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Aquacheeka
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posted July 02, 2015 07:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also think it's very likely that Pisces moon Anna Faris is sextile (by sign) Chris Pratt, and that his moon is likely Taurus because she recently praised how "grounded" he is... and he's a Gemini sun .

EDIT: Anna is a definite Pisces moon; the moon did not change signs on the day she was born.

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posted July 02, 2015 07:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23, two famous examples of the on/off thing you mentioned with the opposition are Gwen and Gavin, and Prince William and Kate. Both have the Cancer/Capricorn opposition. So do Angelina and Brad.

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posted July 02, 2015 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is interesting to also note their Sun/Moon Midpoints;

Jennifer Garner has hers in Taurus
Ben Affleck has his in Virgo.And they are not too far from each other.

So in essence(Sun/Moon combined),they were what the other was looking for.

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posted July 02, 2015 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Aries23, two famous examples of the on/off thing you mentioned with the opposition are Gwen and Gavin, and Prince William and Kate. Both have the Cancer/Capricorn opposition. So do Angelina and Brad.

The opposition attraction can be very alluring

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posted July 02, 2015 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Cancer/Capricorn axis is a special one too, due to their relation to Moon-Saturn, which is a complementary pairing (even though people favour the Sun-Moon-pairing, Moon-Saturn is still important).

It is even very apparent in terms of there time-rhythm (astronomically) as well.
I remember it totally flashed me when I realized that they mirror each other`s course around the sun exactly, just SAturn taking years, and Moon taking days.

29,458 years (for Saturn) - 29,458 days for Moon.

I find stuff like that fascinating.

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posted July 02, 2015 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I find the other oppositions intriguing as well.

Taurus-Scorpio and Libra - Aries relating to Venus-Mars/Pluto for instance.

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posted July 02, 2015 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I suggested in the thread she linked to that she Google "moon signs lasting relationship" or "moon signs compatible" or any such variation specifically because I've never seen so much consensus among astrologers on any single issue in astrology. She is literally the only astrologer I have ever seen prescribe hard moon aspects as a good thing, anywhere on the internet. When she came at me and said they're a good thing I was literally shocked. And her list that is supposed to prove her point actually proves mine instead.

She can give that advice if she wants to. I just think it's really, really bad advice.


Aquacheeka, I posted a list of 26 famous couples and their Moon to Moon aspects.
Out of the 26 examples, 10 are soft aspects + conjunction - which is in fact a 4th harmonic type, hard aspect- (described by some astrologers as "compatible Moons"). When I posted this list, I just picked the first 26 couples in my famous synastries database and listed them. You don't have to be a genius to understand that if out of 20 couples, only 10 have soft aspects, it means soft aspects are equally present as hard aspects.

It is a very small sample, statistically, but is a relevant one. If I posted 1000 couples, the result would be the same. The rate soft aspects vs hard aspects vs no aspects would be practically equal. Neither prevails.

If you indeed want to do or post astrological research with the slightest research value, you need to study your entire database, let's say 100 couples and see and post the rate soft vs hard. The idea is not to choose out of 100 the 30 or 50 couples who have soft aspects and say: "see, they all have soft aspects", this is not how statistics works; the idea is to work with statically relevant samples and witness groups. Since I have already done this research (and that's why I am talking about it), I know you will not find a 3:1 or 2:1 rate when it comes to Moon/Moon aspects and hard vs. soft. The rate is 1:1. In other words, neither soft, nor hard prevails. This is a statistical fact. Which obviously contradicts the "compatible Moons" theory.

I can see you posted a list of names, but no aspects or positions of the Moons; also, you didn't post the hard aspect couples for comparison.

I don't "prescribe" astrological aspects. I describe them;
as they happen in reality, based on a growing database of hundreds of couple charts. I practice a statistical astrology based on facts already happening. My astrological views are similar to other astrologers, and different from others, naturally. My research based on this statistical data led me to define relational compatibility in a different way: I don't believe compatible means trines and sextiles; because real life astrology statistics and logic contradict this fact.

