appeals to me.

Also there's a quality of sacred love. I have venus-neptune too ... So not sure what's manifested here.


"Sacred love" that's the term

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posted January 30, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I found this perfectly sentimental love (?) song for all my Venus-Uranus ladies.

"I'm a wanderer... Shame on me for changing. Shame on you for staying the same...I'm a wanderer..."

http://youtu.be/wJ6umyNCvqw


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posted January 30, 2015 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"Sacred love" that's the term


do you have mars-neptune?

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posted January 30, 2015 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do. Mars opposite Neptune. I've read about this aspect. I am aware of it. I know it in my self. I've touched it seen it felt it. I haven't had the chance to fully unlock it. I know there is more to it than I've experienced.

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posted January 30, 2015 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do. Mars opposite Neptune. I've read about this aspect. I am aware of it. I know it in my self. I've touched it seen it felt it. I haven't had the chance to fully unlock it. I know there is more to it than I've experienced.

The songs from Jhene Aiko are really neptunian by the way. I know she's a pisces but I didn't think of it as uranian at all. That's just me though

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posted January 30, 2015 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars/Uranus trine....

My Venus/anti-Vertex does sit on the mid point between Pluto/Uranus

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posted January 30, 2015 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Mars/Uranus trine....

My Venus/anti-Vertex does sit on the mid point between Pluto/Uranus


Congrats on your trine Gabby. I think the trine is awesome.

"Venus/anti-Vertex does sit on the mid point between Pluto/Uranus" what is this like?

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posted January 30, 2015 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The songs from Jhene Aiko are really neptunian by the way. I know she's a pisces but I didn't think of it as uranian at all. That's just me though

I'm open to this. I think the sound is very Neptunian, but the lyrics...


I never feel like Uranus is expressed aggressively or violently in my life, and is only abrupt for those around me. For me it flows naturally. Throw the puzzles pieces up in the air and they land where they should. I think back, and this (song) is how my thoughts sound...


"Change is inevitable
Why hold on to what you have to let go of?
Like, did I really break your heart?
Was it all my fault?
If you don't knock it off
You know like I know where this was headed

I'm a wanderer
I'm a wanderer, baby
I'm a wanderer
I'm a wanderer

Flying kite was nice
Turquoise seas and ocean breezes
Loving you was nice
But it's a new day, a new season
I've been sad inside
And he could see it, picked up your pieces
We are just alive
And alright, alright, alright

He's a wanderer
He's a wanderer, baby
He's a wanderer
He's a wanderer"

It's probably more like "We are just alike", but I prefer "we are just alive"

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posted January 30, 2015 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But again I heard of Pisces described as thinking like this...

My Cancer Sun is in XII...

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posted January 30, 2015 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"We are just alive"

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posted January 30, 2015 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still neptunian to me. Fishy likes to wander and when they are angry, it's the transcendental flood (Mars in pisces very common among serial killers)

This song describes the uranian lover
http://youtu.be/VPbGlYAEf0o

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posted January 30, 2015 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovely



But this is from the perspective of the one loving "Uranus", not how the Uranian lover feels...

"To have and not to hold
So hot, yet so cold
My heart is in your hand
And yet you never stand
Close enough for me to have my way
To love but not to keep
To laugh, not to weep
Your eyes, they go right through
And yet you never do
Anything to make me want to stay
Like a moth to a flame
Only I am to blame
...What can I do?
...I go straight to you
...I've been told
You're to have, not to hold
To look but not to see
To kiss but never be
The object of your desire
I'm walking on a wire
And there's no one at all
To break my fall"

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posted January 30, 2015 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the experience is much more tragic, and possibly dark for the one who loves "Uranus". For the Uranian lover it is more simple and free flowing like, "we are just alive"

...I kind of think...

addition:

Maybe I see it this way because for me it is a trine between venus cancer and uranus scorpio...(?)

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posted January 30, 2015 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Congrats on your trine Gabby. I think the trine is awesome.

