posted July 01, 2015 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's just so right! many quincunxes, sesquis, semisextiles or adjacent signs.
You can see this in the few examples I posted, about 25, I think.
In fact, absolutely all Moon combinations are present.

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Yes. I myself am not drawn to Aquarius or Sagittarius Moons romantically. No!!!

But I can testify that there are many Cancer/Aquarius Moon sign couples I have met.

posted July 01, 2015 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
I know another couple with Cancer Dsc . They are on the verge of divorce too.

The thing is you can never end things on too good terms with a Scorpio moon.

But if Jen Garber doesn't cheat, I think they'd be ok. So far they don't have problems with dividing up properties... An ariescwould be straightforward enough to not push things too far

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Pluto is a slow moving planet.

I assure you when I say that the party has barely started. Let's wait and see

posted July 01, 2015 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
Aries23Degrees, and Leo Moon with Scorpio Moon? I have this with an ex... I really can't stand for such an emotional moon (I mean, deep emotions that won't arise easily); BTW I want to party all night long!! Hahaha!

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With square aspects, its always the thing that attracted you two that tears you apart.

I think it has a similar vibe to the opposition. Although with the former, things can go so bad that they can never be repaired.

posted July 01, 2015 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Pluto is a slow moving planet.

I assure you when I say that the party has barely started. Let's wait and see

And what you said about Scorpio Moon? Oh boy I will start a thread on that soon.

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posted July 01, 2015 02:39 PM            

My brother has a Sag-Moon (cojunct Jupiter and Uranus)
his girlfriend has a Virgo-moon (opposing Sun).

They have been together for 10 years now and living together since at least 5 years or so.

(He is younger than me so they are both at the beginning of their 30`s).

Of course noone knows how long they will be a couple. Maybe forever, maybe not.
Nevertheless I think their 10 years were pretty successful already.
(personally I think 10 years are a pretty long time)

posted July 01, 2015 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I usually see compatible Moons, too, in long lasting relationship, however there is an example against that "rule" (it is not really a rule) in my own family.

My brother has a Sag-Moon (cojunct Jupiter and Uranus)
his girlfriend has a Virgo-moon (opposing Sun).

They have been together for 10 years now and living together since at least 5 years or so.

(He is younger than me so they are both at the beginning of their 30`s).

Of course noone knows how long they will be a couple. Maybe forever, maybe not.
Nevertheless I think their 10 years were pretty successful already.
(personally I think 10 years are a pretty long time)

In their case however the fact that her Sun is conjunct his ASC and her MOon conjunct his DESC might give them more of a connection.

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Which makes me think of other interesting things to check to explain a more "bizarre" compatibility:

- Moon conjunct an angle makes for strong support, emotional understanding and compatibility; stimulating and providing for the other's needs (especially when it comes to that angle)

- aspects to IC, 5th ruler, and between 5th ruler and IC ruler.

- aspect or resonance between Moon dispositors

- aspect between IC rulers, and IC ruler with Moon and/or Sun

Generally, the Sun/Moon connection prevails though, there will be a resonance between Sun and Moon in the charts.

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posted July 01, 2015 03:19 PM            

however
they also have other interesting layers:

he has Moon in Scorpio conj ASC tightly, which gives it an Aries (fire) flavor.

she has a 7th house Moon, and Pluto, his Moon disp, conj her DSC - a 7th house connection
also, he has Moon sextile Venus, and she is a 7th house Moon

just at first glance

I think this is how it may work, to understand Moon compatibility, rather than a direct and soft aspect. (which of course, is very nice to have, like any direct aspect between Moons)

EDIT: and her Moon/Pluto conj his MC in Leo, not very tight, but it's there, in the 10th, I forgot to mention this important fact
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AstroMandala

posted July 01, 2015 05:19 PM              

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
With square aspects, its always the thing that attracted you two that tears you apart.

I think it has a similar vibe to the opposition. Although with the former, things can go so bad that they can never be repaired.

