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Aquacheeka
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posted July 06, 2015 07:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh I wouldnīt say they WILL reconcile necessarily (I would not rule it totally out either though).

Their progressed synastry seems to support Westrans theory of the squares between Venus and Sun in progression as keeping people apart from each other (only generally speaking, of course there are separations happening without that square and others get together with such a square)


They seem to want to do the separation truely amicably though, and with all the Jupiter in play they might maybe even have a chance at that.

And I think they will of course always be somehow connected to each other, because they have kids,


VERY interesting timing indeed.

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posted July 06, 2015 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is one awesome thing I have noticed again and again and I think deserves a separate topic: reaction to your DSC planet. It is valid for me too. I have Saturn conj DSC, and I always have hard Saturn transits/progressions when forming/dissolving a couple.
Jupiter being his DSC planet, his love/marital life should move according to Jupiter cycles.

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posted July 06, 2015 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are such a hypocrite.

quite insulting. Is this the tone on here?

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posted July 06, 2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That is one awesome thing I have noticed again and again and I think deserves a separate topic: reaction to your DSC planet. It is valid for me too. I have Saturn conj DSC, and I always have hard Saturn transits/progressions when forming/dissolving a couple.
Jupiter being his DSC planet, his love/marital life should move according to Jupiter cycles.


it`s intresting you point that out, Mr Sag has his Saturn exact on DESC as well, and when he broke up with his long term girlfriend it was when

Tr Saturn conjunct his sa DESC
Tr Saturn squaring his n Venus-Juno-opposition (Venus being ruler of his intercepted 7th house)

Also Tr Saturn
squrae his n Sun-Moon-MC
Tr saturn conjunct his sa Saturn
(so he was having his Shadow-Saturn-REturn interesting.)


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posted July 06, 2015 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are they on a holiday in the Bahamas now? Was that just a rumour?

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posted July 06, 2015 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I donīt know. I just read that and thought ifit is true, it is unusual.

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posted July 06, 2015 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have become more inclined to see moom-moon compatibility as a huge factor in long lasting relationships.

But I did find some famous long lived couples that don't have moon compatibility: Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell. Unless you count semi-sexxtiles as compatible.

IRL i know plenty of couples that have been together for almost 20 years, and when I checked they didn't have compatible moons. So I think it all depends on how important the moon is in the chart.

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posted July 06, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Regis and Joy Philbin - Aquarius moon and Aries moon

Bo Derek and John Corbett (together since 2002) - Pisces and Cancer moon

Sissy Spacek and Jack Fisk (together since 1977) - Pisces and Scorpio moon

Rob Lowe (Taurus) and Sheryl Berkoff (Virgo) together since 1990

Zoe Saldana (Sag) & Marco Perego (Aries)


I'm gonna hit that 30-40 I promised you, LeeLoo So far I'm at 24 confirmed but as I remember more I'll post them.


So compatibility by sign is enough?

Do you think Libra moon and Taurus Moon are compatible? After all, they are both ruled by Venus...

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So compatibility by sign is enough?

Do you think Libra moon and Taurus Moon are compatible? After all, they are both ruled by Venus...



I think a few different things can make up for lack of direct moon sign compatibility. Strong Saturn ties is one of these. For example, Kristin Kreuk is a Cancer moon and her partner of 11 years is a Leo moon. Together, they have Saturn square sun, Venus AND Mars in synastry, as well as Saturn-Jupiter and other minor aspects.
If we look at Kevin Bacon and his wife Kyra, he has an Aries moon and hers is Taurus. However, they have sun trine Saturn double-whammy, Venus square Saturn, Saturn-Jupiter (but really when does this aspect NOT come up in synastry? lol)... again, a lot more Saturn than usual.

Goldie and Kurt between the two of them have Sun-Saturn double-whammy (sextile and the trine), Saturn square Venus, and again Saturn-Jupiter as well.