"Venus/anti-Vertex does sit on the mid point between Pluto/Uranus" what is this like?


I'm attracted to weird things, unique or odd ppl. I fall in love with ppl for things others would not see as normal.
I feel in love with one guy, he had this stare...it was so intense and kind of creepy but I loved it, it was so hot to me. Lol...I called it his rape stare.

I think brainy scientist are so hot! I literally think Einstein is kind of cute! Lol

His the interpretation for Venus on Uranus/Pluto midpoint..

Venus: To find beauty in that which is extremely unusual, strange, and/or radically experimental. One's love relationships may go through extreme changes. One is attracted to eccentric or intensely unique people.

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posted January 30, 2015 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My favorite description of Uranus

http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/07/09/three-paths-to-wisdom-uranus-and-the-path-of-mind/

"I’d like you to sit back and think about an outstanding experience of the planet Uranus. Most of us will come up with some sudden shock or turnabout during a major Uranus transit or progression. Most of us will associate Uranus with the unexpected. Uranus is all that’s new, Uranus is exciting, Uranus is all about discovering new paths and new directions. Uranus is supposed to guide us into the future via flashes of lightning.

But think about it. It depends on how astrologically savvy you were during the transit or progression, but what really happened? No matter what happened afterwards and how it had to be processed for you to squeeze wisdom out of it, Uranus was first responsible for taking away something–and taking it away suddenly and unexpectedly. Before he communicates anything to us, anything at all, he is the Great Severer. Now, mind you, he’s fast–he works before we can see him coming, the quickest hatchet man around–but Uranus’s first order of business is to disconnect us. What is he disconnecting us from? Our ordinary, ego-bound patterns and definitions and our habitual ways of understanding our world. Uranus is impatient. He’s bringing us the future the way he sees it, how dare we get mired in the past? The Uranian disconnect can be ruthless. Sometimes it’s so fast it seems bloodless, or it can be as bloody as the French Revolution and then some. [Remember that the guillotine was invented (during the discovery of Uranus) as a humanitarian advancement.] But when Uranus is active, the first thing he does is pull the plug. He will shake us off no matter how hard we hold on.

In his severing mode, Uranus can be the most frightening of the Three Bullies, otherwise known as the transpersonal planets. I associate Uranus with a particular kind of trauma in the chart, one that lingers on with nerve-shattering results. It results in a kind of personal Post Traumatic Stress Disorder–wherever Uranus lies in the chart, it is responsible for a violent taking-away, a traumatic removal. And unless you really understand this part of Uranus, the rest of Uranian behaviour doesn’t really make any sense.

Say Uranus falls on the Ascendant of a chart. This person would identify with being out of the norm, different, more advanced, unusual. He or she might identify with and fight for humanitarian causes. Dig under the surface, the reasons for this behaviour can be a denial of the individual “I”, which can occur because the person involved is somehow robbed (usually in early life) of the sense of individual identity and belonging. We have a choice of joining the rebellious ‘group’ and finding an identity within it or we remain forever scapegoats and outsiders, exiled from our own sense of legitimacy in the world. The erratic Uranian pattern reinforces the behaviour–if ever do try to fit in, I get cut off. Or I only fit in with the strange and the unusual, . The best route for Uranus here is the Path of Mind. We are initiated into a new awareness because we are forced to confront circumstances which remove us from the ego. All three of the outer planets teach us lessons about getting our egos out of the way. With Uranus, it’s our ‘little world, little mind’ tendencies that fly out the window. We are challenged to stretch our definitions. As anyone with a Mercury/Uranus connection will tell you, the minute you think you understand something, Uranus will step in and take you further.

All three of the outer planets initiate us into their awakening by removing us from the primary quality of the lower octave planet. With Uranus, we are severed from our connection-making abilities. Mercury is the connecting planet which allows us to make sense of and understand our worldly experiences. Uranus removes the logical processes of Mercury and replaces it with sudden shifts of awareness. Mercury is the way we make meaning out of information. When Uranus pulls the plug on us and then rudely bombards us with universal truths beyond our ordinary understanding, we often feel on shaky ground. Sometimes, where Uranus is concerned, we might know things, but we don’t know why. Again, our lack of support for our convictions leaves us high up, but on very unstable scaffolding.