With the latter(opposition),the possibility of a reconciliation is always there. These people find it hard to just completely get rid of each other.

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Agree with this. Some people cannot accept that attraction doesn't necessarily mean long-term happiness or compatibility. Just because a certain aspect is common in initial attractions like with moons that are squared by sign doesn't mean that the couple is happy or going to last. Knowing what I know now, it makes perfect sense why Prince Charles left the younger, beautiful Cancer Princess Diana for the older, divorced Cancer Camilla. Diana was Aqua moon; Camilla is Cancer moon. Charles' moon is Taurus.

Depends on your willingness to live a lie indefinitely.

posted July 01, 2015 05:23 PM            

interesting list, and I agree with the multilayeredness. also tracing dispositors can be very enlightening (though I never know if I should use the tradition aro new ones. Uranus or saturn for my Moon?)

For my brother and his girlfriend:

"Moon conjunct an angle"
Her Moon on his DESC under one degree

"- aspects to IC, 5th ruler, and between 5th ruler and IC ruler."
his IC 28 Gemini and his IC-ruler 28 Aquarius already make me think of the importance of *something* on about 28 degrees of almost any sign.

her Sun on 26 Pisces squares his IC
her Mars on 26 Scorpio quares his IC-ruler
doesn`t lok easy I know.

Mars is her chartruler, SUn rules her 5th house.

her IC on 10 Cancer, IC-ruler brings us b ack to Moon of course. lol
Nothing outstanding from my brother`s chart. However he has Venus on 7 Aries and Mars on 13 Aries, which means that her IC is pretty much triggering his Venus/Mars-mp.

his 5th house ruler is Moon, it conjuncts her Uranus-SN-conjunction.

"- aspect or resonance between Moon dispositors"

His Moon-dispositor is Jupiter in Sagittarius conjunct Moon and Uranus.
her Moon-dispositor is Mercury in Aries square Jupiter-Neptune.

Well their Moon-dispositors are of course compatible, both in a fire sign.
they are widely trine by 5 degrees, too.

her Moon-dispositor also conjuncts his Mars within 2 degrees (which rules his intercepted Aries in 1st house). and trine his Uranus by 4 degrees

his Moon-dispositor conjuncts her Uranus-SN

( a lot of URanus mentioning right there.

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- aspect between IC rulers, and IC ruler with Moon and/or Sun"

no aspect between IC rulers.

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This made me curious about Mr Sag and me in light of that list.

his Moon conjunct my Sun

- Moon conjunct an angle
no.

"- aspects to IC, 5th ruler, and between 5th ruler and IC ruler."
my Sun opposes his IC
my Sun conjuncts his 5th ruler

" aspect or resonance between Moon dispositors"
his Moon-dispositor is Jupiter in VIrgo, conjunct Mars
my Moon-dispositor is either Uranus in Scorpio or saturn in Cancer.
No aspects though.

"- aspect between IC rulers, and IC ruler with Moon and/or Sun"
his IC ruler conjunct my IC-ruler with 4 degrees

Waht I also find interesting is how in the light of his MOon conjunct my Sun, the dispositor of his Moon is on 10 Virgo and the dispositor of my Sun is on 11 Pisces.

So while there is a conjuntion present, the dispositors are opposing each other.

Sorry if that derails the thread too much, but I found your list check-worthy.

posted July 01, 2015 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
With the Venus/Jupiter conj right on comp IC! how about that? What could it mean? Acknowledging love is lost and wanting the real, big one?

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posted July 01, 2015 06:05 PM            

That opposition is a very nice touch,

It's funny that my synastry with PM is very similar to my parents' At least in this respect. I haven't checked all my list yet (lately, of course as in the last month?? hahaha), for my synastry, but the thing that stands out already:

My Moon in Leo 7th, his Moon in Scorpio 2nd

my dispositor Sun in Virgo 8th (connects with his Scorpio/Taurus symbolism) in exact quindecile with his Pluto.

but the most interesting part: his Pluto in the 1st house Libra.