Compatible means geometrical completion based on the natal charts, among other things.

In this respect, a trine is by no means more compatible than a square, if the person needs a square in their charts in that position. They have equal compatibility value. It's an ongoing research turning into a book, you will read more about it in there, if you are interested, when the time comes.

For now, you can read about my astrological view on compatibility and geometrical completion on my blog.

Also, you don't have to agree with my research; but you will have to find a different tone, much more respectful, no matter your different views, if you want to discuss with me or about me.

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posted July 02, 2015 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
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Moon in Aries- Moon in Virgo


*nod nod*

Explosive friction and grudging respect. But most of the time, it's fascination. The union is very beautiful and slightly chaotic.

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posted July 02, 2015 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom's Moon is in Aries, daddy's in Gemini... My mother hates his "I don't know, you decide" thing...

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I can see you posted a list of names, but no aspects or positions of the Moons; also, you didn't post the hard aspect couples for comparison.


LeeLoo, why would I post the hard (square) aspect couples for comparison? You are the one insisting they are numerous rather than rare so then that is your job to post them to see if they stack up. The couples I posted all have their moons in compatible signs (trine, sextile or same sign) which is definite because either a birth time is listed on Astrotheme with their name OR if you put in the generic time of 12:00PM with their date of birth you get a moon sign of between 7 and 18 degrees which means the moon did not change signs on their date of birth. The ones that are disputable because the moon sign is listed at 2° or 26° when you use a generic birthtime were explained as such. So, for example, as you yourself stated, David Bowie's moon sign is definitely Leo which we know because we have his moon time. Iman's is absolutely Libra because even if you put in noon, which is the midway point during the day, we get 17 degrees which means the entire day the moon was in Libra. We don't know if it's an exact aspect, though. Same goes for the others. Tiffani Thiessen, for example, definitely has moon in Aquarius no matter what time she was born on January 23rd, 1974, and her husband Brady Smith definitely has his moon in Gemini because the moon did not change signs on December 29th, 1971 when he was born. Armie Hammer has a definite Gemini moon and his wife Elizabeth has a definite Leo moon because the moons did not change signs on those days. You can imply that I'm lying or you can verify every single one of my examples for yourself. You also count couples like Catherine Z and Michael Douglas as a square when their moons are in sextile by sign. The fact is that I have made my point and we will just have to agree to disagree.

As for tone, you came into this thread laughing that I had "left the boat" as a way of declaring your victory or whatever so don't be a hypocrite now just because you have been proven wrong. In both cases (that thread AND this one), you are the one who started with ME. You yourself stated that you have an agenda to prove that there are no bad aspects; I disagree and my research does, too.

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posted July 02, 2015 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquacheeka, I don't think you've made any points here, at least not to me, since you haven't even understood my messages. I meant Bennifer left the boat, they were on my list, not you. Also, you don't seem to know or understand minimal facts about statistics. You are too busy posting personal insults and attacks.

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posted July 02, 2015 10:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Aquacheeka, I don't think you've made any points here, at least not to me, since you haven't even understood my messages. I meant Bennifer left the boat, they were on my list, not you. Also, you don't seem to know or understand minimal facts about statistics. You are too busy posting personal insults.


You keep saying you have "statistics" but I've still posted more examples proving MY statistics than you have! . And I could keep going, too!

Bottom line: majority of lasting celeb couples have moons in compatible signs. As I said on the other thread, usually when a couple has incompatible moons, usually the semi-sextile and rarely the square (two examples are Kristin Kreuk and Mark Hildreth, and Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick), they are also up to their eyeballs in Saturn. A couple with compatible moons can probably get away with only one Saturn.

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posted July 02, 2015 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
You keep saying you have "statistics" but I've still posted more examples proving MY statistics than you have! . And I could keep going, too!