So I definitely don't think there is a such thing as a single dealbreaker aspect in synastry. I think there are lots of ways a disappointing contact can be "redeemed" so to speak. I've seen lots of celeb couples where the Saturn was weak (only aspecting Jupiter or Mercury or generational planets but not personal planets), but they had sun-Venus - that seems to come up a lot in happy couples and I think that should be looked into a lot more.

Taurus and Libra do share the Venusian quality so it's possible they will find common ground too. If I can find a celeb couple with this specific combo I will be sure to post it

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posted July 07, 2015 11:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fighting the urge to add a bunch more couples to this thread I just can't believe I forgot Johnny Cash and Brody Dalle and Jessica Alba - I love those people!

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posted July 07, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 07, 2015 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

I think a few different things can make up for lack of direct moon sign compatibility. Strong Saturn ties is one of these. For example, Kristin Kreuk is a Cancer moon and her partner of 11 years is a Leo moon. Together, they have Saturn square sun, Venus AND Mars in synastry, as well as Saturn-Jupiter and other minor aspects.
If we look at Kevin Bacon and his wife Kyra, he has an Aries moon and hers is Taurus. However, they have sun trine Saturn double-whammy, Venus square Saturn, Saturn-Jupiter (but really when does this aspect NOT come up in synastry? lol)... again, a lot more Saturn than usual.

Goldie and Kurt between the two of them have Sun-Saturn double-whammy (sextile and the trine), Saturn square Venus, and again Saturn-Jupiter as well.


So I definitely don't think there is a such thing as a single dealbreaker aspect in synastry. I think there are lots of ways a disappointing contact can be "redeemed" so to speak. I've seen lots of celeb couples where the Saturn was weak (only aspecting Jupiter or Mercury or generational planets but not personal planets), but they had sun-Venus - that seems to come up a lot in happy couples and I think that should be looked into a lot more.

Taurus and Libra do share the Venusian quality so it's possible they will find common ground too. If I can find a celeb couple with this specific combo I will be sure to post it


Thanks for the breakdown on those couples. It helps.

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I think it depends on your natal moon, how important you will find moon compatibility. To me, sun-moon, moon-Venus compatibility never really felt like it was "enough" for me. But thatprobbsly has to do with my own moon in my natal, it is very important to me. To some people, moon-moon compatibility overshadows others. To you, it probably doesn't so you don't see the hullabaloo about all this moon business. I also think that water moon people in general have an extra strong moon. Same with fire sun people Need extra emphasis on the sun while other element Suns might not,


Only problem with that is that half of these couples have air and fire moons. Like Alba and Cash Warren, together since 2004 (Aquarius/Gem), Brody Dalle and Josh Homme, also together since 2004 (Aquarius/Gem), Garret Dillahunt and Michelle Hurd, together since 1994 (Leo/Aries), Mark Ronson and his wife Josephine (Leo/Aries), Billie Joe Armstrong, together with his wife since 1990 (Aries and Leo). So I don't think that matters all that much. I think what it comes down to is genuine happiness. Celebs don't have to stay for practical reasons or lack of options, so the only reason they would is that they feel truly understood and happy at their core.

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Robert Downey Jr. and his wife have been together since August 2003 and are a Taurus moon/Pisces moon combo . This makes me happy inside for obvious reasons


Belage, Vanessa and Kobe Bryant are a Libra/Taurus moon combo and they've been together since 1999 (yes, with some bumps in the road but still). So there you go They have Venus AND Mars conjunct Saturn. Actually, Saturn is their dominant planet in synastry (Saturn also squares their Pluto, Jupiter, Uranus and Mercury). So more proof that incompatible moons don't necessarily have to be a dealbreaker or mean divorce... I think that compatible moons can act as a sort of glue in the absence of Saturn. And same goes for Venus-Sun. So maybe absence of Saturn ties in synastry shouldn't be looked at as a dealbreaker as astrologers often do, either.

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posted July 08, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Points well taken, AquaCheeka.