His Pluto connects with my 7th house Moon (through Libra) (also trine Venus for him) and being in 1st, it has the same Aries energy connecting with my Leo. Which is a replica of my parents' 7th house/fire connection through dispositors...which is weird hahaha but fun!

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posted July 01, 2015 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:

Freedom.

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posted July 01, 2015 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
They lasted ten years and are still friends. A decade is a long time. Isn't that a successful marriage?

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yes

posted July 02, 2015 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Agree with this. Some people cannot accept that attraction doesn't necessarily mean long-term happiness or compatibility. Just because a certain aspect is common in initial attractions like with moons that are squared by sign doesn't mean that the couple is happy or going to last. Knowing what I know now, it makes perfect sense why Prince Charles left the younger, beautiful Cancer Princess Diana for the older, divorced Cancer Camilla. Diana was Aqua moon; Camilla is Cancer moon. Charles' moon is Taurus.

Depends on your willingness to live a lie indefinitely.

However, if for example, one person's iincompatible moon sign is in the same symbolic house as the other person's moon sign (like person A has Sag moon and person B has Taurus moon, but the Sag moon person has their moon in the 2nd house), they may be able to find enough common ground. I guess that wasn't the case here.

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Is this true though?

I for instance have Moon in 3rd and find lunar Gemini's ANNOYING.

posted July 02, 2015 05:09 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There we go with the Moons again There's no rule for Moon/Moon aspects in long term synastries. All and none of them are present.

What matters is Sun/Moon and similarity/complementarity between Moon symbolism - Moon in combination Moon/Sun.
Moon/Sun compatibility is the number one key, Moon/Sun aspects/symbolism are in an overwhelming number of such relationships.

Compatible Moons means, for instance: X has Sun in Aries y has Moon in Sag + y has Sun in Virgo and x Moon in Taurus in the same chart, there's your compatible Moons. With Moon/Sun direct aspect between those, here's your "the one and only"!

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on a strict Moon/Moon level, as an
example: Moon in Gemini square Saturn compatible with Capricorn Moon in the 3rd or Mutable Moon in the 10th.

But without Sun/Moon yin/yang symbolism, there's no real Moon/Moon either.

We have recently discussed this here, and I offered some examples. You can see from the list the so called compatible Moons rule (trine, conjunction, sextile) doesn't apply
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000401.html

Unfortunately it seems someone left the boat in the meantime

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It's not about "leaving the boat" Leeloo. As you can see in this thread here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222767.html this is something I first started looking into YEARS AGO when I was still with my ex to reassure myself that it could work. It is easier for me to find examples of where the moon signs are NOT compatible than when they ARE because in the vast majority of celebrity couples they ARE COMPATIBLE. I was looking for the examples of where they were NOT so that I could prove to myself that we would make it... we didn't, by the way. Off the top of my head? Examples of celeb couples that share compatible moons are Armie Hammer and Elizabeth Chambers, Kaley Cuoco and Ryan Sweeting, Robert Smith and Mary Poole (together since age 14), Justin Theroux and Jennifer Aniston, Ellen Degeneres and Portia De Rossi, Iman and David Bowie, John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Will Smith and Jada Pinket Smith, Tamera Mowry and Adam Housley, Rebecca Romijn and Jerry O'Connell, Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Bryan Hallisay, Tina Turner and Erwin Bach, Faith Hill and Tim McGraw, Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks, Ben Stiller and Christine Taylor, Ted Dansen and Mary Steenburgen, Tiffani Amber-Thiessen and Brady Smith, and Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Brad Hall. Ones that are LIKELY in the same element but just can't be 100% sure since the moon DID change signs on the day they were born are Josh Duhamel and Fergie, Mark Consuelos and Kelly Ripa, Jon Bon Jovi and his wife Dorothea, Patrick Swayze and Lisa Niemi, Sting and Trudie Styler...

posted July 02, 2015 05:28 AM            

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Everyone Thinks Love Is Truly Dead Now That Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner Have Split

...10 years of Ben and Jen and suddenly, it's dunzo! How does one take this news? How does one react without completely curling up into the fetal position while holding your Jen Loves Ben mug?