The infamous Uranian ‘fascination’–electric, and so different from the spell-weaving fascination of Neptune–has to do with this initial severing. So much of it has to do with the ‘shock of the new’–whatever we are fascinated by removes us from our ordinary reality. We remain fascinated until we gradually begin to understand the fascination, or we can no longer take the pressure of the removal from ordinary life, or we decide that the changes that will be required of us to fulfill the promise of the fascination will be beyond our capabilities.

Whether or not Mercury and Uranus have a connection in the chart, it’s Mercury that struggles with the new information. If your Mercury has an aspect to Uranus, even a difficult one, then you’re in luck, because your Mercury has been put on the fast track to Uranian wisdom. The quickness of mind associated with Mercury/Uranus is not always pleasant in the easier aspects–I’ve seen troubles with both the conjunction and the sextile, because Mercury can get overloaded with the flow of Uranian energy, and can mentally cut out because of it. The mental processes of strong Mercury/Uranus can easily affect the body, often with nerve issues and mental exhaustion. If Mercury isn’t ready to process the wisdom of Uranus, there can be difficult consequences. Uranus is always urging us to let go, to allow distance, something Mercury is often not prepared to do in its struggle to understand. When Mercury learns that it is capable of making connections at great distances, greater than it ever assumed, then its impact on our lives grows and we allow ourselves to create new concepts of the greater Mercurial connections. These concepts then become the building blocks of the elevated Mind. When Mercury stretches its wings, we are no longer confined to the prison of our day to day reality. We understand that there are new lands to conquer, off where the gods reside and the mere rules of man no longer apply. And Mercury can now help us lay down the plans to get there.

The more we allow Uranus in, and the more we let go of our limited understanding, the greater influence we have over our own charts. We use Mercury to process all of our experiences, not just our Uranian ones, and if Mercury is operating on a higher vibration, the entire chart becomes illuminated. Mercury often gets short shrift in chart interpretation (unless he is retrograde and causing havoc with our plans), and it’s sad, because without Mercury we have no way of making sense of our experience. It’s our ideas about our lives that determine what we make of those lives. (Or, in the words of Epicetus, “We are not troubled by things, but by the opinions we have of things.”) When Mercury has been elevated through its struggles to comprehend Uranian experience, the range and scope of our lives becomes infinite. We then see that we are connected to the everything and the all in a very intimate, personal way. Our individuality then is created not by ego, but by the way this universal energy flows through and expresses itself through our individual consciousness"

http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/07/09/three-paths-to-wisdom-uranus-and-the-path-of-mind/

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posted January 30, 2015 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol. This actually proves your point, though, that the Uranian lover isn't quite a wanderer...

...but it gets me to my point that the Uranian lover IS a seeker, and not cold or detached in the sense that we don't care, but that we are reaching for something higher. And it is a love and a passion for something, usually unknown, that drives us.

Either way, I'm doing one or the other, I guess. I'm seeking, and in my down time, I'm wandering.

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posted January 30, 2015 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but again...lol, sorry...

The seeker doesn't know where she's going so it feels like wandering. It's just that for us, the point at which one door closes and another opens is very clear (they don't necessarily happen at the same time).

And where we earn our reputation is in our inability to wait or deny the signs once we've seen them, and our inability to care what other people think once we've made a decision. I can't not move forward, but I never want to hurt anyone. I always hope that they saw the lesson too.

Some of my Venus-Uranus sisters maybe can't relate, so just ignore my rants if you can't.

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posted January 30, 2015 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^the difference between uranus and Neptune is the different between Aqua and pisces. Uranus is willful; it is proud to stand on the side line and in that sense it is judgmental of those it rejected/or those who reject the uranian native.
Uranus is also air and hence very abrupt, flippant, light hearted. The way it is a wanderer is like how Aqua sextile with sag. Uranus seeks authenticity of the individual; similar to pluto, uranus forces people to face taboos but not through emotion rebirth like pluto but rather an accepting, intellectual approach. Uranians are out spoken and can be very argumentative.