Bottom line: majority of lasting celeb couples have moons in compatible signs.


It's like being in kindergarten again.
I think Moon sq Moon is the least of your problems in interpersonal relationships.

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posted July 02, 2015 10:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

It's like being in kindergarten again.
I think Moon sq Moon is the least of your problems in interpersonal relationships.




I guess admitting that you may have been mistaken would have been too gracious. Better to insult the person than woman up and admit that you're wrong .

Still waiting patiently on more examples of your "statistics" by the way. I gave you all my examples of hard aspect (squared moons) couples in the other thread I linked to; there were only 3.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Moon in Virgo-Moon in Aquarius

I was very in love with someone a couple of years ago with Moon in Virgo (mine is in Aquarius, I'm also Sun in Virgo).

We didn't work out. There was some crucial element missing. He always said I would be a friend for a life but I cut all contact, he was like a drug and I had to save myself from the addiction.

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posted July 02, 2015 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the problem with moon-moon compatibility is its overly simplistic. Many of us have charts with sun square asc/dsc or sun and moon not in compatible signs. So someone else whose moo is not compatible with our moon would make nice aspect to our sun or asc or Dsc or 7th ruler or what have you. The person we attract always reflect the conflicting energies in our chart so having moon squares is hardly a problem.

I have said several times on here that I have Aries moon and my favorite moon position is Capricorn. That in fact does reflect the conflicting energy if my chart as well and hence I can't do cancer or libra moon because my Martian and Saturn energies are like cold water on their faces.

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They are hiring a mediator to divide their assets, because they broke the cardinal rule in Hollywood of not having a prenup. Ben is going to live on the same property as her in a new apartment being built, so he can be around their three children.

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posted July 02, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
*nod nod*

Explosive friction and grudging respect. But most of the time, it's fascination. The union is very beautiful and slightly chaotic.


I always connected quincunx with "fascination"

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Originally posted by Randall:
They are hiring a mediator to divide their assets, because they broke the cardinal rule in Hollywood of not having a prenup.


Oh, Lord. I have a feeling it will soon get ugly :s... I hope I am wrong.

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Originally posted by Randall:
They are hiring a mediator to divide their assets, because they broke the cardinal rule in Hollywood of not having a prenup. Ben is going to live on the same property as her in a new apartment being built, so he can be around their three children.

Their synastry has "friendship/family" and intellectual connection as the building block, so no wonder. They are a family together and probably will remain so, one way or another.

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posted July 03, 2015 05:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regis and Joy Philbin - Aquarius moon and Aries moon

Bo Derek and John Corbett (together since 2002) - Pisces and Cancer moon

Sissy Spacek and Jack Fisk (together since 1977) - Pisces and Scorpio moon

Rob Lowe (Taurus) and Sheryl Berkoff (Virgo) together since 1990

Zoe Saldana (Sag) & Marco Perego (Aries)


I'm gonna hit that 30-40 I promised you, LeeLoo So far I'm at 24 confirmed but as I remember more I'll post them.

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posted July 03, 2015 11:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anna Kournikova has her moon in Leo; Enrique's is in Aries. They've been together since 2001 and have no discernible Saturn contacts between them.

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posted July 03, 2015 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 03, 2015 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
With the Venus/Jupiter conj right on comp IC! how about that? What could it mean? Acknowledging love is lost and wanting the real, big one?


Many times people get divorced when TR Jupiter enters their 7th house of partnership. One would think that Jupiter transiting that house would enhance the marriage but just opposite - the divorce gets final. I guess Jupiter makes them realize life can be so much better without their already failed marriage/partnership.
Maybe same applies for Jupiter on IC, when some people decide its time to move from a broken home

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posted July 03, 2015 07:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forest and Keisha Whitaker - together since 1996 - his moon in Leo, hers in Sag. Only disernible Saturn contact is a trine to Pluto.

Moon sign compatibility is powerful stuff.

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