Simple. You accept that love is now dead and you will never believe in anything magical ever again.*

(*this according to people on Twitter right now)...

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posted July 02, 2015 06:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
even if literally no other astrologers share that view .

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Which is not true. I am sure there are several astrologers who share that view. JUst like there are those that don`t.

Ebertin for example would have stressed that the 4th and 8th harmonic aspects simply indicate that there is a strong connection, and something`s happening, but if that is positive or negative depends on the planets involved. If two Moons and no Saturn or Neptune attached to them, he would have interpreted that as a sign of a strong emotional connection.

The italian astrologer Ciro Discepolo also stresses the importance of the 4th harmonic aspects in his book "evaluate your synastry", John Yale emphasises the importance of the 4th harmonic aspects as well.

While that doesn`t mean they are right (or wrong), those astrologers certainly would agree with the importance of the square in making a strong connection.

posted July 02, 2015 06:07 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Which is not true. I am sure there are several astrologers who share that view. JUst like there are those that don`t.

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I suggested in the thread she linked to that she Google "moon signs lasting relationship" or "moon signs compatible" or any such variation specifically because I've never seen so much consensus among astrologers on any single issue in astrology. She is literally the only astrologer I have ever seen prescribe hard moon aspects as a good thing, anywhere on the internet. When she came at me and said they're a good thing I was literally shocked. And her list that is supposed to prove her point actually proves mine instead.

posted July 02, 2015 06:27 AM            

All that compatible Moon signs do is, ensuring an emotional harmony and flow, which admittedly feels very nice and is what people strive for (and personally I love compatible Moons, especially Sagittarius and Aries - Moons), but some Moons might actually enjoy a little bit more friction.

That does not mean that it is a good thing having squared moons, not by default, but it can be, depending on the circumstances.

posted July 02, 2015 06:35 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Personally I think though that this is dependent on the natal charts and how much tension the Moons can deal with.
Compatible Moon signs are pretty nice to ensure a smooth emotional flow, and yes, compatibility and harmony, at least in my own experience.
However if that is always a good thing, I am not sure.
(if you agree on that it si a good idea to sit down behind the wheel of your car, while being very drunk, it might actually be a better thing to have an incompatible friend, who snags away your car-keyes, until you can think straight again).

All that compatible Moon signs do is, ensuring an emotional harmony and flow, which admittedly feels very nice and is what people strive for (and personally I love compatible Moons, especially Sagittarius and Aries - Moons), but some Moons might actually enjoy a little bit more friction.

That does not mean that it is a good thing having squared moons, not by default, but it can be, depending on the circumstances.

But yes, all in all, I prefer compatible Moons nevertheless. Especially in terms of the Moons, (just as I enjoy a bit of friction between Yin-Yang, oftentimes, and even the masculine planets Sun and Mars, can deal quite well with squares, but I guess it is closer to their archetypical nature, while Moon as feminine symbol might strive more for harmony and agreement to find comfort. Though I wonder if a masculine Moon might be more adapting to very different Moon-signs).

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I think that is a very fair assessment. And I do have to admit that there were more couples with opposed moon signs - especially Cancer and Capricorn - than I would expect at first glance so maybe that balance can really be achieved with the opposition. It was very rare with the square though. Very rare. I remember the disappointment I felt the first time I realized that... because I was about to move in with a moon square.

posted July 02, 2015 06:56 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

But yes, all in all, I prefer compatible Moons nevertheless. Especially in terms of the Moons, (just as I enjoy a bit of friction between Yin-Yang, oftentimes, and even the masculine planets Sun and Mars, can deal quite well with squares, but I guess it is closer to their archetypical nature, while Moon as feminine symbol might strive more for harmony and agreement to find comfort. Though I wonder if a masculine Moon might be more adapting to very different Moon-signs).

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