On the other hand, neptune is watery. Pisces is the least judgmental sign; it doesn't seek to shock because it has empathy for even those who have so much hatred inside them. Neptunian are attracted to virgo energy where one can pick other apart and point out the flaws but choose to serve nonetheless. Uranian wouldn't wsnt that. You love me for who I am, not because you've chosen to accept my flaws

I think what you just said is correct. We have switches in our head; when the door closes, it closes; there's no confusion.

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posted January 30, 2015 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit: all over the place- a work in progress, likely to be edited an hour after you're read it and then again after another hour

I guess this where it becomes true that you have to look at the whole chart. I never feel judgmental. I usually feel sorry for people who don't understand me, because they have loved me and my behavior looks like I never loved, when in fact I never stop loving. I take a lesson from every experience. When it involves a lover I usually feel as if I know what my lesson and their lesson was/is. Sometimes I think I can see what they needed to learn in order to help them grow. When you're breaking up, people get pretty mad at you when you try to talk to them about that kind of **** . I still feel sorry, and hopeful. But maybe it's arrogant of me to think I know what someone else needs to learn...

The only time I fight is when someone tries to keep me (edit) and I've decided it's time to go. I feel backed into a corner. This is tough for my lover because when I'm in, I need to be possessed, and when I'm out, it's over. And I never go in planning to get out. I am never a casual lover...but I am looking for something, and I can't stop looking for it until I find it... Or I fight when someone tries to interfere with my living style. Uranus is in my 4th house. I am very proud here. I think because I am a Cancer Sun and Uranus lives in my 4th house I am very proud of what I have learned about raising children, and there isn't anything I love doing more. I am rather a beast of a mother/homemaker/homeschooler/career-woman. I work from home. That's how I manage it all.

Oh, also, I don't seek to shock, but I know I am shocking. I just can't help it.


So I don't know where I missed that you are venus uranus. I know you're mars neptune. Tell me about you Venus uranus aspect. Conjunct, opp., ...?


I'm supposed to be moving my things out of one of my units so that a tenant can move in tomorrow. I am procrastinating big time. LL is THE BEST procrastination tool.

Edit: sorry for the pretty big edits here. I needed to clarify, and it can take me a day to get clear.

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posted January 30, 2015 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I guess this where it becomes true that you have to look at the whole chart. I never feel judgmental. I usually feel sorry for people who don't understand me, because they have loved me and my behavior looks like I never loved, when in fact I never stop loving. I take a lesson from every experience. When it involves a lover I usually feel as if I know what my lesson and their lesson was/is. Sometimes I think I can see what they needed to learn in order to help them grow. When you're breaking up, people get pretty mad at you when you try to talk to them about that kind of **** . I still feel sorry, and hopeful. But maybe it's arrogant of me to think I know what someone else needs to learn...

The only time I fight is when someone tries to keep me (I feel backed into a corner). Or someone tries to change my living style. Uranus is in my 4th house. I am very proud here. I think because I am a Cancer Sun and Uranus lives in my 4th house I am very proud of what I have learned about raising children, and there isn't anything I love doing more. I am rather a beast of a mother/homemaker/homeschooler/career-woman. I work from home. That's how I manage it all.

Oh, also, I don't seek to shock, but I know I am shocking. I just can't help it.


So I don't know where I missed that you are venus uranus. I know you're mars neptune. Tell me about you Venus uranus aspect. Conjunct, opp., ...?


I'm supposed to be moving my things out of one of my units so that a tenant can move in tomorrow. I am procrastinating big time. LL is THE BEST procrastination tool.


It can be insulting to be be another experiment in venus/uranus life. Sometimes like being told to be independent/individual but then youre following another's script so that can't be achieved except by inevitable walk away. No doubt it teaches a necessary lesson though

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