We can also agree that just because a marriage lasts doesn't mean that both or one of the partners are happy. People can stay together for a variety of practical reasons, which might work for Saturnian types but not so well for others. It would seem that if one wants a long lasting marriage, AND also one that is happy, it would be best to have both compatible moon, and Saturn glue.

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posted July 09, 2015 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone else is following this story - it has Cancer written all over it (their mutual AC).
"We're getting a divorce but we're going to continue living together, vacationing together and moving around together when one person is shooting a film)."

Their fire Sun signs are ready for independence, while their Cancer risings are clinging on for dear life.

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We can also agree that just because a marriage lasts doesn't mean that both or one of the partners are happy. People can stay together for a variety of practical reasons, which might work for Saturnian types but not so well for others. It would seem that if one wants a long lasting marriage, AND also one that is happy, it would be best to have both compatible moon, and Saturn glue.


Agree 100%.

I do sometimes tend to take longevity to always mean happiness... not the case necessarily.

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If anyone else is following this story - it has Cancer written all over it (their mutual AC).
"We're getting a divorce but we're going to continue living together, vacationing together and moving around together when one person is shooting a film)."

Their fire Sun signs are ready for independence, while their Cancer risings are clinging on for dear life.



Very interesting! That seems to be the Hollywood trend nowadays... Gwyn and Chris Martin are co-parenting in the same house, too. Very odd!

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posted July 09, 2015 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Celebs don't have to stay for practical reasons or lack of options

Unless they're naive enough not to get a prenup or care too much about their "perfect family" image or want to keep going for the sake of the children.

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posted July 09, 2015 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has everyone heard yet? They're saying he cheated a lot.
http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1088846/ben-affleck-cheating-rumors

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posted July 10, 2015 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Very interesting! That seems to be the Hollywood trend nowadays... Gwyn and Chris Martin are co-parenting in the same house, too. Very odd!

Yeah... I mean they have huge homes, with plenty of space to go around I guess. But it's still awkward :/

Btw they're also wearing their wedding rings again.
This is the worst divorce attempt ever!

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posted July 10, 2015 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Has everyone heard yet? They're saying he cheated a lot.
http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1088846/ben-affleck-cheating-rumors


I'm not really sure what to make of the cheating rumours... because you'd expect the media to speculate and blame him (considering his alcoholic/sexoholic past).

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Yeah... I mean they have huge homes, with plenty of space to go around I guess. But it's still awkward :/

Btw they're also wearing their wedding rings again.
This is the worst divorce attempt ever!



I'm not sure I believe that they're back together just yet... the same rumours swirled about Gwyn and Chris immediately after the announcement. I'm sure, though, that there are going to be a few false starts regardless. I think that's normal... it can't be easy to walk away from ten years of marriage.

I hope the rumours of him cheating aren't true. For some reason I don't believe that they are. Maybe because no women have ever come forward or actual pictures of him with a woman acting inappropriately have been published like with Matthew Broderick and Ashton Kutcher and Tiger Woods.

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posted July 12, 2015 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In keeping with the moon compatibility topic, I just checked and LeAnn Rimes and Eddie Cibrian have their moon conjunct on his North Node. That explains a lot, doesn't it? Both left their marriages to be with each other.

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In keeping with the moon compatibility topic, I just checked and LeAnn Rimes and Eddie Cibrian have their moon conjunct on his North Node. That explains a lot, doesn't it? Both left their marriages to be with each other.

Wow! That DOES explain a lot. The wreckage created in the wake was very sad for all parties involved, however. Also sad was the marital breakdown of Courtney Cox and David Arquette. David is a possible (likely) Taurus moon and Courtney is a Virgo moon. He did not want the divorce and fought it and I believe were it not for his heavy drinking they would still be together. However, his current wife whom he just married this year has a Capricorn moon which blends nicely with his moon... I have hope that this marriage will be lasting for him and glad that he's found happiness again.

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